Just curious, what were you expecting?
Looking at previous generations:
3GS added faster 3G
4S added Siri
5S added TouchID
IMO, this is the biggest S upgrade ever.
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Just curious, what were you expecting?
Looking at previous generations:
3GS added faster 3G
4S added Siri
5S added TouchID
IMO, this is the biggest S upgrade ever.
And Apple will sell 200,000,000 of these phones in the next 12 months.
Fanboy? Don't think so. The 6s is an amazing phone. I would definitely upgrade if I was on any phone older than the 6.
I think we are likely to see wireless charging next year. Also maybe screen improvements (thing Apple Watch tech).
I'm going to base whether this new phone is a huge jump on real world performance. In happy enough with the changes to want to upgrade. If 2gb of ram gives me the benefits I expect it will, that alone will be worth it.
I'm secretly hoping the 6s plus gets split screen multitasking. If not, this may be the first time in years I jailbreak. I suspect the phone can absolutely handle the task seeing as how iPads with same or lesser specs can...
I'm going to base whether this new phone is a huge jump on real world performance. In happy enough with the changes to want to upgrade. If 2gb of ram gives me the benefits I expect it will, that alone will be worth it.
I'm secretly hoping the 6s plus gets split screen multitasking. If not, this may be the first time in years I jailbreak. I suspect the phone can absolutely handle the task seeing as how iPads with same or lesser specs can...
Unfortunately we have no idea what the compression is going to be like. Looking at 1080p versus 4K, it's nowhere near the leap that 480i to even 720p was. I REALLY don't expect people to be too torn up about not having recorded everything in 4K. We are still years away from 4K being adopted as the "standard".
To me, and. I am sure many others, justifying $100-200 increase in cost just to be able to record in 4K (yes the 16gb can record 4K as well, but how long?) just isn't worth it.
You don't really need more memory in your iPhone to record 4K. Sure, you might be somewhat limited but at least you will have the best what video has to offer under current technologies. I don't know how old you are but I'm sure you know it takes time for technology to be fully adopted. Even though 4K isn't the "standard" yet, it will be in the coming years.
Back when 720p and 1080i were just getting started and there were no HD home video cameras, I purchased a 480i video camera but is shot in 16x9 anamorphic (same as regular DVD). To this day I thank my lucky stars I started recording that way even back then because now, at least those videos fill my screens (not HD of course). You see what I'm driving at? It may seem silly to record in 4K right now but in the end, you will be glad you did it.
I agree. Recording with 4k now is the smart thing to do.
I think next years AppleTV will support 4k.
Being realistic...
1. Faster CPU
2. Better Camera with better aperture (2.0 or even 1.9) rear and same 5 MP 2.2 for front
3. Sire improved once again
4. Touch ID improvements again
5. Better Screen
6. Different Body, but not really thin
7. Same Colors
8. 32 GB entry level amount
9. Same 2 GB of memory
1. Faster CPU
2. Better Camera with better aperture (2.0 or even 1.9) rear and same 5 MP 2.2 for front
3. Sire improved once again
4. Touch ID improvements again
5. Better Screen
6. Different Body, but not really thin
7. Same Colors
8. 32 GB entry level amount
9. Same 2 GB of memory
Give me this and I will upgrade from my 4S. 8)
Oh, and longer battery time of course, along with OIS (+ video) on the non-plus.
I agree it takes time for technologies to adapt. What I am saying, though, is the difference between 4K and 1080p is not as large a leap, to the viewer, as sd was to HD. You maintain that a person will regret not having recorded things in 4K. I maintain that I almost certainly will not. I would venture to guess that the vast majority of iohone users don't even really take videos with their phone, much less videos where, a few years down the road, they find themselves regretting now recording in 4K. Sure there will be a segment of folks that want that NOW. I just don't think that's anywhere near the majority.
It remains to be seen how much space 4K recording actually takes up, but it's a safe bet that this is to be a larger number than the previous 1080p recordings, which can already be hundreds of megabytes in size for a mere 30 second clip. Anyone that is seriously concerned about the quality of the videos they take being "only 1080p" a few years down the road is likely going to be investing more into their phone storage (read: probably not the guy that was told he mwill regret not recording in 4K).
It also remains to be seen if 4K even takes off. Not all technology that is "better" actually is enough of an improvement for customers to decide it is a worthy investment (look at thunderbolt, which, spec-wise destroys the competition, but it hasn't exactly caught on outside of niche pro level setups). 4K has come down tremendously since its inception, yet sales at this point in its "lifecycle" are much less than they were when HD was at the same stage (presumably due to consumers not seeing fidelity increase worthy of their dollars).
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You're mistaken if you think that's all that was upgraded before. Every S release they increase the processing power, improve the camera in some form, and every couple releases they increase RAM and do a major camera refresh.
All I can say is that if people and manufacturers thought that way, we would still be at 480i. It scares me when people say 1080p is good enough. It's a recipe for stagnation.
I think you're twisting my words a little bit there. I'm not saying it's good enough, I'm always excited for newer tech. What I AM saying is, side by side, the leap isn't as drastic as when went for sd to hd. I realize this is somewhat subjective, but I did mention sales trends seem to support this notion, so people DO think that way (we can also cite the more or less failed 3D segment as newer tech not necessarily meaning better tech, and yet innovation doesn't seem to stagnate, it simply picks up the pieces and moves on).
Is it worth a 30 second clip eating up 10% of my available storage so that I may enjoy it in higher fidelity later in life? You say yes. I say that the sacrifice, for those with a 16gb device, isn't worth the increase in quality that they're likely only truly able to enjoy many years from now. That's not me saying 1080p is good enough. That's me saying that I don't want to give up TODAY what I have to give up in order to reap the benefits tomorrow.
It's also worth noting that there isn't a very good or easy way to enjoy the 4K recording of the iohone 6s/plus for those who already have a 4K device! There's a thread discussion this and the best people have come up with is loading the video onto anusb drive and playing back on a smart tv. So we are quite literally talking about either jumping through hoops to enjoy a 4K recording I just today recorded, or we are talking about hoping that we will one day be able to enjoy that video; to me that is a poor trade off.
I absolutely don't feel that a device with 16gb of storage is well suited for 4K video recording. I think that fact is far more detrimental to people's decisions to "future proof" their recordings than the fact that 4K hasn't taken off yet.
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SD to HD is 480p to 720p. 640 x 480 to 1280 x 720, or 300 kilopixels to 920kilopixels. That's 3 times more.
1080p to 4k is 1920 x 1080 to 3840 x 2160, or 2 megapixels to 8 megapixels. That's 4 times more.
Are you sure you know what you're talking about?
The problem is that 3 out of the 4 things you quote are already available in many Android flagships. I love my iPhones, but frankly these updates are very meh and not particularly innovative. There are very interesting innovations in the 6S, but not the ones you quote.
I'm not talking specifications and pixel numbers. I'm talking from a user experience ("to the viewer"). It's subjective. I don't feel that, when I view these screens, they're as big a leap.
Have you seen a higher than 1080p smartphone screen? Can you honestly say that it's x times better than your 6plus in resolution just by looking at it? Maybe you can. I e seen a handful of screens that tout higher resolutions than the iPhone and I certainly cannot make that distinction to the point that in saying "wow, this is a huge leap in quality", and based on the dozens of threads I've read in the subject, in not alone.
This is a fair point and a real issue now. The size and quality of a recording is dependent on both the bitrate and the compression algorithm.
It's quite possible to have a 4k video that's smaller than a Full HD video, while still having a better quality than it. This is done when you have a superior compression algorithm. h.265 is actually very good for this, but the main issue is that h.265 is extremely compute intensive. Currently the 4k video recording on the iPhone 6S uses the older h.264 which does take up considerable space unfortunately.
However, you don't need to "enjoy it in higher fidelity later in life". You can enjoy it right now - with the retina iMac with a 5k display. I've been doing it since the beginning of this year with a Panasonic LX100, and the video is absolutely amazing.
This is a little hard to qualify. I sometimes watch 480p videos on Youtube, and although initially I'm a bit put off, I don't feel too bad about the quality after a while.
I agree with this. A phone with a 4k display is... well I can't see the point of a 800 PPI display, but that's exactly what Sony is doing with their Xperia Z5 Premium.
If you do record 4k video, you're not really supposed to enjoy it on your phone. You definitely have to view it on an external display (I really really recommend the retina iMac for this). In this regard I agree, Apple hasn't made this any easier, especially with the Apple TV not supporting 4k. I'm hoping this will change soon.
I guess I need to be very clear with everything I say today. Maybe I'm not getting my thoughts into text properly, and I'll apologize for that.
Obviously there are already 4K displays and tvs. Obviously there are ways to play your 4K video recording in full fidelity right outnofnthebbox.
I am simply referring to the average 6s user. I think It's absolutely fair to say that they do not and will not have a 4K display likely in the life of the product (we will call this two years for sake of argument)
The 5k macs have me drooling. They're even a great price point for what they are (which is rather amazing seeing as how Apple is always given such a bad rep for "overpricing"). I'm obviously not going to buy s 5k iMac to watch my recordings. Average iPhone 6s user isn't ether. I speaking for the Joe blow here. Not the maxrumors enthusiast.
Who knows. Maybe I'm completely off base. Maybe the ability to record 4K video on the iPhone this year is the push the 4K display market needs. I'm down for driving the price of 4K displays down.
On a side note, the h264 algorithm is spectacular, and even more so in 720p. I can watch a feature length film in surround and it clocks in at around 1.25GB. I choose 720p because it saves significantly on file size and, for me, is almost indistinguishable from 1080p, certainly not enough to warrant 2-3x file sizes.
Actually you are essentially saying that 1080p is good enough since you are giving up your ability to record in 4K because its not convenient. That's OK. To each his own.
I suspect that the iPhone 6S will default to 1080p30 video recording. Power users will be aware and know how to turn it on, and I'm guessing power users will also probably buy something larger than 16GB.
I will be very surprised if the default is 2160p30. That... is going to draw complaints from the average user for sure.
Sigh. No. I'm not. I'm saying that in most cases, recording in 4K isn't going to be worth sacrificing what little space I have left on an entry level device. I guess I don't see in furthering this conversation since you continue to insist on putting words in my mouth.
Absolutely. I was trying to speak for the non power user here, as I assume the person who was initially quoted as saying they plan to just record in 1080p is not said power user we speak of.
Design Change
OLED & Higher Resolution Display (really hoped to get this on the 6s+
32 GB Base Model Storage (if we're lucky enough
Wireless Charging and/or Fast Charging
Better Battery Life and/or Thinner
Possibly 3 or 4 GB RAM
Possibly a 4" model
And I'm sure there are other things yet to come.
I wonder if Apple will use OLED displays on later iPhones, since it seems like doing so would "admit" that they're better and that regular LCDs, which they continue to use, are inferior. It's like the 6 Plus thing, which Apple (Steve) thought in the past wasn't of interest to the consumer, which in turn Samsung proved them wrong, as I continue to believe they likewise do in the department of OLED displays.