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They're not very good when you look at the full sized images, so much noise :\

Apple need to put a big camera bump on there like the Nokia 1020 and stick a large sensor in there, not the tiny 1/3 which every phone now has a bigger sensor than that. Sony have a 1/2.2 in the Z5, proves what you can do when your phone is a tad bit thicker.

And people complain about the small lens bump out on the iPhone 6/6S. I can't imagine the level of complaints that will come with a larger bump out.
 
There's a huge rendering issue with that third photo. The camera appears to have turned that poor fellow sideways.

It looks like he just got out of bed and is walking lazily when his buddy snapped a pic and photoshopped him in the air.
 
This is just one example of the very unimpressive images taken with the new iPhone 6S:

http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2015/09/image1.jpg


Zoom in to see the very bad result of aggressive noise cancellation algorithms (due to higher pixel density -> more noise!), resulting in "water paint" photos. And noise can still be seen very clearly in the doggy's fur.

image1.jpg

This has been a problem since they introduced iOS 8... I've been b!tching it since then and some people know what I'm talking about while others say it's fine. I even started a thread on here about it and posted pictures to prove my claim from when my 5S was on iOS 7 compared to shots taken on iOS 8 - Apple dropped the god damn ball on this one.
 
And people complain about the small lens bump out on the iPhone 6/6S. I can't imagine the level of complaints that will come with a larger bump out.
They'll complain initially and fall in love with the quality later for the rest of the time.
 
Interesting, as I am at a point in my life where photo quality is the most important feature in a smartphone.

Then you need to know what's your use case. If you almost always shoot in good light, don't shoot a lot of action shots (were having the quickest focus is important), shoot little video or photo bursts, maybe other phones like the S6 give you a better experience right now.

What's "best" in a camera is not a binary thing, there is shading in cameras and in smart phones.

Even with the S6 out, Iphone was still quoted as the most well rounded camera (all aspects) around. Before last year, other cameras were far behind, now they're pretty close (better in some areas and worse in others).

This camera puts square the Iphone ahead again (which makes sense since its released later) in most areas... Except full daylight static outside shots (enough time to set up the shot), were the S6 would still have the advantage.
 
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Oh it will be improved but you're gonna have to wait until iPhone 7 for that. How do you think apple makes so much money it's definitely not by giving you everything in one package. But instead gimp some stuff here and there and offer the very thing that should've been there in the first place in the following years.

If apple touted their camera at 8MP is worlds best in class and there's just no need to cram more pixels in a tiny sensor (based on their past keynotes) then why up it to 12MP? These guys are world class salesmen. It's a business after all and you won't buy another iPhone if it had everything you wanted right now.

You wait and watch when the iPhone 7 comes out they will probably keep the same 1080p screen. Same 16GB size. It's not until maybe the iPhone 7S or even iPhone 8 they will update the screen resolution and give you 32GB as base size (which I highly doubt since 16GB base makes them a huge margin in profits.)

The most pathetic thing is even with such a great camera, you are not allowed control ISO, shutter speeds, and even image size. You just don't have options with an iPhone :(
I agree they will probably not go past 12MP for a very long time but you are a bit wrong that you can't control settings. Sure in the stock camera app you can't adjust stuff but that's the beauty of apps. I recommend ProCam and you can use it to adjust any setting you want, ISO, shutter speed, image size, even manual focus. Tons of options for video as well. I think it's like $3.99 but I got it free through Starbucks haha.
 
Then you need to know what's your use case. If you almost always shoot in good light, don't shoot a lot of action shots (were having the quickest focus is important), shoot little video or photo bursts, maybe other phones like the S6 give you a better experience right now.

What's "best" in a camera is not a binary thing, there is shading in cameras and in smart phones.

Even with the S6 out, Iphone was still quoted as the most well rounded camera (all aspects) around. Before last year, other cameras were far behind, now they're pretty close (better in some areas and worse in others).

This camera puts square the Iphone ahead again (which makes sense since its released later) in most areas... Except full daylight static outside shots (enough time to set up the shot), were the S6 would still have the advantage.

Thanks. This was more of a reaction though the post I quoted. That being said though, I moved from a Nexus 6 camera (and HTC One and Moto X before that) to a Samsung Note 5, and the difference is pretty spectacular. I've had Samsung devices before and I don't recall them being as good as the N5, both in photo quality and the software used to take the photos. But the difference is night and day.

So for someone to make a blanket statement that boils down to "you're using it wrong" if your main use is photography, that might be right when comparing to high end, expensive equipment, but right now I need my camera to be able to take a great photo in less than a second when my 2 year old starts doing something funny. :)
 
Thanks. This was more of a reaction though the post I quoted. That being said though, I moved from a Nexus 6 camera (and HTC One and Moto X before that) to a Samsung Note 5, and the difference is pretty spectacular. I've had Samsung devices before and I don't recall them being as good as the N5, both in photo quality and the software used to take the photos. But the difference is night and day.

So for someone to make a blanket statement that boils down to "you're using it wrong" if your main use is photography, that might be right when comparing to high end, expensive equipment, but right now I need my camera to be able to take a great photo in less than a second when my 2 year old starts doing something funny. :)

Quick focus, quickness shot to shot, or great video, then maybe is your main use case. In this case I think the Iphone is probably the best bet. Just wait for reviews on photo equipment sites or from people like Anandtech or ArsTechnica (not mass market sites or OS specific sites). If you were doing mostly landscape photos outside, then the Iphone would be merely competitive without being the best.
 
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I agree they will probably not go past 12MP for a very long time but you are a bit wrong that you can't control settings. Sure in the stock camera app you can't adjust stuff but that's the beauty of apps. I recommend ProCam and you can use it to adjust any setting you want, ISO, shutter speed, image size, even manual focus. Tons of options for video as well. I think it's like $3.99 but I got it free through Starbucks haha.

Thanks for the heads up. Looks like the current version ProCam 3. Have you used any of the in-app purchase features that are available for the app?
 
I bought a Nikon DSLR over the summer because I wanted depth that I cannot get out of my iphone. I will wait to see how the new 6s compares, but I assume that the depth issue cannot be addressed by Apple. Otherwise, I may have just bought a camera I don't need. :p

Trust me, the Nikon DSLR will "smoke" any smartphone camera unless you purchased the El Cheap model from an online, grey market, "schlock shop."
 
Some of you folks are beyond dense. The camera on this smartphone is NOT meant to try and compete with a DLSR or Mirrorless or even m43. Good lord, some of you guys just need to get a new hobby or something.

Who is saying it should compete with a DSLR???? For a $1,000 I expect a solid camera, which it is (at least 80%) currently, but there's nothing wrong with asking for it to get better considering it's competition has been constantly improving their cameras. Wheras the iPhone's camera hasn't changed or materially improved in 4 years. I think you are the one who is beyond dense.
 
4K video and live photos on a 16 GB iPhone, that's some great innovation there Apple !..... i'm gonna wait for iPhone 7 where Apple magically upgrade the base model to 32 GB.

Someone did the calculations and that came out to about 30 minutes of 4K video on 16GB.
 
Check out Casey Niestat's VLOG! He shoots the entire thing in 4k!
Great, unfortunately, youtube fails to deliver the data with reasonable speed (took 10 minutes to load 20 seconds of video, and no, it's not my connection), and unfortunately my macbook pro from April this year is struggling real hard with it. Was more like a slideshow for large parts of that video. Plus, it was hardly real 4k, as the compression was too heavy to reproduce any details. And I don't even have a 4k display.
 
... you wouldn't need a £3000 camera! I mean, what's there to take valuable pictures of anyway!
Come live with me in my house in the countryside and tell me that the green, rolling hills and birdsong at dawn is not a valuable picture.
 
I'm switching from a Note 4 to the iPhone 6S. Any noticeable things I will have to learn? Are there any prep items I can do to make the switch easier and faster?
 
Yeah, but most people aren't going to pay $1000-3200 for a full frame mirrorless camera body only, then another $500-1000 for a decent lens that can handle the resolution. I'm one of those people who will, but most people will not.

What is interesting about smartphone photography is that there is a freaking fast computer with advanced software mixed into the equation. It's going to be amazing to see what they can do in the future. Apple bought that company that uses multiple cameras to blend together higher-res photos and simulate DOF effects by measuring the perspective to objects in the offset. I'm really interested to see what that entails.

What's nice about the new iPhone is that I won't feel as guilty if I leave my camera gear behind on short outings with my kid. I can still get decent snapshots and it's far less of a hassle than having to download the RAW files to my rMBP, import to LR, edit, and then share with family and friends on our photostream. I might get better results, but for everyday photos the iPhone is excellent and better than the hassle 75% of the time.

You seem to know what you are talking about and I agree with you. I have the Sony A7R II, which is a fantastic cam, but as you say...I sometimes feel as free as a bird when I don't take my gear out when I'm out with my family for instance. I just then shoot pretty awesome memories with my iphone and I love it. Even the post processing in the camera app is fun and light :)
I find the quality pretty great for a phone. Can't wait for the 6s for even better hassle-less pics, yay.

Yannick
 
That's not how iCloud storage works.

iCloud Photo Library keeps every photo you have synced across all your devices -- iPhone, iPad, iMac, MacBook, etc. If you add a photo to one device, it gets added to all of them. If you remove a photo from one device, it gets removed from all of them, including iCloud itself.

And your point? The file is still stored on iCloud. That's how it's able to be viewed on any device.

iCloud drive works in a similar way. For a file to live in your iCloud drive, it has to first live on your Mac, physically on the hard drive.
Completely incorrect. Check the informational attachment I replied you with. It came directly from Apple's website. You don't need any computer other than your iOS device.

iCloud is not an archival storage solution. It's not a way to save space by getting files into the cloud and off your devices. If anything, with multiple devices it means more of your personal physical space will be used if you implement iCloud.
Completely wrong again. Check the informational attachment I replied you with. Apple's fact sheet disagrees with you.
 

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Thanks. This was more of a reaction though the post I quoted. That being said though, I moved from a Nexus 6 camera (and HTC One and Moto X before that) to a Samsung Note 5, and the difference is pretty spectacular. I've had Samsung devices before and I don't recall them being as good as the N5, both in photo quality and the software used to take the photos. But the difference is night and day.

So for someone to make a blanket statement that boils down to "you're using it wrong" if your main use is photography, that might be right when comparing to high end, expensive equipment, but right now I need my camera to be able to take a great photo in less than a second when my 2 year old starts doing something funny. :)


Owns no Apple products...spends hours on Apple sites/forums....posts about non Apple products...rinse and repeat.
 
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Someone did the calculations and that came out to about 30 minutes of 4K video on 16GB.

Nobody will keep their 4K clips on their phone (unless maybe if they have a 128GB). Those things are made to be shipped out almost as soon as you take them. I don't even keep most of my photos on my phone so...
 
Great, unfortunately, youtube fails to deliver the data with reasonable speed (took 10 minutes to load 20 seconds of video, and no, it's not my connection), and unfortunately my macbook pro from April this year is struggling real hard with it. Was more like a slideshow for large parts of that video. Plus, it was hardly real 4k, as the compression was too heavy to reproduce any details. And I don't even have a 4k display.


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