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still, we're basically talking about one and only aspect,
the water color NR which turns every picture to a drawing in close inspection.
i decided i can live with that.
but of course any tweak, update or improvement would be hugely welcomed.

yes, i agree.
well, i just had a 5s in my hands, damn how tiny that screen is!
 
I think a lot of the issues people have with photography is more with the individual than the technology. I would recommend people really study photography. I grew up watching, studying and taking photos and am constantly learning.

But I don't sugar coat there are issues Apple need to address and I think the camera gets better every generation. I think iPhone 7 will be stunning for pictures. But I expect it as Apple doing the work they have in house in the last 8 years taking a mobile camera to where it is now is so impressive.

I have tested mobile phone cameras a tonne and the iPhone wipes the floor with the rest. The only one I am truly wanting to get my hands on is the Xperia Z5 as that camera stats wise is a dream. And we will prob see it in the iPhone 9S.
 
Hey guys how about that petition to make Apple acknowledge how bad is their water Color crap? how do we do this properly?
 
Hey guys how about that petition to make Apple acknowledge how bad is their water Color crap? how do we do this properly?
I would actually sign a petition to have a noise reduction button off mode. But I also want full controls too, and I know they won't have that.
 
I would actually sign a petition to have a noise reduction button off mode. But I also want full controls too, and I know they won't have that.

why just on/off? we can have a % slide.

but what does petition means nowdays?
can this really effect Apple to consider?
what's a minimum participants criteria of a petition like this?
 
Side by side with the 5S I kept as a spare reveals to me, nearly identical performance when comparing 15 images of various subjects in various daylight settings.

It's acceptable for me since I prefer and use a dedicated camera for 90% of my photos anyway. It's only a phone and this is Apple we're discussing. The company that features world class hype.
 
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Those lighting conditions are WAY TO DARK for the iPhone! You should know that if you have a decent photography background. In this image you took, the iPhone camera is using the highest iso setting it can reach, which is not good. I think you guys are expecting too much from the iPhone camera in those conditions. Even my pro DSLR would need at least ISO 6400 or higher to get a bright enough shot and it would be noisy. I'll say it again, if you want better night shots, I suggest the Cortex camera app and possibly a tripod... Or, get an app like 645 pro where you can fully adjust the iPhone camera manually (shutter and iso) to lower the noise. The lower the ISO, the cleaner the image. And if there is low light, low iso will be hard to handhold and you will most likely get motion blur.
Requoting this post for the latecomers. I just purchased and tested Cortex and 645 pro (full auto mode) and they are fantastic. Cortex reduced noise in dim room lighting down to extremely low levels but kept sharpness. It did reduce color accuracy by enhancing light in a way that gave a bit of Amber tint to white surfaces. The app does require me and the subject to remain still while it processes the image. Or at least I think it does. I'll need to do more testing to confirm that.

645 Pro still shows a bit of noise and slight watercolor effect but the image produced was far superior to the native iPhone app. I look forward to getting better at using full manual modes but to be honest the type of family photo snapping I do doesn't allow for me to play with settings much and I would have to rely on auto mode a lot.

What I like about both compared to an app I used in the past is that both store their photos in my regular camera roll and not a proprietary folder.

Thank you for the recommendations. These apps will do a lot to salvage a less than ideal situation with the iPhone cameras.
 
Requoting this post for the latecomers. I just purchased and tested Cortex and 645 pro (full auto mode) and they are fantastic. Cortex reduced noise in dim room lighting down to extremely low levels but kept sharpness. It did reduce color accuracy by enhancing light in a way that gave a bit of Amber tint to white surfaces. The app does require me and the subject to remain still while it processes the image. Or at least I think it does. I'll need to do more testing to confirm that.

645 Pro still shows a bit of noise and slight watercolor effect but the image produced was far superior to the native iPhone app. I look forward to getting better at using full manual modes but to be honest the type of family photo snapping I do doesn't allow for me to play with settings much and I would have to rely on auto mode a lot.

What I like about both compared to an app I used in the past is that both store their photos in my regular camera roll and not a proprietary folder.

Thank you for the recommendations. These apps will do a lot to salvage a less than ideal situation with the iPhone cameras.

great to hear, cortex camera app is the way to go with the iphone 6s in dim lit situations i guess.
 
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i think you're over reacting.
for a phone camera, it will be more than enough for your needs.
take a look at many samples on the net, and don't take the words here for granted.
the NR thing is indeed a little annoying (also for me) but that's about it.

Not really. Not for $1,000. I expect it to out perform most point and shoots for that price. The canon GX7 is around $700. It's amazing. My point was I really wanted the new phone not because I needed it but because I've had my 4s a few years. I certainly can wait till Apple gets this worked out. No use blowing that much money when the camera is lacking. Since these are taking the place of carrying a point and shoot I expect better performance or lower the cost.
 
Requoting this post for the latecomers. I just purchased and tested Cortex and 645 pro (full auto mode) and they are fantastic. Cortex reduced noise in dim room lighting down to extremely low levels but kept sharpness. It did reduce color accuracy by enhancing light in a way that gave a bit of Amber tint to white surfaces. The app does require me and the subject to remain still while it processes the image. Or at least I think it does. I'll need to do more testing to confirm that.

645 Pro still shows a bit of noise and slight watercolor effect but the image produced was far superior to the native iPhone app. I look forward to getting better at using full manual modes but to be honest the type of family photo snapping I do doesn't allow for me to play with settings much and I would have to rely on auto mode a lot.

What I like about both compared to an app I used in the past is that both store their photos in my regular camera roll and not a proprietary folder.

Thank you for the recommendations. These apps will do a lot to salvage a less than ideal situation with the iPhone cameras.

This is sad when you have to purchase apps in order for a quality high end phone to take great photos. I guess I will wait again. Aargh
 
The old 8-megapixel iSight camera delivers extremely good fine, textural detail for a small-sensor camera. The cost is a faint noise pattern, usually barely visible, but there nonetheless. Most photographers, however, would happily accept faint noise in exchange for this detail rendition. Disappointingly, with the new camera Apple has opted for increased noise reduction and increased sharpening (probably to offset its effects). As a result, the new camera's images look a little more 'processed' when you examine them up close, and the jump from 8 megapixels to 12 hasn't delivered a proportional improvement in detail rendition.

http://www.techradar.com/us/news/ph...re/cameras/iphone-6s-camera-on-test-1305786/1
 
I'd like to see photos from the 6S scaled down to 8Mp, before determining if the camera is worse. Pumping the pixels always confers some return, albeit a diminishing return. I think Google (and others) had the right idea, in going for a larger sensor, but this will effect the form factor of the device.

So, when will we see the first 4K feature film, shot entirely on iPhone?
 
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