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iPhone 6s Camera Worse than 5s? Pics
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They just aren't as robust. They have their purpose, but they aren't really comparable to a DSLR with the analog and superior digital controls over shutter, aperture and ISO. I would venture to guess that the rangefinder is a close second. The mirror less are just beefed up iPhones basically. Without a mirror, you're looking at a screen.
But my point isn't about which camera is better, it's the comparison to the iPhone that is in question. As someone that shoots both still and motion with DSLRs, that's my reference point. I use my iPhone 5 as a point and shoot (since it's no longer being used and is a piece of gear now instead of a phone), and rarely use my 6/6s + for anything other than snapshots (although I'm enjoying the 4K video).
i've had a D810 that wasn't as robust as a D700. nor are either of them as robust as a D4s i've rented. even within the range of DSLRs, they're not all equally as robust. there are even mirrorless bodies that are equally as robust, if that more so, than some DSLRs out there. of course not like a D810 or especially a D4s.
mirrorless cameras aren't limited to just the purpose of point-and-shoots. and going as far as calling them a beefed up iPhone is a bit silly. the D800 is basically a beefed up a7r, but with a mirror and pentaprism. though the EVF vs OVF may be a preference thing, looking at a screen isn't necessarily a bad thing - you can instantly see your exposure in realtime without having to chimp after each capture.
what analog controls are you referring to on a DSLR? anything like the manual aperture ring or manual shutter dial (and maybe manual ISO dial) of the Fuji X line of cameras or Leicas? they even have a manual exposure comp dial. you still have to turn a DSLR on before you can see your exposure. and i'm not even sure what superior digital controls you're talking about over the exposure triangle. but many of the M43 cameras like the Pany and especially the Oly have exposure controls in the similar fashion as DSLRs.
and in comparison to the iPhone, there are far more mirrorless cameras leagues ahead of it (and even many DSLRs) especially from the likes of an a7r ii or a7s ii.
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Exactly.... I have been doing photography now for 50 years and in that time have used a vast amount of cameras and lens.
What amazes me is the quality of the hardware in today's modern equipment.
Very true a DSLR with a large sensor can capture amazing shots but you do not need to have an DLSR to achieve said results.
Half the battle is the person behind the camera ~ no point giving an expensive DSLR if the user can not use it correctly or does not have a flare for imagination.
As to build quality and controls ~ again you do not need a dedicated DSLR to achieve great results.
Amongst my many cameras and lens I have two that are superb in every sense and easily my day to day camera of choice.
Both are Fujifilm X series.
The Fujifilm X-T1 with lens is fully weatherproof and has one of the best control designs around. It's Lens purchased separately are very expensive but boy do they deliver results.
The other being my Fujifilm X100T, a true rangefinder with superb controls, optics and design. With its Leaf Shutter and built in ND filter to name but two design features that place it head and shoulders above many DSLR's.
Both have in many respects better controls, use, design, etc. than quite a lot of DSLR's I have used.
I could go on and on about the benefits of these types of cameras over DSLR's but this forum is neither the time or place.
maaaaaan, i just made new pics again with my 6s. the faces on the pictures look so bad. just horrible. i think i'm gonna return the phone - but i hate it since i love the bigger size, its blazing fast etc.
i think i'll try to get a cheap 5s again and stick with it for at least another year
i think i'll try to get a cheap 5s again and stick with it for at least another year
I have a dream...
Also, here's an nice article on noise reduction in general:
http://reframe.gizmodo.com/turn-off-your-cameras-noise-reduction-1633706147
Bro.... I almost had a heart attack thinking this was a hidden option I missed!! Aaarrgghhhh
maaaaaan, i just made new pics again with my 6s. the faces on the pictures look so bad. just horrible. i think i'm gonna return the phone - but i hate it since i love the bigger size, its blazing fast etc.
i think i'll try to get a cheap 5s again and stick with it for at least another year
I had the same reaction returned the phone and kept my 5s, let's hope this gets improved for the next generation otherwise in my case, I'm moving out to a different phone...
Honestly I don't care what you think, for me the noise is a major issue even the contrast it's all messed up if you prefer your Photos that way good for you, live and let live.
didn't mean to come off offensive,
was just interested to know what make you discard the camera to that extend.
if i'll see what you mean and think it's that bad, you might make me think.
but i'll have to see some kind of example to know exactly what you mean.
Actually I experience the "Monet Watercolors" effect via noise reduction on my iPhone 5s just as badly as on the IPhone 6+ and now the 6S Plus. I had thought there was something wrong with my iPhone 5s after pics shot in a fairly well-lit indoor setting at a birthday party ended up ruined because they looked like paintings rather than photos. So I tested my husband's iPhone 5s under similar lightning condition and got the same effect. This has been going on a long time.Welcome to your new nightmare
Keeping my 5s for another cycle...
For your reference:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads...e-6-camera-please-help.1827634/#post-20467415
http://improvephotography.com/30019/iphone-6-camera-depth-review/
well well... in the end it's all lousy smartphone cameras, yes, BUT iphone 6&6s is off the charts with noise reduction and messed up contrasts. apple please fix!
if the phone was great in everything else but the camera part of it, maybe keep it and pick up a more serious camera? many newer cameras allow transferring photos to the phone quite easily. just another possible option.
i own a serious camera too, yes, but don't like to carry it around everyday.
Yeah.. Some of this discussion is so silly.. As if Apple ever set out to replace your pro camera with the camera inside an iPhone. Such silly thinking.
All iPhones and Androids have been and always will be suck-azz cameras compared to even the lowest end Digital cameras where you can manually set aperture and many other aspects needed to take real quality photos. Low light is one of the hardest environments to shoot in. And while I acknowledge that the 6S/6S+ are adding more noise reduction than the 5S or 6 did - it still looks like a phone image to me. Even the 5S shot doesn't look anything like a pro-level shot on a real camera.
It's all about perspective, people. I'd love my iPhone to take my blood pressure and blood sugar readings too.. But that's not its design goal. The smartphone is designed to be a "convenient" camera - so stop expecting so much from it.
All iPhones and Androids have been and always will be suck-azz cameras compared to even the lowest end Digital cameras where you can manually set aperture and many other aspects needed to take real quality photos. Low light is one of the hardest environments to shoot in. And while I acknowledge that the 6S/6S+ are adding more noise reduction than the 5S or 6 did - it still looks like a phone image to me. Even the 5S shot doesn't look anything like a pro-level shot on a real camera.
It's all about perspective, people. I'd love my iPhone to take my blood pressure and blood sugar readings too.. But that's not its design goal. The smartphone is designed to be a "convenient" camera - so stop expecting so much from it.
i dont think that is the problem here.
yes, true.
what we're expecting is that it's at least not any worse than cameras of previous iphone generations dude. e.g. 5s.
But two or three people are "returning" their frickin screaming fast 6S/6S+ phones to re-get 5S?!?!?! That's utter silliness and a loss of perspective, x34.. When the auto-Noise Reduction settings can so easily be addressed in a firmware upgrade AND WILL BE addressed by several jaikbreak tweaks once we get one for 9. In fact I'll bet there are already Apple Store apps that address it right now. The camera mechanism, itself, in the move from 8mpx to 12mpx, absolutely did NOT get ruined - only the controller software is set to overreact in dimmer light. Write to Apple. By 9.3 they'll change it for us.. But get rid of the best iPhone ever made, at all levels, for a 5S??? That's just plain psychotic overreaction.. I stand by my original statement.
For the record, this was an issue on the iPhone 6 and 6+ and even with a jailbreak out, there's not a single tweak to resolve this. Given that the same exists on the 6s and 6s+, it remains unlikely that this will see a "fix" this.