iPhone 6: size comparison with Android phones

[Vegastouch]

In my opinion sd card are a thing of the past ... and Google have the same idea, considering the poor support they gave to sd cards in Android..

Been hearing that for a couple years now yet they still have revelence and id still love to have it for extra storage space at a minimul cost.

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Well then put your photos on the internal memory if you are going to complain about the loading screen of the thumbnails. I find that it is fine after the thumbnails have been cached for the first time, but I believe my gallery app is different than stock samsung.

You will never convince me that the option to put photos on the sd card, therefor having slower gallery app... , is a negative.

Its actually better. If you ever switch phones your gallery goes with you on the SD card (provided the next phone has a SD slot) without having to bluetooth them over or use another method.

 

[buckZor]

..conversely, Apple has a legitimate retail business and isn't SELLING every #%^$ thing they can learn about you. Got data mining?

 

[Lloydbm41]

..conversely, Apple has a legitimate retail business and isn't SELLING every #%^$ thing they can learn about you. Got data mining?

True, Apple isn't selling everything they can about you. Just SOME of your info. Is this better than MOST of your info and less than PART of your info? Or should we consider it all bad?

If you think Apple is any less evil than Google, Microsoft, Cisco, Honeywell, IBM, etc... Corporations are inherently evil if you believe in any of the deadly sins, since greed is what makes corporations grow.

 

[kdarling]

..conversely, Apple has a legitimate retail business and isn't SELLING every #%^$ thing they can learn about you. Got data mining?

Apple markets its users to their iAds customers, just like any other ad network:



They use the info they've collected about us via iTunes etc (credit, address, sex, age, app and media preferences, etc) to sell ad slots:

 

[Max(IT)]

True, Apple isn't selling everything they can about you. Just SOME of your info. Is this better than MOST of your info and less than PART of your info? Or should we consider it all bad?

If you think Apple is any less evil than Google, Microsoft, Cisco, Honeywell, IBM, etc... Corporations are inherently evil if you believe in any of the deadly sins, since greed is what makes corporations grow.

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Apple surely is less evil than Google. What Google is doing whit our data is shameful in my opinion.

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Apple markets its users to their iAds customers, just like any other ad network:

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They use the info they've collected about us via iTunes etc (credit, address, sex, age, app and media preferences, etc) to sell ad slots:

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You are clever and you know better than me that what Apple is doing is not even comparable with Google, which is a company based on data mining in every single field.
But you still decided to defend it by trying to make Apple look the same. Interesting ...

 

[T'hain Esh Kelch]

Apple surely is less evil than Google. What Google is doing whit our data is shameful in my opinion.

Such as?

 

[Max(IT)]

Such as?

http://www.neontommy.com/news/2013/...e-european-governments-violating-privacy-laws
http://www.informationweek.com/google-condemned-for-click-fraud-settlement/d/d-id/1042688?
http://torrentfreak.com/google-condemned-by-uk-politicians-for-linking-to-piracy-130926/
http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2014/03/18/google-sued-for-data-mining-students-email/
http://royal.pingdom.com/2010/01/08/how-google-collects-data-about-you-and-the-internet/
http://www.salon.com/2014/02/05/4_w...ing_privacy_and_collecting_your_data_partner/
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/03/1...ays-fine-over-street-view-privacy-breach.html
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/tech...-targeted-ads-regulator-says/article16343346/

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I could go on for a while.
Google is all focused in data mining, and if you ignored that , you are just in denial ....

 

[MattyW]

Apple surely is less evil than Google. What Google is doing whit our data is shameful in my opinion.

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You are clever and you know better than me that what Apple is doing is not even comparable with Google, which is a company based on data mining in every single field.
But you still decided to defend it by trying to make Apple look the same. Interesting ...

That's just your opinion, you are not the moral compass of the world. Google offers all their services for free {or almost all} in exchange they data mine you so that they can sell you targeted adds, to most people this would seem to have higher value than their privacy.

Apple have very few cross platform services {software wise} so they can make all their money on hardware and give you services like Apple maps, iCloud exct. for free {which they also data mine mind you}, Google on the other hand offer all their services on almost all platforms for no cost and in exchange they data mine you, both models seem to work well for their respective owners and it's not up to you which is more evil.

 

[vampyren]

Yeah, I don't get why people get that way over consumer goods, I guess just to make themselves feel better about the one they bought, but still, seems very childish.

Very true Its hard to say what is best as its very objective but as you say some people want to feel good about their purchase or brand.
Cant wait until mid next week when i get my Nokia 1520, been years i owned a nokia kinda feels nostalgic hehe

 

[Dave.UK]

http://www.neontommy.com/news/2013/...e-european-governments-violating-privacy-laws
http://www.informationweek.com/google-condemned-for-click-fraud-settlement/d/d-id/1042688?
http://torrentfreak.com/google-condemned-by-uk-politicians-for-linking-to-piracy-130926/
http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2014/03/18/google-sued-for-data-mining-students-email/
http://royal.pingdom.com/2010/01/08/how-google-collects-data-about-you-and-the-internet/
http://www.salon.com/2014/02/05/4_w...ing_privacy_and_collecting_your_data_partner/
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/03/1...ays-fine-over-street-view-privacy-breach.html
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/tech...-targeted-ads-regulator-says/article16343346/

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I could go on for a while.
Google is all focused in data mining, and if you ignored that , you are just in denial ....

Apple data mines as well. From their very own privacy policy:

Personal information is data that can be used to identify or contact a single person.

We also use personal information to help us create, develop, operate, deliver, and improve our products, services, content and advertising, and for loss prevention and anti-fraud purposes.

http://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/

 

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[Max(IT)]

Apple data mines as well. From their very own privacy policy:



http://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/

Nothing similar to what I've linked above ...
Advertising is very different from what Google is doing since its beginning.
You apologizers can repeat as many times you want, but that's not changing facts: Google MAIN business is our data mining.
Apple's main business is sell hardware and software.
Very different base.

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That's just your opinion, you are not the moral compass of the world. Google offers all their services for free {or almost all} in exchange they data mine you so that they can sell you targeted adds, to most people this would seem to have higher value than their privacy.

Apple have very few cross platform services {software wise} so they can make all their money on hardware and give you services like Apple maps, iCloud exct. for free {which they also data mine mind you}, Google on the other hand offer all their services on almost all platforms for no cost and in exchange they data mine you, both models seem to work well for their respective owners and it's not up to you which is more evil.

How can someone could be so blind just for the sake of defend his own beloved gadget is something that truly amaze me.
To justify what Google is doing because "they are giving you services of free" is plain silly.
Google exist only to stole data (yes, STOLE, because if you did read some of the links I've provided you could discover that several times users weren't aware of the data mining).
Apple is not a charity foundation, but its target is to sell hardware and software. Am I the only one that see a difference here ?

 

[appledes7]

You apologizers can repeat as many times you want, but that's not changing facts: Google MAIN business is our data mining.
Apple's main business is sell hardware and software.
Very different base.

You might as well give up. Having evidence to support your claim doesn't matter. Saying something positive about Apple and negative about Google just doesn't fly very well in this section of the forums.

 

[Dave.UK]

Nothing similar to what I've linked above ...
Advertising is very different from what Google is doing since its beginning.
You apologizers can repeat as many times you want, but that's not changing facts: Google MAIN business is our data mining.
Apple's main business is sell hardware and software.
Very different base.

Not in the slightest. Google are very upfront about the information they share.

http://www.google.com/policies/privacy/#nosharing

Infact, if you compare Apple and Googles privacy policy, they are pretty much the same.

Anyone can search online and find articles where companies have been data mining. Apparently Apple had been data mining peoples geo locations since 2008!
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2010/06/apple-location-privacy-iphone-ipad.html

 

[Fireblade]

That's just your opinion, you are not the moral compass of the world.

Yeah, but he is thinking he is...

 

[Max(IT)]

Not in the slightest. Google are very upfront about the information they share.

http://www.google.com/policies/privacy/#nosharing

Infact, if you compare Apple and Googles privacy policy, they are pretty much the same.

Anyone can search online and find articles where companies have been data mining. Apparently Apple had been data mining peoples geo locations since 2008!
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2010/06/apple-location-privacy-iphone-ipad.html

Nice try but OLD and inaccurate story ...
Apple has addressed this story a long time ago:

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2011/04/27Apple-Q-A-on-Location-Data.html

5. Can Apple locate me based on my geo-tagged Wi-Fi hotspot and cell tower data?
No. This data is sent to Apple in an anonymous and encrypted form. Apple cannot identify the source of this data.

But I know, I'm wasting my time: you Google apologizers aren't going to read anything as usual.
You didn't even read my links ....

Google is in hot water for scanning millions of students' email messages and allegedly building "surreptitious" profiles to target advertising at them.

According to Education Week, a "potentially explosive" lawsuit is wending its way through US federal court, now being heard in the US District Court for the Northern District of California.

In court filings, plaintiffs charge that Google data-mines Gmail users - a group that includes students who use the company's Apps for Education tool suite.



Google has been sued for data stolen at 12 years old kids ! Schools and institutions for educations. Well done.
And all of this A MONTH AFTER Bram Bout, the director of Google Apps for Education, said in a statement that the education suite's ads are turned off by default. A straight lie.


You can repeat it as many times you want to yourself, but facts remains facts: Google has been sued and condemned , by several countries , for DATA STOLED .
But you are going to forgive them, because, you know, they are going to give you a shining operative system and a lot of useful services. Yes, and the only reason they are giving you those "gifts" is to stole more data from you.
I find ridiculous that people like you are scandalized about NSA privacy violations (and they are working to PROTECT a country) but can accept so lightly that a private company is basically doing the same, because, you know, they are running the os on your beloved smartphone.

 

[gotluck]

Heh, the funny part is that I feel less violated having my gmail scanned by google than by the NSA. As long as whatever information they sell can't be used to steal my identity/ fraud, I don't really care. I realize they need value in exchange for the many services I use.

Hopefully everyone doesn't start using adblockers, but since I never see the ads they are mining my data for, there is a bit of ignorance is bliss for me

 

[MattyW]

How can someone could be so blind just for the sake of defend his own beloved gadget is something that truly amaze me.
To justify what Google is doing because "they are giving you services of free" is plain silly.
Google exist only to stole data (yes, STOLE, because if you did read some of the links I've provided you could discover that several times users weren't aware of the data mining).
Apple is not a charity foundation, but its target is to sell hardware and software. Am I the only one that see a difference here ?

As pointed out above Google's privacy policy is very readily and easily available, you are the one who seems to blind to see the truth. Personally I don't use Google {for search} I use DuckDuckGo precisely because I don't approve of Google's data mining but that doesn't make Google evil {except in your twisted reality}. As I said you are not the one who gets to decide what is evil and what isn't, you could disagree with Google's data mining policies but what you disagree with does not equal evil and you would have to accept Apple, Samsung, Microsoft and every other firm who has access to hordes of aggregated data is also data mining.

I feel Apple's profit margins are too high {40%} does that make them evil {Greed}?? Of course it doesn't all it means is that people are prepared to pay the prices Apple want, just as many billions of people are happy to give up certain sections of their privacy in exchange for Google's free services.

 

[maflynn]

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