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iPhone 6: size comparison with Android phones

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MattyW said:
I'm not sure what you mean??

What I said was...



Through if you go look at the conversation we were having then it's clear we are talking about app crashes.
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The presentation is directed towards app developers, telling them to stop making apps that crash. It isn't a correlation that iOS 7 or Gingerbread is making your app crash. It is more of a call to developers or analysis on developers than a critique on iOS or Android.

Just different spin I guess.
 
gotluck said:
i can certainly make iOS lag as well. One thing that busts my chops is when people talk about smooth scrolling. iOS has a much lower maximum scroll speed, I'm sure I'll get lynched... but with ART and chrome beta on my S4GE I can rocket scroll without 'lag', probably 3 times faster than the maximum scroll speed on iOS. There is a lot of apples vs oranges here.
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Scroll speed has been discussed to death. Personally, I prefer iOS scrolling. Its speed makes more sense for reading articles, tap to get to the top makes sense for getting back to the top of a page, and dynamic scroll speed makes sense when it recognizes that you want to get to the bottom.

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/18690396/
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/18691053/
 
strausd said:
Scroll speed has been discussed to death. Personally, I prefer iOS scrolling. Its speed makes more sense for reading articles, tap to get to the top makes sense for getting back to the top of a page, and dynamic scroll speed makes sense when it recognizes that you want to get to the bottom.

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/18690396/
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/18691053/
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Maybe it is because I am not fond of mouse acceleration but I have a hard time with dynamic scrolling. Takes me like four swipes to get it going. By that time android is already at the bottom of the page. but fair enough it is a preference
 
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tjl3 said:
The presentation is directed towards app developers, telling them to stop making apps that crash. It isn't a correlation that iOS 7 or Gingerbread is making your app crash. It is more of a call to developers or analysis on developers than a critique on iOS or Android.

Just different spin I guess.
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Sure but as I said if you followed our conversation it would of made more sense...

Originally pragmatous said

Then go back to your octocore android phone with 4gigs of ram and yet it still lags. Applications crash all the time.
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To which I pointed out evidence actually suggests iOS apps crash more across all versions except Gingerbread, I gave no reason why this happened nor blamed iOS for it.

Considering the sample size it's absurd for someone to complain that android apps crash all the time {through judging by the OP's post he was just trying to take a dig at it, he may have never even used it}, without accepting that iOS apps crash even more.
 
Technarchy said:
All leaks point to this, which looks pretty slick to me.

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I'd be perfectly happy with bezels of those proportions, just wish it was applied to the current device size. I don't want a large phone, have decided my personal ideal size maxes out at about 130mm in length, would be perfectly happy with 4.5" display in a device that size.

I can't believe I'm going to admit this but of the two rumored upcoming iPhones, I think I'm more intrigued by the larger of the two (5.5" display). I would never use a 5.5" as my sole device due to its size but using it along with my current 5S could be replace my current 5S/iPad rMini setup--use the 5S when having the smaller phone is ideal or bring the large iPhone when pocketability/portability is less of an issue, far more portable than the rMini. An iPhone with a 4.7" display as portrayed in this and most other renders fits none of my needs.
 
tech4all said:
No offense, but you really have no idea what you're talking about. As said, this may be the common view in the iPhone circles, but in the real world, it's non sense.

My Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7 do not lag at all. Zero. They use PURE Android. Not some knock off with a third party UI.

May I borrow your words and say, for once in your life actually use an (pure) Android device for awhile.
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The problem with your logic is that some people do want the best camera and features like SD card or removable battery so there isnt like we have a choice in the matter. Google is just like apple very close-minded about their OS. I love both Android and iOS for different reasons and have iPhone5S and Galaxy S4+ but frankly i'm tired of both companies and going to give WP (Nokia 1520) a try. It feels like something between iOS/Android and it might just do it for me. WP is still not going to challange the big boys but with 8.1 it has got much better. My 1520 is on it's way to me so i will know more in a week :)
As for Android yes i'm tired of waiting for updates and the fragmentation, if only all big companies could release a google edition first and let people download their garbage through the store i'm sure many more people would buy Android phones and would have a better experience.
 
vampyren said:
The problem with your logic is that some people do want the best camera and features like SD card or removable battery so there isnt like we have a choice in the matter. Google is just like apple very close-minded about their OS. I love both Android and iOS for different reasons and have iPhone5S and Galaxy S4+ but frankly i'm tired of both companies and going to give WP (Nokia 1520) a try. It feels like something between iOS/Android and it might just do it for me. WP is still not going to challange the big boys but with 8.1 it has got much better. My 1520 is on it's way to me so i will know more in a week :)
As for Android yes i'm tired of waiting for updates and the fragmentation, if only all big companies could release a google edition first and let people download their garbage through the store i'm sure many more people would buy Android phones and would have a better experience.
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Shhh....... Don't you know you can't own both, and because you said some criticism about android you must be an apple apologist and have some vandetta against Samsung.

Just like anyone who has critiqued the iPhone must be a Samsung apologist and has it out for Apple.
 
gotluck said:
Maybe it is because I am not fond of mouse acceleration but I have a hard time with dynamic scrolling. Takes me like four swipes to get it going. By that time android is already at the bottom of the page. but fair enough it is a preference
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It depends on the length of the web page. Like I said in one of those posts:
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Going through a long twitter feed? No problem. Long comment section on some trending post on FB? No problem. 700+ PDF document for work or personal use? No problem. Huge photo library in the Dropbox app? No problem. Reading a long article in Pocket? No problem. Have a semesters worth of notes in a single Evernote note? No problem. Long G+ feed? No problem. Reading through an email thread that has gone through everybody in your building 5 times over? No problem. Hopefully by now you get the point. Long lists are out there in many different forms. iOS's dynamic scrolling allows you to get to the bottom of any article with a reasonable amount of flicks, and back up to the top with only 1.
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But I do agree that everything has their personal preference.
 
randian said:
Only home screen real estate. App real estate isn't affected because those buttons go away when apps run.
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You mean they can go away? Because plenty of apps leave them there. I'd imagine the only stuff that wouldn't is something that takes over the full screen like a game or video. Otherwise it'd be pretty annoying to tap the so-important back button or the home button or app switcher button.
 
blackcrayon said:
You mean they can go away? Because plenty of apps leave them there. I'd imagine the only stuff that wouldn't is something that takes over the full screen like a game or video. Otherwise it'd be pretty annoying to tap the so-important back button or the home button or app switcher button.
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Most games still don't hide them. A large majority of apps (I'd wager to say over 90%) leave on screen buttons there at all times.
 
Seriously apple should fix the slow scrolling speed that makes the iPhone lag. It is just stupid no matter how fast/slow you flip the distance moved is still the same amount.

And don't tell me that kind of scrolling is special or preferred over android because it just form a subset of Android scrolling capability.
 
strausd said:
It depends on the length of the web page. Like I said in one of those posts:


But I do agree that everything has their personal preference.
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yea, that is fair and true. some shortcut/gesture for top and bottom would be nice.

people is the biggest offender for me, i usually end up searching or quickscroll bar
 
Fernandez21 said:
Shhh....... Don't you know you can't own both, and because you said some criticism about android you must be an apple apologist and have some vandetta against Samsung.

Just like anyone who has critiqued the iPhone must be a Samsung apologist and has it out for Apple.
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hehe i know, some people take their phone OS to seriously, i love mobile phone and like to use all of them and learn and speak from personal experience and not just reading articles and what other say.
For example Android in my opinion sucks big time still since i cant even take a proper backup/restore unless i root it. Whats the deal with that??? So many iteration and still nothing. How can a big company like google not think of this?
And on iOS the keyboard sucks big time, swiftkey has made me lazy to type :)
Also the iphone screen is so tiny once you get used to a 5 inch.
As i mentioned but OS/phones have pro and cons.

Still competition is good since it will bring improvements to users. Adding WP into the mix might make the big players do more.
 
vampyren said:
hehe i know, some people take their phone OS to seriously, i love mobile phone and like to use all of them and learn and speak from personal experience and not just reading articles and what other say.
For example Android in my opinion sucks big time still since i cant even take a proper backup/restore unless i root it. Whats the deal with that??? So many iteration and still nothing. How can a big company like google not think of this?
And on iOS the keyboard sucks big time, swiftkey has made me lazy to type :)
Also the iphone screen is so tiny once you get used to a 5 inch.
As i mentioned but OS/phones have pro and cons.

Still competition is good since it will bring improvements to users. Adding WP into the mix might make the big players do more.
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Yeah, I don't get why people get that way over consumer goods, I guess just to make themselves feel better about the one they bought, but still, seems very childish.
 
bnmcj1 said:
I have looked at again. I must say that it is amazing how much bezel Apple can put into a phone. Impressive. Bezel in 2014.
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And your point is ?
18 posts on the forum, all against Apple to praise Samsung (sorry, one was to denigrate HTC also) .... Maybe you choose the wrong forum.
The right one was SamsungRumors :D

Ps: I don't want to ruin your day, but I'll give you a secret: S5 has more bezels than S4 .... still in 2014 :rolleyes:

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gotluck said:
Yea I dont think it is a SOC issue

it is easier to make android devices lag due to the nature of android, full multitasking, oem skins, apps that load up processes in the background when you aren't using them (which is why i insist on using greenify), etc..

i can certainly make iOS lag as well. One thing that busts my chops is when people talk about smooth scrolling. iOS has a much lower maximum scroll speed, I'm sure I'll get lynched... but with ART and chrome beta on my S4GE I can rocket scroll without 'lag', probably 3 times faster than the maximum scroll speed on iOS. There is a lot of apples vs oranges here.

I dont want to see videos of people showing 'lag' in the samsung gallery app which is likely pulling pictures off the SD card :p of course it is going to be slower
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People doesn't use the phone to furiously scroll between menu pages, people use it to, surprise, open the gallery app (and others).

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randian said:
Only home screen real estate. App real estate isn't affected because those buttons go away when apps run.
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In almost every app, they don't.
 
Max(IT) said:
People doesn't use the phone to furiously scroll between menu pages, people use it to, surprise, open the gallery app (and others)
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Well then put your photos on the internal memory if you are going to complain about the loading screen of the thumbnails. I find that it is fine after the thumbnails have been cached for the first time, but I believe my gallery app is different than stock samsung.

You will never convince me that the option to put photos on the sd card, therefor having slower gallery app... , is a negative.
 
Some new dimensions were leaked and posted on pocket now:

http://m.pocketnow.com/2014/04/25/iphone-6-renders-for-case-makers-leaked

It looks like it'll be very close to the HTC One M7 in size, about a millimeter narrower and half a millimeter taller. Of course its also much thinner, 3mm thinner.

Kinda disappointed, was hoping for something closer to the Moto X. But I guess we'll see in a couple of months.

Wow, just looked back at the renders on the first page, and it looks like you nailed it if these leaked dimensions are true.
 
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JoEw said:
Actually many do, not all of them however.



Also I would like to see how android performs on iPhone hardware specs.. I don't think it would be as smooth as IOS.
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You can have a smooth experience on a low spec device if it's pure Android. Especially if you're running Kit Kat. The Moto G has low specs and it runs great. Android can run on well low spec devices when it isn't bogged down by useless crap that manufacturers and carriers shove down our throats.
 
gotluck said:
Well then put your photos on the internal memory if you are going to complain about the loading screen of the thumbnails. I find that it is fine after the thumbnails have been cached for the first time, but I believe my gallery app is different than stock samsung.

You will never convince me that the option to put photos on the sd card, therefor having slower gallery app... , is a negative.
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In my opinion sd card are a thing of the past ... and Google have the same idea, considering the poor support they gave to sd cards in Android.

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Fernandez21 said:
Some new dimensions were leaked and posted on pocket now:

http://m.pocketnow.com/2014/04/25/iphone-6-renders-for-case-makers-leaked

It looks like it'll be very close to the HTC One M7 in size, about a millimeter narrower and half a millimeter taller. Of course its also much thinner, 3mm thinner.

Kinda disappointed, was hoping for something closer to the Moto X. But I guess we'll see in a couple of months.

Wow, just looked back at the renders on the first page, and it looks like you nailed it if these leaked dimensions are true.
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Moto X has not physical button, so it cannot be of the same size ...
 
Max(IT) said:
In my opinion sd card are a thing of the past ... and Google have the same idea, considering the poor support they gave to sd cards in Android.

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Moto X has not physical button, so it cannot be of the same size ...
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Phones are a thing of the past. We are entering the post phone era. :D
 
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