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'iPhone 6s' Display and Logic Board Shown Booting to Gear Screen

We already have assembled iPhone and dont even have a data for the keynote...that is pathetic...
 
macduke said:
Has anyone looked at this device under a magnifying glass or microscope to confirm how many PPI the 6s is? I wonder if they'll bump it up to the proper no-scaling @3X 1125x2001? I didn't notice a big sharpness difference between my 6 Plus display and my older iPhones, but I wonder if the same is true when I go back down in size after getting used to it. When using my iPad or rMBP I don't notice them being lower PPI—but I also use them from further away.

As for the physically larger A9 chip, I'm hoping that they either added an extra core such as the A8X in the iPad Air 2, or they've added additional video cores. The latter would suggest that they might have moved to @3X for the display. I suppose it could be for the extra RAM, but I think that after three years they could just use a denser chip in place of the 1GB module, correct? If this A9 chip is 10% larger, and their new process is 14nm, then that's 30% smaller than the 20nm process. For reference, the A8 chip is about 30% smaller than the A8X chip—at least according to some numbers I found in a quick search. So either this iPhone is going to be freakishly fast (extra cpu and/or video cores, have amazing battery life (more integrated chips), or a mix of both (I think this option is likely). But significant improvements should be seen if their 14nm process results in a larger chip. Someone please correct me if I'm way off base with that assumption!

I'm looking forward to these energy efficient chips. My iPhone 6 Plus has plenty of battery life, but that is my only meaningful concern with going back down to a smaller iPhone. I hope they are also able to squeeze a few hundred extra mAh into the new battery design. As I mentioned above, the 14nm process should really help as well—as long as they don't put all of their design budget into speed. Overall this should be a solid upgrade that is much more significant internally.
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I think the PPI will be the same and we'll see something new in 2016.
I do expect the A9 to be triple core and to have 2GB of RAM. The new phone will be really fast and I expect some improvements in A9 to be specific for image processing in order to improve the camera experience on the iPhone. We may see a new sensor with more MP but 4S and 5S had some improvements on the SoC dedicated to the camera and I expect something similar this year.
iOS 9 has new features to improve battery life so they may focus on performances with A9 instead of power consumption.
I also expect force touch but unless they find a really great way to integrate it with iOS it won't be a compelling reason to move to the S generation.
Let's see if they put some multitasking features on the new phones thanks to the RAM in A9, that could be the "one more thing" of the new iPhone instead of force touch
 
n-evo said:
I have no idea what the gear screen means.
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Is it something only seen in a factory, maybe when the phone has booted a very basic onboard loading program to the state where it's ready to have the factory-installed iOS image loaded onto it?
 
chrmjenkins said:
Apple is interested in quantum dot technology, though they are concerned with the environmental applications. It would help them to reach OLED like contrast levels.
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Why reinvent the wheel. Samsung has mastered OLED and has shown that it's the top display tech going on 2 years. I guarantee that iPhone 6s will not touch the S6/Note 5 displays. The only thing the iPhone may have is a brighter overall display but the Samsung offerings do very good in direct sunlight.
When you see black on OLED it's black. And the display is very good when used in VR applications. I really can't think of a negative when it comes to OLED other than Apple is not using it.
 
Can anyone read the battery size, tried pausing it man so close you can almost see it.
 
cdmoore74 said:
Why reinvent the wheel. Samsung has mastered OLED and has shown that it's the top display tech going on 2 years. I guarantee that iPhone 6s will not touch the S6/Note 5 displays. The only thing the iPhone may have is a brighter overall display but the Samsung offerings do very good in direct sunlight.
When you see black on OLED it's black. And the display is very good when used in VR applications. I really can't think of a negative when it comes to OLED other than Apple is not using it.
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Screen burn.
I've seen it on Samsung phones.
 
iapplelove said:
128GB 6 plus here and won't ever go back to anything smaller .
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I was stoked for the 6+ this time last year, even got up at 3am on holiday in Jamaica to order it!

However, I struggled with it size wise and returned it for a 6.

I think the issue was that (for me) it was just too much of a leap size wise, from my 5S and couple that with the limited cases on sale at the time (I had a chunky Spigen).

However, If I'm honest, I've missed it and I think I'm going to get myself a 6S+ in September.
 
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nagromme said:
I want color accuracy, sunlight usability, display longevity without color shifts, and REAL pixels, not Pentile-style cheats that leave a fine checkerboard over everything. Until I've heard of all those OLED problems being sufficiently solved, I want Apple to stick with really top-end LCD and LED backlights and not cut corners Samsung-style.

Those LCD benefits add up to a lot more to me than the black level when the phone is used in total darkness. Yes, in total darkness, OLED black is blacker. I don't even notice, and if I learned to pay attention to it, I still wouldn't care enough to give up color accuracy (which is different from gamut and "looking colorful") etc.

I do think OLED will solve those things, and if they've all been solved and I just haven't heard it, then you are free to proceed with OLED, Apple :)

(OLED can also offer a wide viewing angle and no edge bleed--but iPhones have been awesome in those regards already. It's also battery-friendly with an all-black UI.... not something I desire on my phone, although it's fine on the Watch.)
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I will take iPhone screen over S6 any day.
 
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Imory said:
From the perspective of manufacturing cost, availability and the fact that these decisions happen very early on, if Apple does decide to embrace OLED (as you mentioned, it seems that Samsung have finally worked out the shortcomings), then it will most definitely be implemented for the 7 or 8 and not in between two generations (I consider the S to be the tick).
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iPhone: (irrelevant, as there was no "iPhone s", therefore no tick/tock)

iPhone 3G: tick
iPhone 3GS: tock

iPhone 4: tick
iPhone 4s: tock

iPhone 5: tick
iPhone 5s: tock

iPhone 6: tick
"iPhone 6s/6s+": TOCK
 
If you've seen Nokia/Microsoft "Clear Black Display" with the polarising filters which cut out SO much glare and make the LCD pop on my Lumia 640 XL, you'd want Apple to use something similar. Amazing for an LCD, amazing phone.
 
Azzin said:
I was stoked for the 6+ this time last year, even got up at 3am on holiday in Jamaica to order it!

However, I struggled with it size wise and returned it for a 6.

I think the issue was that (for me) it was just too much of a leap size wise, from my 5S and couple that with the limited cases on sale at the time (I had a chunky Spigen).

However, If I'm honest, I've missed it and I think I'm going to get myself a 6S+ in September.
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1: "I took my wife on holiday to the Caribbean"

2: "Jamaica?"

1: "No, she wanted to go"
 
uid15 said:
iPhone: (irrelevant, as there was no "iPhone s", therefore no tick/tock)

iPhone 3G: tick
iPhone 3GS: tock

iPhone 4: tick
iPhone 4s: tock

iPhone 5: tick
iPhone 5s: tock

iPhone 6: tick
"iPhone 6s/6s+": TOCK
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You could argue that there WAS an iPhone S when they bumped up the storage for free almost immediately after launch.
 
uid15 said:
iPhone: (irrelevant, as there was no "iPhone s", therefore no tick/tock)

iPhone 3G: tick
iPhone 3GS: tock

iPhone 4: tick
iPhone 4s: tock

iPhone 5: tick
iPhone 5s: tock

iPhone 6: tick
"iPhone 6s/6s+": TOCK
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The S cycle iPhones are the tick because the tock is the bigger movement.. The tock is louder, and moves the needle, the tick doesn't move the needle, it's preparatory.
 
nagromme said:
I want color accuracy, sunlight usability, display longevity without color shifts, and REAL pixels, not Pentile-style cheats that leave a fine checkerboard over everything. Until I've heard of all those OLED problems being sufficiently solved, I want Apple to stick with really top-end LCD and LED backlights and not cut corners Samsung-style.
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I do think OLED will solve those things, and if they've all been solved and I just haven't heard it, then you are free to proceed with OLED, Apple :)
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The fact of the matter is OLED has surpassed LCD in every conceivable way except pixel life, which is far more than sufficient for a 2-3 year upgrade cycle on a phone. Samsung has been earning incredibly high marks on instrument based, objective testing by DisplayMate for years. Last year, the Note 4 was regarded as having the best display they'd ever tested. This year, the Note 5 took that distinction with its 2560x1440 AMOLED panel with the "best absolute color accuracy of any mobile display that we have ever tested"-- that's right, the best color accuracy of any mobile display ever tested by the laboratory-- a pretty impressive statement for OLED panels. Also, it does this with 21% better power efficiency compared to the previous panel in the Note series. Here's another statement by DisplayMate regarding efficiency, "
The Galaxy Note 5 is 37 percent more power efficient than the iPhone 6 Plus (scaled to the same screen size and Luminance) that we tested for mixed screen content". That means for every watt you put into the screen out of your battery, you get 37 percent more screen on time with mixed, typical usage; there are examples where the LCD on the iPhone 6 plus could be more efficient but they're unlikely to occur in regular use (very saturated, high brightness white colors).

Article link here: http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note5_ShootOut_1.htm

Anyway, there is no comparison between LCD and OLED, and Apple's refusal to upgrade the panel to the design of today has no excuse but profit for Apple.
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Orange Computer said:
The Samsung display is really bright and has great contrast. It doesn't produce very good color though.
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Completely untrue. Laboratory testing by DisplayMate states the note 5 has, "the best absolute color accuracy of any mobile display that we have ever tested". I'll link the entire thread below where you can read about OLED trouncing LCD in essentially every category including contrast, efficiency, adaptability, and color accuracy.

http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note5_ShootOut_1.htm
 
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