People do use their device that like. They don't open the apps that quickly, but they do frequently switch between apps
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iPhone 6s Bests Samsung's New Galaxy Note 7 in App Speed Test
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Lets see if Samsung makes a commercial about this...
This is not even remotely scienftiic and to somehow connect this so-called test to real-world use case scenarios is pure hyperbole. Fact is, Samsung just makes better hardware and software. Samsung's hardware has more cores and more RAM. So I have to think these tests are just false.
The one so-called advantage the iPhone 6s has over the S7 is 3D Touch, a so-called feature that adds no additional level of interactivity or pratical usability. You can compile a list of everything 3D Touch offers and it still wouldn't matter. OLED is a higher priority than 3D Touch. A bigger battery is a higher priority than 3D Touch. Smart Scroll is a higher priority than 3D Touch. It just saddens me that Apple wasted years of resources for something so stupid as 3D Touch. Ooh, I can now interact on z-axis interfaces. How is this revolutionary? It's like adding a 5th wheel to a car.
There has never, ever been a time where I've personally wished I could press harder on an interface element. Never.
So the way I see is the iPhone is clearly inferior to the S7 and Android in every single category. Don't be so quick to be guilible that Apple's stupid so-called custom chip has some advantage over Samsung's superior chip.
The one so-called advantage the iPhone 6s has over the S7 is 3D Touch, a so-called feature that adds no additional level of interactivity or pratical usability. You can compile a list of everything 3D Touch offers and it still wouldn't matter. OLED is a higher priority than 3D Touch. A bigger battery is a higher priority than 3D Touch. Smart Scroll is a higher priority than 3D Touch. It just saddens me that Apple wasted years of resources for something so stupid as 3D Touch. Ooh, I can now interact on z-axis interfaces. How is this revolutionary? It's like adding a 5th wheel to a car.
There has never, ever been a time where I've personally wished I could press harder on an interface element. Never.
So the way I see is the iPhone is clearly inferior to the S7 and Android in every single category. Don't be so quick to be guilible that Apple's stupid so-called custom chip has some advantage over Samsung's superior chip.
I agree with you about the headphone jack - it will be a pain that its missing (assuming the rumors are true). But, I borrowed a pair of blue tooth headphones and have to admit that not having that wire, especially at the gym, is VERY VERY nice. The battery lasted me more than a couple of days and if on a long plane ride the lightning port is always a backup. When I get the phone I'll also get some wireless headphones. I'm hoping Apple does some interesting stuff with them - the current Beats are a couple of years old now.
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Actually, they'd be hating on Apple. MR has gotten decidedly more negative about Apple in recent times
Heh, and I thought Apple users were supposed to be "superficial" and only care about external design.
Maybe. The thing is, iPhones haven't lost too many speed tests over the years. But as far as I know, "everyone" was always saying that specs don't matter on their own, it's how the device actually performs. I don't think there was a big crowd of iPhone supporters saying "It doesn't matter how subjectively slow my phone is!"
Of course there can be a million other things more important to an individual than speed. At the same time a flagship phone in 2016 (or 2015, or 2014, or 2013, etc) should not lag and sputter regularly while scrolling...
The Apple A9(X) is a monster. I really admire how they are able to make the chipset more efficient and more powerful each year while they are so much ahead of every competitor. I would love to see how a 12" MacBook would perform with an A10X instead of the Core M3 as entry level option.
And for everyone who is interested who the executive behind these engineering marvels is, Bloomberg Businessweek had an amazing article about the work at Apple. It is definately worth the read!
And for everyone who is interested who the executive behind these engineering marvels is, Bloomberg Businessweek had an amazing article about the work at Apple. It is definately worth the read!
Specs don't matter if the performance suffers. The Note 7's performance sucks even compared to other Android phones.
Exiting one app to do something in another is exactly what people do. The other main usage scenario, which admittedly wasn't part of the video, is launching into an app from a sleeping phone.
And? I believe the point of this demonstration is that it highlights how effective Apple's "multi-tasking" implementation is versus Android's more traditional approach. And while I've always felt like, if you had the RAM to spare, truly alive apps in the background (Android/Desktop style) should be faster to multi-task between than suspended apps (Apple style), the evidence is pretty telling - Apple's implementation lapped Android when testing exactly that.
Just because iOS's default method of backgrounding is to suspend apps doesn't mean apps which actually need it can't run in the background. Do you recall the Facebook fiasco where they forced it not to suspend? The simple fact is that most apps absolutely should not keep running in the background. It's a complete waste of battery for no useful reason.
Former iPhone 6s Plus user here. No real issues with the phone, great battery life and super fast. But as pointed out by the non fanboys here, those speed tests are meaningless... Nobody uses a phone in that manner to that degree.
I can tell you by playing with them side by side now for the past few days, the note 7 is an incredible device, very fast and very smooth. Is it as snappy as my 6s plus? Nope, but it can also do a hell of a lot more within its software. It's all about how you want to use your phone.
I've had iPhones for 6 years and would recommend them to anyone who just wants a device that works right out of the box. But the experience got too stale for me, I wanted more, and that's exactly what I got in the note 7, more.
Goodluck to those of you who want to cling onto those speed tests, not at all close to a realistic experience. As an owner of both phones, atleast I have some real hands on experience
I can tell you by playing with them side by side now for the past few days, the note 7 is an incredible device, very fast and very smooth. Is it as snappy as my 6s plus? Nope, but it can also do a hell of a lot more within its software. It's all about how you want to use your phone.
I've had iPhones for 6 years and would recommend them to anyone who just wants a device that works right out of the box. But the experience got too stale for me, I wanted more, and that's exactly what I got in the note 7, more.
Goodluck to those of you who want to cling onto those speed tests, not at all close to a realistic experience. As an owner of both phones, atleast I have some real hands on experience
I have to admit, I was smiling while watching the video.
Ever since I dumped my top spec'd Xperia, or rather that it had crashed again and again when I needed it the most right before exams, I remember just saying f-it as me and a friend drove over to a local store and got the iPhone 4S (5 had just launched then but I couldn't afford it as Xperia was less than a year old turd that ate all my money).
My family from being a exclusively Xperia owners has turned to Apple's iPhones now.
Ever since I dumped my top spec'd Xperia, or rather that it had crashed again and again when I needed it the most right before exams, I remember just saying f-it as me and a friend drove over to a local store and got the iPhone 4S (5 had just launched then but I couldn't afford it as Xperia was less than a year old turd that ate all my money).
My family from being a exclusively Xperia owners has turned to Apple's iPhones now.
May I request to you do the same test but run iOS 10 on the iPhone 6s,when iOS 10 goes gold that is. Newer software with more 'features' might slow down the iPhone 6S a little. Good news is the upcoming iPhone 7+ with iOS 10, 4GB of RAM and the A10 CPU should demolish the current generation Note7
Holy crap, I saw you trolling on [H]ardForum and now you are here to troll more.
Are you seriously thinking that iOS doesn't have any Background services? Do you even code for mobile?
If you do, go on project target -> Capabilities -> Background Modes, then flip the switch to your desire background type. Then in App delegate, just implement your service there.
If you don't, then please stop trolling with your none sense, it's really embarrassing...
Also, in what way you want to actively have any RDP service in background running continuously? Sounds like a awful architecture to me that burns through battery.
Not just optimization, but architecture. iOS (and OSX) are both very well architected operating systems. From the frameworks to the core OS. Look at what Android was originally intended to be, compared to how iOS has ALWAYS been architected since the beginning
This wasn't necessarily a real-world test, unless your line of work involves constantly running and switching between seemingly-large applications.
You'd have to yank 3D touch out of my cold dead hand - especially after the IOS 10 update. I use it non-stop. Apple creates the best mobile processors - this is not a question - this has been proven in many tests. iPhone 6S is a year old. Samsung should easily beat it with all its "cores and RAM". After the phone comes out let's compare its duo-camera (assuming the rumors are correct) with Samsung's, oh wait, I forgot Samsung doesn't have a duo-camera.
The second lap to me is the most meaningful of the tests. This is actually how people use the phone. With lots of apps left running and them switching in between them. The first lap of opening app after app, is like you say, not a typical use case, but the demonstration of switching so smoothly and faster then the note 7 is a clear example of how a users experience is better with Apple over the note 7.
It's nice to see a year old Apple phone win against a brand new Samsung phone. Maybe I'm in the minority on this one, but I never really thought the hardware in samsung phones was anything to complain about. For me it's the Android OS, ecosystem (or lack thereof), and lack of integration with a desktop OS (windows or mac) that makes it inferior to iOS (IMO).
You'd have to yank 3D touch out of my cold dead hand - especially after the IOS 10 update. I use it non-stop. Apple creates the best mobile processors - this is not a question - this has been proven in many tests. iPhone 6S is a year old. Samsung should easily beat it with all its "cores and RAM". After the phone comes out let's compare its duo-camera (assuming the rumors are correct) with Samsung's, oh wait, I forgot Samsung doesn't have a duo-camera.
I too love the 3D touch on my 6s, iOS 10 makes it even better as you say. I even noticed myself trying to use 3d touch features on my 9.7 iPAD Pro. That screen though on the 9.7 best one yet.