iPhone 6s Puts Focus on Its Cameras With Higher-Quality Photos and Video, Front Flash, and More

[roeiz]

as we've seen a few nice 4K videos and decent photos,
i'm not really worried about the general quality, for my needs.
12mp with the new under the hood tech is enough for me at least.

what i AM worried about is not being able to create shallower DOF..
i didn't see any evidence of even remotely blurred background on any of the videos and photos..
(except extreme close ups of flowers and stuff - which is NOT what i mean).

so maybe i'm not seeing enough stuff from the new camera?
or is it the fact that we cannot manually control the camera to have a little less DOF?

for me this a crucial "DSLR quality" improvement.. hope it's possible somehow.

 

[SD-B]

32gb is still nothing for 4k videos and live photos. 64gb is the bare minimum

I've had 64g on my One Plus One phone for the past year and a half.
I love apple and my husband whose tech allergic can only run an iphone but i cant pay what they want for an iphone when i only make a few calls per month (i hate phones) and only use it for text.......BUT, c'mon, these base 16gb are atrocious in 2015..

 

[TWSS37]

Then maybe you should buy a stand-alone camera.

Why? I already carry around my phone which takes great photos.

 

[TWSS37]

Owns no Apple products...spends hours on Apple sites/forums....posts about non Apple products...rinse and repeat.

Why does what I currently own? Not like it matters, but I have owned several iDevices in the past. Do I meet your qualifications now for being allowed to post on this site? Or do I need to have a current device in order to do so?

 

[Edgar Spayce]

Still a crappy mobile camera.

 

[Speedy Dingo]

Those shots by TIME are terrible. This is WAY better...

 

[Andres Cantu]

Prediction:

There are major camera improvements coming to the iPhone 7, and getting the pixel count up to 12M in the 6s was basically a stepping stone move. Perhaps the entire camera configuration will change, from the lenses all the way down to the size of the sensor itself -- a larger sensor would give us back those larger pixels Apple kept telling us were so important, while a larger lens with a larger aperture would let more light in on those precious pixels for better performance in low light and shallower depth of field when shooting 4K video.

Next year is a banner year for iPhone. Apple's 10th iPhone, running iOS 10 with an A10 chip. They've already made the physical devices bigger. Now they're going to make the features inside the phone bigger than ever before. Bigger camera. And who knows... maybe even a bigger battery?

Ok that last one might be pushing it. But I'm sticking to my guns on the camera. The next iPhone camera is going to be huge, inside and out.

I would only agree with that if they decide to go with that dual-lens idea from the company they acquired a while back. History is not in your side though, because the iPhone 5 and iPhone 6 did not bring huge improvements in camera technology like the "S" models have done (especially the 5 which basically only added the sapphire lens and a better ISP from the A6).

In my opinion, the iPhone 6s should have used an f/2.0 aperture to better compete with other smartphones. I hope they do improve the camera significantly and not wait for the iPhone 7s (perhaps the only improvement will be OIS for the regular iPhone 7?).

 

[GoodWheaties]

Thanks for the heads up. Looks like the current version ProCam 3. Have you used any of the in-app purchase features that are available for the app?

No I haven't had to get any in-app purchases yet. I also think I may have been wrong about changing the MP as well. I think it had it at one point (they had some other things like level-video mode in one of the previous updates but removed it in the name of stability supposedly) but it doesn't have it now

 

[Keirasplace]

I would only agree with that if they decide to go with that dual-lens idea from the company they acquired a while back. History is not in your side though, because the iPhone 5 and iPhone 6 did not bring huge improvements in camera technology like the "S" models have done (especially the 5 which basically only added the sapphire lens and a better ISP from the A6).

In my opinion, the iPhone 6s should have used an f/2.0 aperture to better compete with other smartphones. I hope they do improve the camera significantly and not wait for the iPhone 7s (perhaps the only improvement will be OIS for the regular iPhone 7?).

The "other" smart phones are only "better" right now in static shots in good light; that's it. They'Re slower to focus, slower shot to shot and none even give half as good video as any Iphone (S6 didn't beat the Iphone 6, let alone this one in Video).

Speed is a key thing in any camera, actually getting the shot is the best way to insure your shot is good.

 

[Andres Cantu]

The "other" smart phones are only "better" right now in static shots in good light; that's it. They'Re slower to focus, slower shot to shot and none even give half as good video as any Iphone (S6 didn't beat the Iphone 6, let alone this one in Video).

Speed is a key thing in any camera, actually getting the shot is the best way to insure your shot is good.

You're absolutely correct. I wish people could also focus on that aspect and not just compare static shots online.

 

[msandersen]

as we've seen a few nice 4K videos and decent photos,
i'm not really worried about the general quality, for my needs.
12mp with the new under the hood tech is enough for me at least.

what i AM worried about is not being able to create shallower DOF..
i didn't see any evidence of even remotely blurred background on any of the videos and photos..
(except extreme close ups of flowers and stuff - which is NOT what i mean).

so maybe i'm not seeing enough stuff from the new camera?
or is it the fact that we cannot manually control the camera to have a little less DOF?

for me this a crucial "DSLR quality" improvement.. hope it's possible somehow.

Take it for what it is: A phone camera. It is not a replacement for a dedicated camera with a quality zoom lens and larger sensor. All phones use tiny sensors and lenses to fit into tiny spaces, they are not optimal for photos. The iPhone 6 has a crop factor of about 7.21 with a fixed aperture of f/2.2, as has the 6s, which means a full-frame equivalent of an f/16 aperture. Good for general-purpose photos getting everything in focus, not for shallow DoF. No phone camera can do that except at extreme close range. If you want a camera for other than snaps, get an actual camera.
I'm tempted by the upcoming DxO One which is designed to attach to the iPhone's lightning connector and can swivel, it has a 1" Sony sensor and variable aperture, but no zoom. Downside, it's expensive. But could make for a great street photography camera.

 

[roeiz]

Take it for what it is: A phone camera. It is not a replacement for a dedicated camera with a quality zoom lens and larger sensor. All phones use tiny sensors and lenses to fit into tiny spaces, they are not optimal for photos. The iPhone 6 has a crop factor of about 7.21 with a fixed aperture of f/2.2, as has the 6s, which means a full-frame equivalent of an f/16 aperture. Good for general-purpose photos getting everything in focus, not for shallow DoF. No phone camera can do that except at extreme close range. If you want a camera for other than snaps, get an actual camera.
I'm tempted by the upcoming DxO One which is designed to attach to the iPhone's lightning connector and can swivel, it has a 1" Sony sensor and variable aperture, but no zoom. Downside, it's expensive. But could make for a great street photography camera.

i totally agree with that,
but i DO expect some kind of unknown future inventions to solve that somehow

 

[msandersen]

There has been experiments in making lensless cameras, some quite tiny, but they are experimental and very low res. Other than that, we are limited by the physics of conventional photography and the nature of light and lenses. While new denser materials might make for some interesting lenses in future, and they might well devise tiny variable apertures with much smaller f-stops letting in more light, there are physical limits that we are currently rubbing up against as well. We have gotten used to technology changing fast and appearing magical, but it is in fact ruled by the physical world and its limits. As things get smaller, problems get harder to solve, which takes time and money. The Lumia 1020 phone used a large sensor and massive resolution to create a true digital zoom, a novel solution to the problem of Zoom. But it came with a compromise of size. Maybe if cameras become more important to consumers than a tiny flat profile, we will see more of that in future. Tiny cameras will improve over time. But we live in the here and now. If you wait for the Next Great Thing, you will always be waiting, as there is always a new Next Great Thing coming.

 

[roeiz]

There has been experiments in making lensless cameras, some quite tiny, but they are experimental and very low res. Other than that, we are limited by the physics of conventional photography and the nature of light and lenses. While new denser materials might make for some interesting lenses in future, and they might well devise tiny variable apertures with much smaller f-stops letting in more light, there are physical limits that we are currently rubbing up against as well. We have gotten used to technology changing fast and appearing magical, but it is in fact ruled by the physical world and its limits. As things get smaller, problems get harder to solve, which takes time and money. The Lumia 1020 phone used a large sensor and massive resolution to create a true digital zoom, a novel solution to the problem of Zoom. But it came with a compromise of size. Maybe if cameras become more important to consumers than a tiny flat profile, we will see more of that in future. Tiny cameras will improve over time. But we live in the here and now. If you wait for the Next Great Thing, you will always be waiting, as there is always a new Next Great Thing coming.

that's why i WILL buy the 6S

but a good discussion on things that need fixing.