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Conspiracy theories are always fun. Now the delta in behaviour is that she sends the data to the NSA via Apple's cloud when power is connected and you're in wifi coverage. ;)

Love the comment (the NSA is only watching the bad people). Heh, how do you think they find the bad people??? :D
 
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Technically the have no power, they can't do anything. They don't have any rights to any of it once they publish it there, so apple (legal standpoint) can take anything! which they always do
I'm not so certain of that.

But I don't know all the legal ins and outs here so I'm not competent to refute your argument with any facts.
 
I'm not so certain of that.

But I don't know all the legal ins and outs here so I'm not competent to refute your argument with any facts.

you could make something up haha to humor me lol But I did a report on it last year for my Patent Law class.

once you purchase an apple device, you evoke yourself to countless legal forms which you would already know, but once you jailbreak/use cydia its immediately illegal use of their device, so anything after that can't be used in court basically.. a simple way of putting it..

I can't break into your house then file a suite against you for assault when you confront me with a baseball bat
 
I dont worry, siri doesnt understand me :p quite a useless feature here and hopefully she can be killed if it is even activated... Maybe it is working on someday here too...
 
you could make something up haha to humor me lol But I did a report on it last year for my Patent Law class.

once you purchase an apple device, you evoke yourself to countless legal forms which you would already know, but once you jailbreak/use cydia its immediately illegal use of their device, so anything after that can't be used in court basically.. a simple way of putting it..

I can't break into your house then file a suite against you for assault when you confront me with a baseball bat
Well, here I do have to refute you. :D

Jailbreaking is not illegal. A violation of Apple's warranty and therefore a reason to deny you warranty service, yes. But illegal no.

The Librarian of Congress says so.

Anecdotal proof: I handed Apple a jailbroken iPhone 6+ with a cracked screen on Sunday for repair. Apple just had me restore the device before they would work on it.
 
Well, here I do have to refute you. :D

Jailbreaking is not illegal. A violation of Apple's warranty and therefore a reason to deny you warranty service, yes. But illegal no.

The Librarian of Congress says so.

Anecdotal proof: I handed Apple a jailbroken iPhone 6+ with a cracked screen on Sunday for repair. Apple just had me restore the device before they would work on it.

Illegal was a strong word to use, it is criminal though.. alteration of a computing device to allow free apps etc, free music, manipulation of security etc.. not something apple will waste their time fighting, bc they can just take what the people make and make money on it

i used to do it all the time, but it just gets old.. :(
 
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Illegal was a strong word to use, it is criminal though.. alteration of a computing device to allow free apps etc, free music, manipulation of security etc.. not something apple will waste their time fighting, bc they can just take what the people make and make money on it

i used to do it all the time, but it just gets old.. :(
It's not criminal. I.e., there is no court in the United States of America that would send you to jail for it because it's not a criminal offense.

Outside the States, that may be a different matter and if that is what you are referencing then I can't argue that. But inside the USA, it's not any kind of crime.

Apple fights it by shoveling out a lot of negative information about it. But beyond denying warranty to the customer there is nothing they can do legally to stop it.

I will always jailbreak if there is a jailbreak to be had. Getting rid of the irritants that Apple foists on me and making my device my own is important to me.

EDIT: I'll meet you halfway. Legal for iPhones. The iPad is apparently a different matter.
 
It's not criminal. I.e., there is no court in the United States of America that would send you to jail for it because it's not a criminal offense.

Outside the States, that may be a different matter and if that is what you are referencing then I can't argue that. But inside the USA, it's not any kind of crime.

Apple fights it by shoveling out a lot of negative information about it. But beyond denying warranty to the customer there is nothing they can do legally to stop it.

I will always jailbreak if there is a jailbreak to be had. Getting rid of the irritants that Apple foists on me and making my device my own is important to me.

EDIT: I'll meet you halfway. Legal for iPhones. The iPad is apparently a different matter.

computing device being iPad, ill see you at half way too ;)
 
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Nothing is recorded. The sound data is captured on a dedicated chip segregated away from the primary operation processor. The M9 co-processor doesn't send any data through the primary operation processor until it matches the "hey siri" hot-word. From there the rest of the sound is encrypted and sent to one of Apple's servers as a stream which is not saved; only processed to a text string. The server then parses that string for valuable keywords and feeds it to the Siri response server which uses a bunch of complex algorithms to come up with a proper response which is sent back to your phone.
 
Doesn't having It always on waste more battery than turning it off completely?
More than being completely off? Sure. Is it noticeably more to where it has an impact with the new chip dedicated to it? Likely not.
 
You need to educate yourself more on this subject.

Strange the very same comments were made "on here" about w10 and its assistant and how this was a "completely not acceptable" stance from MS. But Apple do it and it's fine. I'm just "replaying" the comments made previously...

Complete example of fanboy blinkers.. You can't have it both ways!!!!! Pmsl
 
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Strange the very same comments were made "on here" about w10 and its assistant and how this was a "completely not acceptable" stance from MS. But Apple do it and it's fine. I'm just "replaying" the comments made previously...

Complete example of fanboy blinkers.. You can't have it both ways!!!!! Pmsl

Again, you need to educate yourself more on this subject.
 
This is so wrong, this means apps can just about do anything with the feed they are constantly getting from Siri.
What's happened to privacy?

It's basically spyware.
This is so far from the truth it isn't even funny. Apple has zero to gain having third party apps listen to your mic without your consent. The difference here is that there is a hardware chip that can listen for your recorded 'hey siri' phrase in order to activate without draining your battery by leaving the CPU on and processing audio constantly. App's can't get to mic data unless you give permission, unless you are jailbroken of course, then anything goes.
 
This is so far from the truth it isn't even funny. Apple has zero to gain having third party apps listen to your mic without your consent. The difference here is that there is a hardware chip that can listen for your recorded 'hey siri' phrase in order to activate without draining your battery by leaving the CPU on and processing audio constantly. App's can't get to mic data unless you give permission, unless you are jailbroken of course, then anything goes.

It's spyware - why do it...
People should educate themselves.
 
Strange the very same comments were made "on here" about w10 and its assistant and how this was a "completely not acceptable" stance from MS. But Apple do it and it's fine. I'm just "replaying" the comments made previously...

Complete example of fanboy blinkers.. You can't have it both ways!!!!! Pmsl
W10's assistant gathers personal data about users and stores it out in the cloud by default. Where do you see Siri doing that?
 
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