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Also XDA has an in depth performance review corroborating the findings in the video above. Yet, heavily funded sites like the Verge give it a 9/10 performance score....

Verge reviews are based on usage and real world use by a single person. It doesn't make him an expert, he's a journalist who is an enthusiast of tech. Most of the time to keep getting review units they have to help promote a product. Professional reviewing is more about promoting a product than condemning one. You condemn a manufacturer too often, like a fanboy and the manufacturer will just stop providing you with review units.

I don't doubt at all that Dan at the Verge enjoyed the Note 7... and as I recall he had issues with the software. But you cannot deny that from a pure hardware standpoint that the 5.7 inch device with a 10-15% smaller footprint than an iPhone 6s Plus and room for a built in stylus is very impressive. I'm not going to jump over to Android anytime soon but the Note 7 is a very enticing product IMO and unless every leak is fake the iPhone 7 won't be nearly as impressive in any other aspect besides being a better marrying of software and hardware.
 
I love my S7 but this is super impressive. Apple is in a different league with their processors and top to bottom design of hardware/software.

I wonder if LG using Intel's 10nm process for their processors will put up a fight?
 
This is not even remotely scienftiic and to somehow connect this so-called test to real-world use case scenarios is pure hyperbole. Fact is, Samsung just makes better hardware and software. Samsung's hardware has more cores and more RAM. So I have to think these tests are just false.

The one so-called advantage the iPhone 6s has over the S7 is 3D Touch, a so-called feature that adds no additional level of interactivity or pratical usability. You can compile a list of everything 3D Touch offers and it still wouldn't matter. OLED is a higher priority than 3D Touch. A bigger battery is a higher priority than 3D Touch. Smart Scroll is a higher priority than 3D Touch. It just saddens me that Apple wasted years of resources for something so stupid as 3D Touch. Ooh, I can now interact on z-axis interfaces. How is this revolutionary? It's like adding a 5th wheel to a car.

There has never, ever been a time where I've personally wished I could press harder on an interface element. Never.

So the way I see is the iPhone is clearly inferior to the S7 and Android in every single category. Don't be so quick to be guilible that Apple's stupid so-called custom chip has some advantage over Samsung's superior chip.

I bought the galaxy s7 because i was hyped after reading all the reviews.
After using it for a few months:

- Samsung Software mostly sucks. Thankfully most of the things can be disabled. So i don't see how samsung makes better software. But Android itself i like.
- Yes the battery is bigger and at the beginning it was amazing how long it lasted. Sadly the performance degraded really fast and it's very unpredictable. Sometimes i end up with like 50% at the end of the day, sometimes it's just 20%. When i look at the Battery Usage screen then, it says that it was mostly used by Google-Play-Services and Android System. wtf?
that's not much better than my 4 year old iphone 5 (which was still on the first battery). I'm not a heavy user.
- the OLED screen has amazing colors. clear win. (just don't look at it in bright sunlight, the colors will look terrible.)
- the fingerprint reader is not as reliable as the one on my ipad. i've tried to train it a few times, but it doesn't seem to improve much.

- when i went to a different country, it did not change the timezone correctly. it showed me 2 clocks, but both with the same time. but it was set to adjust it automatically. always worked fine on my iphone. i ended up having to adjust it manually.
- after driving in the metro, not having any reception for a while and getting back up, the gps couldn't get my correct location until i rebooted the phone. this happened several times. never seen it happen on my old iphone.
- when i don't listen to music for a while it will just deactivate the music player. which means: when i go into the car and the bluetooth connects, it will not play the music automatically. so i tried like 2322424 apps that can start and play the music automatically when my cars bluetooth connects... and it still doesn't work 50% of the time. this must either be an android 6 or galaxy s7 problem, because there are plenty of guides on how to do this on older phones. but it's clearly not working on mine. but let's be honest: this should just work out of the box unless i kill the music app myself.
- the phone encryption somehow disabled itself. i turned the phone off before the flight. turned it back on. it didnt ask for the key. tried again -> the same thing. a day later without me changing any settings: it asks for the key again and shows the decryption animation. obviously i don't trust the encryption anymore.

that's just a few things than come to mind. but there were more little things that bugged me in the last few months. it just doesn't feel very polished. sadly the iphone 7 doesn't sound very interesting so far.. so i might just wait and see how android 7.0 improves things. (sadly samsung doesn't have the best track record on bringing android updates fast.)
 
iPhone is faster but would you base your next buy based on another phone being 1-2 secs faster than another?

Is this what things have become where it's bragging rights over loading apps a few secs faster? Isn't what the phone does and looks as important?
In a user interface, seconds are an eternity. If I were deciding between two phones, or two computers, or two watches, and one of the two loaded apps a second or two faster than the other, it would definitely play a major part in my decision.
 
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In a user interface, seconds are an eternity. If I were deciding between two phones, or two computers, or two watches, and one of the two loaded apps a second or two faster than the other, it would definitely play a major part in my decision.
If it was laggy and slow then yeah I agree. It's very important but if it's still quick enough then it isn't a big factor.

My 6s plus is faster than my s7 edge before I sold it but the edge was still plenty fast enough.
 
Which division of Samsung do you work for again? I mean seriously, you just said Samsung makes better software?? Even the most hardcore Android fans know that isn't true. A Galaxy contains carrier bloatware layered upon Samsung bloatware upon stock Android. And one doubts that more cores and more RAM doesn't necessarily equate to better performance? Heck, I can stick a Corvette engine in a big rig but it's still not going to beat a Mustang.



I do it every day when I get in my car to go home. I do a hard press on the Google Maps app, slide down to Home, and immediately get directions (and more importantly, traffic reports with reroutes) in no more than one tap. Apple will be building on this feature in the future. Just wait.
Or the Samsung devices with built in Google now.just automatically display your popular travel routes, traffic info, rerouted if needed. No waiting required...

Have a nice day sir.
 
The second lap to me is the most meaningful of the tests. This is actually how people use the phone. With lots of apps left running and them switching in between them. The first lap of opening app after app, is like you say, not a typical use case, but the demonstration of switching so smoothly and faster then the note 7 is a clear example of how a users experience is better with Apple over the note 7.
I missed the 2nd part I think
 
- when i don't listen to music for a while it will just deactivate the music player. which means: when i go into the car and the bluetooth connects, it will not play the music automatically. so i tried like 2322424 apps that can start and play the music automatically when my cars bluetooth connects... and it still doesn't work 50% of the time. this must either be an android 6 or galaxy s7 problem, because there are plenty of guides on how to do this on older phones. but it's clearly not working on mine. but let's be honest: this should just work out of the box unless i kill the music app myself.

No wonder they need to keep the headphone jack at Samsung. I'm hoping for better quality wireless on the iPhone, while the s7 is hoping just to connect ...
 
What else is new?

Apple has always been able to do more with less, because they have complete control over both hardware and software.

I did check out the Note 7 at the store. It really is a beautiful phone.
 
THANK YOU! I am an Apple fan boy but I am a tech fan boy, I'm glad that Samsung exists to keep Apple on their toes.
I do get tired of the the folks that are strictly focused on the hardware aspects of phones acting like we Iphone users are stupid and ignorant of the "superior" new phones coming out from other manufacturers.
People should use whatever phone they prefer and this shows that Apple phones are still in the game.
 
There is a fairly large community of NOTE 4 users (myself included) who think that NOTE was the last best one (SD storage and a removable battery). I was watching the 7 build-up and thought I might pick one up. But I just don't see anything that compels me to give up my NOTE 4. It still does everything I need it too and has a great screen.

(Not trying to fan-boy in here. Everything else I have is Apple. I just have some specific uses for a rooted android device and the NOTE 4 works. I really wanted the 7 to work better but it doesn't.)

FWIW
DLM
 
Former iPhone 6s Plus user here. No real issues with the phone, great battery life and super fast. But as pointed out by the non fanboys here, those speed tests are meaningless... Nobody uses a phone in that manner to that degree.

I can tell you by playing with them side by side now for the past few days, the note 7 is an incredible device, very fast and very smooth. Is it as snappy as my 6s plus? Nope, but it can also do a hell of a lot more within its software. It's all about how you want to use your phone.

I've had iPhones for 6 years and would recommend them to anyone who just wants a device that works right out of the box. But the experience got too stale for me, I wanted more, and that's exactly what I got in the note 7, more.

Goodluck to those of you who want to cling onto those speed tests, not at all close to a realistic experience. As an owner of both phones, atleast I have some real hands on experience

Well said, I did the same thing, and the Note 7 is for me the best phone I've ever owned. Not perfect, but having both 6S Plus and Note 7 next to each other, it's just no contest. Reminds me when Apple released iPhone 4. It's been a very long time since Apple has released something so good unfortunately...
 
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I'll give you the display, but personally I can't tell the difference at normal viewing distance
I'm with you, I'm happy with the iPhones display but I also watch more with My iPhone connected HDMI into my monitor
or watch on my iPad. I guess if all I had was the phone or if the resolution really mattered..it might matter
The iPhone might not be the best at everything but its the best at the things I care about..
now these tests prove that the mega ram and processors on the other phones are getting their axes kicked
by the iPhone ! :)
 
This is not even remotely scienftiic and to somehow connect this so-called test to real-world use case scenarios is pure hyperbole. Fact is, Samsung just makes better hardware and software. Samsung's hardware has more cores and more RAM. So I have to think these tests are just false.

The one so-called advantage the iPhone 6s has over the S7 is 3D Touch, a so-called feature that adds no additional level of interactivity or pratical usability. You can compile a list of everything 3D Touch offers and it still wouldn't matter. OLED is a higher priority than 3D Touch. A bigger battery is a higher priority than 3D Touch. Smart Scroll is a higher priority than 3D Touch. It just saddens me that Apple wasted years of resources for something so stupid as 3D Touch. Ooh, I can now interact on z-axis interfaces. How is this revolutionary? It's like adding a 5th wheel to a car.

There has never, ever been a time where I've personally wished I could press harder on an interface element. Never.

So the way I see is the iPhone is clearly inferior to the S7 and Android in every single category. Don't be so quick to be guilible that Apple's stupid so-called custom chip has some advantage over Samsung's superior chip.
Samsung needs more cores and ram because of bloated erratic software design. Optimizing cpu and ram Apple excels at and has from the beginning. Write bloated code, throw more cpu and ram at it. However, at some point this approach (house of cards) will start to fail. Example here.
 
Mind you, a lot of time is added for OS animations. My iPhone would smoke stock settings with my jailbroken settings, aimed for speed.

The point here is that phones have reached their "app launching" speed limit. The only thing holding the phone back is the way the OS is implemented by Apple.
 
Hell froze over yesterday. I was bored and I downloaded Android Studio 2.1 and started porting one of my Apps.
I'd looked at it before, coming from XCode it's butt ugly, but actually getting into replicating an iOS app on it makes you realise how un-optimised it is. Java will never be as faster a compiled code and with the Xcode compilers getting better (Swift) the difference is going to become more apparent.
I've been waiting for Google to announce Swift adoption into Android before beginning to port but boredom force my hand early.

I'm predicting that Google will adopt Swift to cut out MS's Xamarin and encourage software parity between iOS & Android.
 
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Can you help me out then fella with other adjectives that wouldn't be classed as hyperbole when describing the embarrassingly low.resolution 6s screen then please.

Thanks in advance.

Embarrassingly low resolution? You do have a gift for overstatement. You can't distinguish the pixels on the 6S resolution at normal viewing distance. Or even if you press your face to it. That's what a Retina display means. The human eye cannot distinguish the pixels without prodding a magnifying glass against the screen. That's far from embarrassing.

And what of failure rates? It's all well and good touting specs and numbers, but there's a fallout from it, and from adopting early technology before it's primed. If iPhones had that kind of failure rate, we wouldn't hear the end of it.

The truth is that Samsung can't compete with Apple on equal ground. So they just one-up with 'specs', to pander to the people who love numbers. More RAM. More cores. Quicker clockspeed. Better resolution. More megapixels.
 
I'll give you the display, but personally I can't tell the difference at normal viewing distance

Same. To me, the iPhone's display can stay the same for however long they want. It's good enough at "normal viewing distance".

What you don't have you don't miss, right?
 
Fine, even if this test is reflective of real-world usage, it doesn't matter because the S7 is fast enough. Same with the fingerprint scanner. S7 is good enough for most users. I think what we are seeing here is Samsung purposefully not making their chips too fast and powerful as to focus on energy efficiency and heat. That makes sense why the iPhone "wins."
 
iPhone is faster but would you base your next buy based on another phone being 1-2 secs faster than another?

Is this what things have become where it's bragging rights over loading apps a few secs faster? Isn't what the phone does and looks as important?
I think after hearing for so long that the other phones are so superior just because of the apparent superiority of the hardware that its nice to see that its all show and no go!
 
XDA Developers had a pretty condemning report of the Note 7. For an $850+ device, that is pathetic.

Most people here probably don't know it but XDA is a rather special site. For a variety of reasons they much prefer the phones with the native Android OS. This is a developer's (often - hacker's) perspective and has very little to do with the phone merits or the consumer perspective.

Among Android vendors, Samsung is known for aggressive memory management which improves battery life and degrades performance (especially when it comes to launching and re-launching multiple apps). Judging by the sale figures, most customers agree with Samsung.
 
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