iPhone 6: size comparison with Android phones

[BlingBling]

remember this infographic about how much screen real-estate compared to surrounding bezel space all the phones used and Apple came in last in most cases, shockingly only 54% of the 4 surface was the actual screen.

I really hope they keep those bezels down and have actual screen occupy more space even if it's not symmetrical.

It's one thing to make a bigger phone which everyone seems to rage about these days, another to make it space efficient and not add extra volume in your pocket you don't ever use.

I'm glad their also going with the round edges. The 4S really pissed me off after I switched from a 3G because it was harder the grasp and I kept dropping it cause my fingers tended to hold it by the edges and not the entire surface of the sides (which took more effort to grip without obscuring the screen). Round edges give you more surface area to hold the thing.

 

[Lloydbm41]

I have a Nexus 5 and I bought a 5s on launch day. I ended up keeping the Nexus 5 because I made money when I sold my 5s. But make no mistake, the 5s was without a doubt much smoother than my Nexus 5. Opening apps, scrolling, basic navigation, taking pictures, everything. Android still suffers from basic lag. And that previous post showing a nearly full second delay before Android did anything after being touched is what I see quite often. Never had that happen on my 5s.

My Nexus 5 and Moto X have not had this issue. Both are very, very smooth and lag free. My iPad, iPod and Nexus 7 on the other hand have given me lag. In the iPods case, up to 3 seconds of lag.

This can be debated until the cows come home and it won't make a damn bit of difference. IOS is not this amazing lag free os from another world. Its software and there will always be bugs if some sort. Why do you think Apple has put out 7 or 8 updates to iOS 7?

 

[Lava Lamp Freak]

My Nexus 5 and Moto X have not had this issue. Both are very, very smooth and lag free. My iPad, iPod and Nexus 7 on the other hand have given me lag. In the iPods case, up to 3 seconds of lag.

This can be debated until the cows come home and it won't make a damn bit of difference. IOS is not this amazing lag free os from another world. Its software and there will always be bugs if some sort. Why do you think Apple has put out 7 or 8 updates to iOS 7?

The iOS 7 update was horrible as far as speed and stability are concerned. The 7.1 update has been very nice. 7.0 was basically a public beta, in my opinion.

 

[strausd]

All my Android devices (Moto X, Nexus 5, 4, and 7) have shown noticeably more lag than any past iOS devices.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

One thing that struck me from the opening post with the phones side by side is the product design of the actual device. My perception with many of these devices is that you are paying for the screen and the internals primarily rather than a device that is aesthetically pleasing. With exception of the HTC and the iPhone, the others are rather bland in this department IMHO. Its this detail though that keeps them at a certain price point I would imagine. I know the appearance is very low down the list of priorities, it was just something that struck me when looking at them in that comparison.

 

[Technarchy]

All my Android devices (Moto X, Nexus 5, 4, and 7) have shown noticeably more lag than any past iOS devices.

Given the way both OS's work under the hood, this is probably going to be the case for awhile, made even worse by sloppy optimization and bloated skins featuring dubious features.

Though I will say the S5 holds it's own well against 5S. The user experience between the two is very close with only a couple of tweaks. No voided warranty needed.

Glance, Art, debloat silly features and carrier nonsense = smooth performance, solid UX.

 

[Max(IT)]

No you won't. And if you do, don't buy the new iPhone. Nobody is making you upgrade.


How do you know? Have you tried? Also the rumor is a 4.7" AND 5.5" iPhone 6. If it was that big a deal, you'd get the 4.7" model. You just sound like one these Apple people that just like to complain to complain w/o knowing what you're talking about.

Dude I've spent an huge amount of money in apps and in the Apple ecosystem, so they iPhone 6 should be the first choice ...
The 4.7" could be enough big to be uncomfortable for me ...

And before judge someone, you should know he: I'm an apple user since 1989. Maybe before you left the kindergarten ... maybe.
If I'm saying I'm afraid of this new iteration, it is because I'm afraid based on this rumors, not for the sake of complaining ....

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In your opinion is the best mate imo the best review are from people with similar usage or first hand experience; technical stuff are crap imo but I'm just a dba maybe that's why I don't care lol

Its not my opinion, it is general consensus ...
A tech site shouldn't consider similar usage, but should make objective technical analysis , and it is what Anand do.
You clearly didn't even read my link: the displays analysis they made was done with technical tools and it is absolutely objective. No personal tastes there.
They do very in depth reviews ... They discovered the reduced gamut of the Mini display compared to the Air ... They have no agenda

 

[mskill]

I really hope they're able is to achieve something close to this...

They can easily keep symmetry, iPhone's original size, Touch ID and just increase screen size with decreasing bezels, you'll get a much bigger screen size and able to use it with one hand with that:

 

[Technarchy]

I really hope they're able is to achieve something close to this...

All leaks point to this, which looks pretty slick to me.

 

[Max(IT)]

99% of the waffle spouted on here is opinionated rubbish passed off as facts.. when in Rome.....

Not at all ... I linked a review where facts are backed up by technical analysis ... Incidentally those analysis don't fit your tastes because Samsung told you need a 1080P or you are doomed

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From the article by Anandtech you linked to:

"Overall, I’m quite pleased with the display. The AMOLED display in the Galaxy S5 is finally equivalent to LCD displays in color accuracy and peak luminance, areas that LCD used to be the best in. Throw in the incredible contrast that AMOLED has always had and the ability to toggle between wide color gamut and accurate color, and I would say that AMOLED is finally equal, if not slightly better than LCD. With a few more iterations, I wouldn’t be surprised if I were to write that AMOLED is clearly superior to LCD."

And your point is ?
I said that overall s5 display is probably the best on the market, but iphone 's screen still is one of the best, actually the best in some regards.

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Displaymates shootout seems to be faulty as they seem to have recieved a Cherry picked pre-calibrated model from Samsung, no other review have been able to verify or get anywhere close to the measurements that Displaymate got on their model. Take a look at Anandtech's measurements for instance.


But that doesn't really relate to whatever you or I was saying now does it? I commented on the matter of higher PPI and pixel density, this is a point where Displaymate does not mention or claim the Galaxy S5 to be superior in any of their comparisons? They even list the PPI of the red and blue to be 343 instead of the proclaimed 441. And they also listed the iPhone 5 / 5S as the best display panel of the mobile industry before they tested the Galaxy S5 so it can't really be that bad, can it?

I have never claimed that AMOLED does not feature some great contrast, true dark black levels or anything. I simply commented on the fact that people seem to believe the Galaxy S4 and S5 to have such a higher PPI and a much more dense amount of pixels compared to the iPhone 5 / 5S when it clearly does not.

I didn't know about the calibrated unit sent to displaymate: do you have proofs or is it just your educated guess ?
I won't be surprised: typical of the Samsung 's marketing machine (think about the cheating on the benchmarks they did in the recent past).

BTW Galaxy S5 display is gorgeous indeed, I have nothing to debate about that. I'm just saying that Apple used a very high quality panel on its products that still is among the bests.

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because some people were talking about it:
one of the main reasons iOS devices are often smoother than android devices is that iOS stops rendering ANYTHING as soon as the screen is touched.

easy example? try loading a website with a lot of images. while some images have appeared and some have not, just touch the screen and scroll a little bit. as long as the finger is on the screen, the page will never continue to load and never finish to load.
android will continue to render the site even when you are scrolling

so yeah, android devices may need additional RAM to make up for that. my nexus 5 with 2 gb of ram however is not slower than an iphone 5s.

and to those saying that the galaxy s3 or s4 dont have a higher pixel density than a 5s: you are fighting over who comes in second or third. not that it actually matter after a certain PPI, but fighting about who has the larger invisible penis is fun, right?

Don't get me wrong: I agree with you. It is useless to debate about who has the higher PPI once you are above the 330-340 PPI on a smartphone.
I just can't stand anymore people trying to bash the iPhone based on the fact that Samsung 's marketing machine told them that without a 1080P display you are a loser. On a 4" display 1080P is a waste of pixels ....

 

[Max(IT)]

I have an N5, I've run stock, paranoid, and cataclysm ROM's; the N5 is not nearly as fast as the 5S at many tasks. And it is not as smooth. I'm sorry, it just isn't. I use them both side by side every single day and at some points in the day I get frustrated with my N5 and just pick up my 5S to perform the same task quickly and without stutter or lag. Of course disabling animations in developer options help but does not completely alleviate the lag (especially in the touch response input arena).

Additionally I've owned every iPhone as well as Every Nexus G1, N1, Nexus S, N4, and N5 (with the exception of the completely botched Galaxy Nexus) as well as a few HTC (older ones though, not the One series) so I'm definitely not speaking from a small sampling of Android devices when I say that I've never had an Android device that is as smooth as Android enthusiasts have often claimed. Never... Not with any amount of ROM flashing or Kernel flashing have I come close to the level of touch responsiveness and general speed of operation as the iPhone of that same generation.

I'm sharing your exact experience about that. And to add more, using also a WP device, I can say that even it is more smoothly, and it uses a slightly inferior hardware.
I'm perfectly happy with my Nexus 7, my next flagship could be a droid if Apple is going to disappoint me with the iPhone 6 pricing and design, but that doesn't change the facts.

 

[Rygaard]

Not true MattyW iOS is more stable...

If you had read the repport you are quoting you would know that it is intact telling the opposite of what you are quoting it for

Crash Rate for 7.1 is 1.6%
Crash Rate for Gingerbread is 1.7%

Here are the real quotes from the site:
Android: Gingerbread Apps Least Stable
Apple: iOS 7.1 Apps Most Stable

[http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1097982-state-of-mobile-performance.html#document/p2 : page 14 and page 15 ]

In fact recent studies have shown that iOS apps crash more consistently across almost all versions of iOS, the only exception being Gingerbread {4 years old} at 1.7% to iOS 7.1 at 1.6%, all other versions of android have fewer app crashes than iOS.

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Link: http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1097982-state-of-mobile-performance.html#document/p2

Most of the other stuff you wrote about android is also untrue

 

[Robster3]

All leaks point to this, which looks pretty slick to me.

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That's a bigger 5C

 

[Max(IT)]

Like there arn't thousands of videos on youtube depicting iphone lag {even new iphone's with iOS 7}.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZQC_W0c-C8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6fRMy0zHoI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY-KuPhC0Y0&t=2m37s

I use both android and iOS {android phone, ipad} and to pretend that android has a lag problem while iOS doesn't is disingenuous at best. You admit to not owning any iOS products currently maybe that's why you feel that the lag is so bad on android, I can however say in my experience {owning both} they both suffer from lag through it's so minor in both OSes these days it's barely noticeable {to me}. Thinking back to early android's {Wow they were awful} and the iphone 3GS {after iOS 5} now that was lag.

You are right about animations that makes iOS 7 feel more laggy than previous versions.
But we are speaking about a different kind of lags and stuttering which is embedded in Android.
Don't get me wrong, it isn't something I can't accept. I still love vanilla KitKat and I think Google is going in the right direction.

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All leaks point to this, which looks pretty slick to me.

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To be honest I like it very much, bit I'd like to see it compared to other phones to judge dimensions.

 

[Brittany246]

I wish they would have kept the 3:2 aspect ratio and just made the phone bigger.

 

[Technarchy]

I wish they would have kept the 3:2 aspect ratio and just made the phone bigger.

There is a reason the narrow profile is the only profile among smart phones. 3:2 would be unwieldy at these bigger sizes.

 

[bnmcj1]

I have looked at again. I must say that it is amazing how much bezel Apple can put into a phone. Impressive. Bezel in 2014.

 

[MrX8503]

remember this infographic about how much screen real-estate compared to surrounding bezel space all the phones used and Apple came in last in most cases, shockingly only 54% of the 4 surface was the actual screen.

I really hope they keep those bezels down and have actual screen occupy more space even if it's not symmetrical.

It's one thing to make a bigger phone which everyone seems to rage about these days, another to make it space efficient and not add extra volume in your pocket you don't ever use.

I'm glad their also going with the round edges. The 4S really pissed me off after I switched from a 3G because it was harder the grasp and I kept dropping it cause my fingers tended to hold it by the edges and not the entire surface of the sides (which took more effort to grip without obscuring the screen). Round edges give you more surface area to hold the thing.

I bet that infographic doesn't take into account a missing physical home button and on screen footer navigation software buttons.

Software buttons reduces screen real estate too.

Given the way both OS's work under the hood, this is probably going to be the case for awhile, made even worse by sloppy optimization and bloated skins featuring dubious features.

Though I will say the S5 holds it's own well against 5S. The user experience between the two is very close with only a couple of tweaks. No voided warranty needed.

Glance, Art, debloat silly features and carrier nonsense = smooth performance, solid UX.

Considering the 5S was released 7 months ago, it really shows how impressive the A7 chip really is. When A8 comes later this year, it's going to leapfrog Qualcomm once again.

 

[dannys1]

no choice?.. have you been banned from every phone shop in the world bar the Apple shop?..

If you limit yourself to definitely getting the next iPhone. No matter what, without weighing up the competition then at some stage u are gonna hit a point where u r not happy... So why buy something you are not happy with..

You always have a choice....

Well 1. I don't like Android at all (and yes I use it for test devices, both pure and skinned at work) and 2. Those phones are even bigger!

The Apple product is far far superior, even if its going in a direction I don't agree on due to the customer thinking they know best.

 

[MacNut]

Well 1. I don't like Android at all (and yes I use it for test devices, both pure and skinned at work) and 2. Those phones are even bigger!

The Apple product is far far superior, even if its going in a direction I don't agree on due to the customer thinking they know best.

You might think Apple is best but others don't. And who is to say that Apple knows what is best for you? You might like a smaller phone or out dated os but that doesn't make it the better choice.

 

[MattyW]

If you had read the repport you are quoting you would know that it is intact telling the opposite of what you are quoting it for

Crash Rate for 7.1 is 1.6%
Crash Rate for Gingerbread is 1.7%

Here are the real quotes from the site:
Android: Gingerbread Apps Least Stable
Apple: iOS 7.1 Apps Most Stable

[http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1097982-state-of-mobile-performance.html#document/p2 : page 14 and page 15 ]

I'm completely baffled by this post, did you not read what I wrote at all??

I said...

In fact recent studies have shown that iOS apps crash more consistently across almost all versions of iOS, the only exception being Gingerbread {4 years old} at 1.7% to iOS 7.1 at 1.6%, all other versions of android have fewer app crashes than iOS.

The report says the most stable version of iOS {for apps} is 7.1 which crashes 1.7% of the time and the least stable version of android is Gingerbread which crashes 1.8% of the time however {as pointed out above} gingerbread is 4 years old and has less than 18% market share. Not to mention that Kitkat, ICS and all versions of jellybean {over 80% market share} crash only 0.7% of the time less than half the most stable version of iOS.

Maybe you should try and read the report instead of calling me out on not reading it, I have read it in great detail I promise you.

You are right about animations that makes iOS 7 feel more laggy than previous versions.
But we are speaking about a different kind of lags and stuttering which is embedded in Android.
Don't get me wrong, it isn't something I can't accept. I still love vanilla KitKat and I think Google is going in the right direction.

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To be honest I like it very much, bit I'd like to see it compared to other phones to judge dimensions.

True that and to be honest I agree android definitely has worse and more consistent lag, just it annoys me when people make iOS out to be some lag free heaven {I use both everyday} they both have lag in certain instances through as pointed out above for me it has reached a point where it doesn't bother me {on either platform} early versions of android and the later versions of iOS on older hardware that was lag I couldn't stand.

 

[tjl3]

The report says the most stable version of iOS {for apps} is 7.1 which crashes 1.7% of the time and the least stable version of android is Gingerbread which crashes 1.8% of the time however {as pointed out above} gingerbread is 4 years old and has less than 18% market share. Not to mention that Kitkat, ICS and all versions of jellybean {over 80% market share} crash only 0.7% of the time less than half the most stable version of iOS.

Maybe you should try and read the report instead of calling me out on not reading it, I have read it in great detail I promise you.

I don't know why I read that as the stability of apps that developers, on the Crittercism platform, are releasing instead of the stability of the OS.

 

[Technarchy]

Considering the 5S was released 7 months ago, it really shows how impressive the A7 chip really is. When A8 comes later this year, it's going to leapfrog Qualcomm once again.

I'm not so sure this is a SOC issue. Apple makes great chips, but the same Qualcomm silicon in android phones tend to appear in Windows 8 phones, and laggy Windows Phone said no one ever.

That said, my S5 is plenty zippy.

 

[gotluck]

Yea I dont think it is a SOC issue

it is easier to make android devices lag due to the nature of android, full multitasking, oem skins, apps that load up processes in the background when you aren't using them (which is why i insist on using greenify), etc..

i can certainly make iOS lag as well. One thing that busts my chops is when people talk about smooth scrolling. iOS has a much lower maximum scroll speed, I'm sure I'll get lynched... but with ART and chrome beta on my S4GE I can rocket scroll without 'lag', probably 3 times faster than the maximum scroll speed on iOS. There is a lot of apples vs oranges here.

I dont want to see videos of people showing 'lag' in the samsung gallery app which is likely pulling pictures off the SD card of course it is going to be slower

 

[MattyW]

I don't know why I read that as the stability of apps that developers, on the Crittercism platform, are releasing instead of the stability of the OS.

I'm not sure what you mean??

What I said was...

The report says the most stable version of iOS {for apps} is 7.1 which crashes 1.7% of the time and the least stable version of android is Gingerbread which crashes 1.8%...

Through if you go look at the conversation we were having then it's clear we are talking about app crashes.