You do know that Apple is the richest company in the world, that the mark-up on the iPhone is huge, and that the iPhone is their best selling product? Why does their profit margin excite you so? Why do you wish them to gain more at your own expense?
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'iPhone 6s' Logic Board Suggests 16GB Base Model and Updated NFC Hardware
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You do know that Apple is the richest company in the world, that the mark-up on the iPhone is huge, and that the iPhone is their best selling product? Why does their profit margin excite you so? Why do you wish them to gain more at your own expense?
Can you prove that they would prefer 16GB?
Just because they buy 16GB it doesn't prove anything, as they're probably just buying the cheapest iPhone rather than the spec they actually want. As for my own proof, well there is none. You got me there. However, the only people I know who don't need much storage are my parents. Everyone else (I know) either moans about 16GB or buys a phone with more storage. I know plenty of guys who refuse to buy an iPhone because it's only 16GB and doesn't have a memory card slot...
Most of the people I know don't have iPhones, so I can hardly ask them what storage size iPhone they use. I've simply been trying to get you to admit that and stop projecting your opinions as facts. Are there people who don't think that 16gb is enough? Probably. Are there people who actually think that Apple should have 64gb as the base model? Probably.
Heh, if bickering goes away, the forums would be empty.
I've been penalized for defending myself going back and forth with someone for 3 or 4 posts and was told bickering was against TOS.
That's probably mostly the OS though, as you noted, the iPhone 5 has half the RAM. iOS 8 is probably the worst OS release in the history of Apple. Again, this 16 GB base iPhone is just one piece of the puzzle that leads me to believe something is amiss at Apple. (My *hope* is that is a rough transition and not a trajectory.)
Agree on the phone, disagree on the MBA. For the MBA, it clearly depends on how big one grows their libraries of photos/video/music, etc. 128 GB is plenty for general use. I have a 128 GB Air I use as my work/travel laptop, and still have over half of the storage left free. My wife has a 128 GB MBA with our current photo/music library on it and while it's starting to get a bit tight, it's not full yet. For the iPhone, I think *most* users are going to have a problem with storage, and probably pretty quickly. IMO, that's quite a big difference.
No kidding! Maybe if Apple did their cloud-storge correctly, it would. When Photos launched and I heard about their claims, I actually was quite interested. So, a friend (who was also looking for that kind of solution) and I actually tried it, and couldn't believe Apple implemented it so poorly.
That said, no-one I know of has done it right. Dropbox's photo storage has the same issue, as well as every other I've looked at as well. You'd think *someone* would get this idea of storing it all in the cloud (and maybe a local 'master') and then having a limited set on devices with limited storage. That doesn't seem like rocket-science!
Not at all. It just seems that some people don't consider how Apple is only a business and that its goal is to maximize profit and shareholder return.
While that seems crazy, I suppose that could be the case. I just find it hard to believe a high percentage of smart-phone buyers don't really use the 'smart.' That's a lot of money to waste. Just buy a flip-phone. It makes sense with Android phones where they include a free one with your pizza order... but not for iPhones.
But, the point wouldn't be whether people *can* get by, but whether the *typical* iPhone buyer gets by and doesn't develop a negative impression of Apple that hurts Apple more than the $9 it would cost them to go to 32 GB.
And, I'm pretty sure (from talking to people with 16 GB iPhones), that people have been quite frustrated by this, and that Apple wouldn't stand for that over $9 extra profit (or any price) back in the good-ol days.
Apple needs to make cloud-storage that actually works first. I guess that's a software problem (so could be fixed with the same hardware), but that isn't the point.
The point is user-experience, wherever the users are at because that's the reality which will ultimately affect Apple's future customer-base. If an extra $9 profit now is worth potentially losing sales of iPhone 7, 8, 9 and countless other Apple products, then hurrah Apple, and I'll just have to start looking for an alternative.
Yea, probably.... because Apple spend *DECADES* building that reputation by having, by far, the best products. AND, they could lose that reputation within a year or two if they keep up this kind of stupid @*(.
Nope, they buy the phone that is primarily pushed to them by the telcos where they buy the phones. THEN, they either have a good or bad experience, which weighs into their decision whether to remain an Apple customer or not in the future.
16 GB on a modern iPhone isn't enough storage for a typical user to have a good experience. We're not talking about 16 GB in 2015 in some arbitrary way.
If it were enough, there wouldn't have been so many people not able to upgrade OS versions, and most of the 16 GB iPhone people I run across wouldn't be expressing their disappointment with that aspect. And, I'd probably consider buying a 16 GB model, as I have the technical expertise to manage the storage well (and I don't do a lot of photos and video, or could easily store them in the cloud)... I just realize how tight it would actually be.
Yep, and we're just looking at this a bit more long-term and hoping they KEEP BUYING beyond the 6s. So, no, its actually not quite that simple.
But, all of the options should be up to some level of acceptable user-experience, since that's what Apple's brand reputation is built on. If you give users a sub-par option, especially if it's reasonable to view it as sub-par, it's going to hurt that reputation. That's something that *should* be worth way more to Apple than they are saving/profiting by the difference between 16 GB and 32 GB.
Apple should be deciding, based on user-experience rather than profit margins. And, if user-experience is the driver, then the minimum shouldn't be where *some* users can get by, but where the typical user has a good-experience.
And what I (and I think others) are arguing, is that 32 GB is a point that would give a good experience to the majority of users, whereas 16 GB doesn't, but for a few. And, the cost difference to Apple between the two is very minimal and not worth risking a future sale over.
I could care less what the models cost, having options, or how much storage is supposedly the standard in 2015. I care about what Apple used to care about (and hopefully still does), user-experience. If that lapses, Apple's done because that is what their world-class brand is built on. Their current sales success is in good part based on that reputation.
Pretty much... and that's my fear. The alternative account is that the upper-management transitions have been a bit rough and that what we're seeing with iOS 9 and OS X 10.11 will be Apple recovering and heading back towards it's typical operation again. I guess we'll see. I sure hope it's the latter, but this 16 GB iPhone seems to be data in the former column.
Because I don't really care about your special usage case... I'm looking at the whole world of iPhone buyers (and potential buyers) and the impact on Apple's long-term future. Good user-experience and 'figure out a way to get by with' don't really fit together.
And, most people don't really understand how much storage they are going to need. They buy the phone that's being pushed by the phone shops in the mall or wherever, and those are the 16 GB model. By the time they figure it out, they are locked into a 2-yr contract. That's not a position Apple should want their typical users in.
And worse, I don't think they often even realize it. And, the way the telcos promote and price things, it's a lot more than $100 difference. The only way it's $100 is if you're buying the phone from Apple directly.
I see... well that hasn't been my experience so far, here or on just about any forum on the Net.
I suppose it would be a better place if such moderation were the case, but then I'd expect it to be applied evenly.
Have you considered that their might be other goals for a business than to maximize profit and shareholder return?
(I'm hearing that a lot in the last several years, which is extremely scary if that's what people really believe is the purpose of a business.)
A great many people seem to have a delusion about what Apple Inc. was like in the 'good old days' when the Demigod, Steve Jobs, ran it.