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Funny all the newbies coming on here to say I'm done with Apple lol. Apple products just work. If there is only 1 gig of ram I'm not concerned because I'm sure it will work fine. My Galaxy s4 has 2gb of ram and I cannot tell any performance difference between my husbands iPhone 5c and my galaxy s4. If anything my galaxy crashes and freezes up often. The iPhone 5c doesn't.

If this rumor about 1gb is true apple made a conscious decision to give up sales rather than margin. For the people who compare specs on paper apple doesn't care about those lost sales. For the few people who claim to have issues with 1gb ram and move out of apple, apple doesn't care about them either.

The iPhone 6 is going to sell like gangbusters. Antenna lines, camera lens, 1gb ram, no wireless charging and all.

There is going to be a certain amount of "I've left apple threads", but apple knows who it caters to in terms of a consumer.
 
We are just going to have to deal with it, as I'm sure Apple keeps close tabs with developers and the resource needs of their apps, and has determined that we don't yet need 2Gb of RAM.

Who is an engineer that knows better than they do?
 
If this rumor about 1gb is true apple made a conscious decision to give up sales rather than margin. For the people who compare specs on paper apple doesn't care about those lost sales. For the few people who claim to have issues with 1gb ram and move out of apple, apple doesn't care about them either.

The iPhone 6 is going to sell like gangbusters. Antenna lines, camera lens, 1gb ram, no wireless charging and all.

There is going to be a certain amount of "I've left apple threads", but apple knows who it caters to in terms of a consumer.
Well put.
I don't really like the iPhone6, but if that's all :apple: would sell I would buy it, too.
Simply because there is no alternative.
 
1GB works fine now for the vast majority, sure. Will it still when iOS 10-11 (or whatever the last officially supported version is) hits? That's the question. It's about future-proofing. Not everyone upgrades every 2 years - heck, I'm still of two minds whether to keep my iPhone 5 for now given how small my hands are.
 
We are just going to have to deal with it, as I'm sure Apple keeps close tabs with developers and the resource needs of their apps, and has determined that we don't yet need 2Gb of RAM.

Who is an engineer that knows better than they do?

It's fantastic that you don't need more RAM. I do, and I don't need an engineer to inform me. Lots of people experience safari reloads and app reloads. Heck, I even get reloads in my stock Notes app! I write long notes and constantly amend them. If I leave a note open in the app and then come back to it, it reloads and I have to scroll to the bottom again. I experience reloads ALL the time with apps & Safari and frankly I'm done with iPhones until they increase the RAM. So until the i7 arrives, I'm heading over to the Note 4. Yeah fanboys will say good riddance and that Apple doesn't need me etc, but they have pushed me away. Simple as.
 
We are just going to have to deal with it, as I'm sure Apple keeps close tabs with developers and the resource needs of their apps, and has determined that we don't yet need 2Gb of RAM.

Who is an engineer that knows better than they do?

I don't think it is what engineers are happy with, but management.
 
Whoa horsey, I think you should check out this thread to see that something like Safari reloads have been vastly improved with software, more specifically the new iOS 8: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1774324/

With all your talk about Notes and fanboys etc., I'm just wondering if you in fact are one yourself and just a negative nellie Apple spoiler who has no intentions of getting a new iPhone anyways. Hmmm. :/


It's fantastic that you don't need more RAM. I do, and I don't need an engineer to inform me. Lots of people experience safari reloads and app reloads. Heck, I even get reloads in my stock Notes app! I write long notes and constantly amend them. If I leave a note open in the app and then come back to it, it reloads and I have to scroll to the bottom again. I experience reloads ALL the time with apps & Safari and frankly I'm done with iPhones until they increase the RAM. So until the i7 arrives, I'm heading over to the Note 4. Yeah fanboys will say good riddance and that Apple doesn't need me etc, but they have pushed me away. Simple as.
 
Whoa horsey, I think you should check out this thread to see that something like Safari reloads have been vastly improved with software, more specifically the new iOS 8: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1774324/

With all your talk about Notes and fanboys etc., I'm just wondering if you in fact are one yourself and just a negative nellie Apple spoiler who has no intentions of getting a new iPhone anyways. Hmmm. :/

Huh? You're damned right I have no intention of getting one ;-)
Oh and software can't cure a lack of RAM. It may paper over a few cracks but that's about it.
 
Huh? You're damned right I have no intention of getting one ;-)
Oh and software can't cure a lack of RAM. It may paper over a few cracks but that's about it.
Software can't cure a lack of RAM, but if iOS 8 has cured Safari tabbed refreshes, then obviously the refreshes were NOT due to a 1Gb RAM limitation. Simple as that.
 
According to :apple:insider the iPhone 6 will have 1 gb of ram inside to save battery life.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...sts-a8-cpu-has-1gb-of-ram-is-clocked-at-14ghz

My opinion is, that battery life is more important than multitasking on mobile devices.
(and that is why the macbook air comes with 4gb RAM by default)

What do you think?


Battery vs RAM is a moot point. The second things need to reload any saving from not having the ram is immediately used. I believe it was Anandtech found more RAM with moderate usage to be more energy efficient albeit not on an iPhone.
 
Software can't cure a lack of RAM, but if iOS 8 has cured Safari tabbed refreshes, then obviously the refreshes were NOT due to a 1Gb RAM limitation. Simple as that.

I've been experiencing these reloads ever since iOS5 on the iPhone 4, and iOS7 made them even worse on my i5. So they've had plenty long enough to sort it IF this isn't a RAM issue. Really though, would 2GB of RAM not have helped across the board? Why skimp?
 
According to :apple:insider the iPhone 6 will have 1 gb of ram inside to save battery life.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...sts-a8-cpu-has-1gb-of-ram-is-clocked-at-14ghz

My opinion is, that battery life is more important than multitasking on mobile devices.
(and that is why the macbook air comes with 4gb RAM by default)

What do you think?

When you go Apple (esp. its mobile devices), you don't think about the spec. As long as it serves you well, no lagging, multitasking is well executed, that is more than enough. And if the purpose of having lower RAM is to boost battery life, that's even better.

But I have to agree with you that Macbook Air need to upgrade its RAM standard to 8GB.


Im out. Not only has the design gone backwards but this 1gb of RAM is a joke. Im sure most iphone users wont notice since most of them want 2 inch phones anyway.

Yeah man, the design gone backwards to me too. iPhone 5S has better design. But maybe the new slimness is to accommodate the wider body.
 
I really hope iPhone 6+ has at least 1.5gb of RAM. I also experienced refreshing of apps and tabs on my iPad Air, granted it had a larger screen but almost the same resolution as the iPhone 6+.
 
If this rumor about 1gb is true apple made a conscious decision to give up sales rather than margin. For the people who compare specs on paper apple doesn't care about those lost sales. For the few people who claim to have issues with 1gb ram and move out of apple, apple doesn't care about them either.

The iPhone 6 is going to sell like gangbusters. Antenna lines, camera lens, 1gb ram, no wireless charging and all.

There is going to be a certain amount of "I've left apple threads", but apple knows who it caters to in terms of a consumer.

I don't know of any phone that has wireless charging straight out of the box.
 
Battery vs RAM is a moot point. The second things need to reload any saving from not having the ram is immediately used. I believe it was Anandtech found more RAM with moderate usage to be more energy efficient albeit not on an iPhone.

You just really didn't think about what the facts of I was saying (or even have iOS 8 in your hands yet to see for yourself) and are just bent on blasting Apple for your perceived limitation of hardware. I can't do anything about that so go ahead.
 
Never found 1GB to be an issue on my iPhone 5. I don't have more than 3 tabs open at once in Safari, but I have experienced the refresh so I know it can be frustrating.

I'm more concerned about in 2 years time with iOS 9/10, will 1GB still be enough for the apps of that era?
 
I don't know of any phone that has wireless charging straight out of the box.

nexus 4
nexus 5
nokia 930
nokia 1520
lg g3
lg g2(verizon)
droid dna
htc 8x(although i think its only the verizon version)

and that is just off the top of my head.
 
Less RAM to save battery? lol That's a load of poopoo...

A 2GB memory chip doesn't use more power than a 1GB memory chip of the same type... In fact less RAM will use more battery life on the long run. As soon as the phone is low on memory, iOS has to free some of that RAM to run something else. You want to use the app that was flushed from memory 5 minutes ago? The phone will have to reload the app all over again (flash memory read), to cache it again in RAM (RAM read/write), and to flush another app from memory once again (Ram read/write again).

RAM is so cheap these days... I can't believe Apple didn't at least decided to give the 6+ 2GB of RAM...
 
It's fantastic that you don't need more RAM. I do, and I don't need an engineer to inform me. Lots of people experience safari reloads and app reloads. Heck, I even get reloads in my stock Notes app! I write long notes and constantly amend them. If I leave a note open in the app and then come back to it, it reloads and I have to scroll to the bottom again. I experience reloads ALL the time with apps & Safari and frankly I'm done with iPhones until they increase the RAM. So until the i7 arrives, I'm heading over to the Note 4. Yeah fanboys will say good riddance and that Apple doesn't need me etc, but they have pushed me away. Simple as.

Good luck with your note 4. It's supposed to be a fantastic device. Post over in the alternatives section and let us know how you are getting on with the device.
 
How does the RAM requirements for iOS apps compare to android apps? I have no idea, but it seems like it is all relative depending on the ecosystem.
 
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This is another reason why :apple: only uses low amounts of memory. It forces devs to programm intelligently.
Otherwise older devices wouln't run new apps anymore.

Are you serious right now or joking? Can't tell. The only reason Apple is using 1GB RAM is to maximize profits while minimizing expenses. It has absolutely nothing to do with devs.

To OP. They could've still used more ram and give us better battery life, Lumia 1520 is a great example of having a great battery life and 2GB ram.
 
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Never found 1GB to be an issue on my iPhone 5. I don't have more than 3 tabs open at once in Safari, but I have experienced the refresh so I know it can be frustrating.

I'm more concerned about in 2 years time with iOS 9/10, will 1GB still be enough for the apps of that era?

In 2 years time you will probably go for a new phone, either because of contract-renewal reasons, wanting the new features reasons, battery-dying reasons, etc. and so on.

We all know by now that you can't buy technology and expect it to handle everything years down the line.

Your argument does not hold weight, as you look at this fact: iOS 8 is going to run pretty fine for most people on an iPhone 4S, which has only 512Mb of RAM. OK?
 
iPhone 6 sports one gigabyte of RAM ;)

You just really didn't think about what the facts of I was saying (or even have iOS 8 in your hands yet to see for yourself) and are just bent on blasting Apple for your perceived limitation of hardware. I can't do anything about that so go ahead.


What are you talking about?

I am and have been running iOS 8.

And I'm reporting facts that were tested by an unbiased source and even clearly pointed out it wasn't tested on an iPhone but that's moot because it's a static source.

Where did I bash apple? Nice try trying to change what I said though.
 
In 2 years time you will probably go for a new phone, either because of contract-renewal reasons, wanting the new features reasons, battery-dying reasons, etc. and so on.



We all know by now that you can't buy technology and expect it to handle everything years down the line.



Your argument does not hold weight, as you look at this fact: iOS 8 is going to run pretty fine for most people on an iPhone 4S, which has only 512Mb of RAM. OK?


This is all assumption based. People will "probably" get a new phone?

And the 4S does not run fine on iOS 7. It's very well established that turning off features like transparency and such makes it run ok. And as far as RAM, if I were to switch to safari right now and back to tapatalk that I'm in tapatalk would almost certainly reload and I'd have to navigate back to this thread again.

Why even bring up the 4S (incorrect information at that) when you start the post with people will be upgrading anyway.

The reason I'm upgrading to the 6 is because of the 4S poor performance with iOS 7 and 8. I'll also be enjoying the new features no doubt.
 
In 2 years time you will probably go for a new phone, either because of contract-renewal reasons, wanting the new features reasons, battery-dying reasons, etc. and so on.

Sorry I meant for the next 2 years, but who knows, in 2 years time I may keep my iPhone 6 for another year. I don't buy my iPhones on contracts anymore (credit card + interest free suits me better) and I go with 1 year SIM only deals.

We all know by now that you can't buy technology and expect it to handle everything years down the line.

If it can't handle new things in a couple of years down the line because if the lack of RAM, then that's why we're calling Apple out on this one. Though Apple seems to be making quite the effort these days with support for older devices (Mavericks/Yosemite for example), it's not just how well iOS 8 runs but 3rd party apps.

Your argument does not hold weight, as you look at this fact: iOS 8 is going to run pretty fine for most people on an iPhone 4S, which has only 512Mb of RAM. OK?

Given how iOS 7 performed on the iPhone 4, I don't expect much from the iPhone 4S with iOS 8. It's not all to do with the amount of RAM of course, but lack of it certainly doesn't help things, nor future proof your device a little, which is the point I was originally trying to make.
 
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