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I will get the new 6S+ even if it has 1GB of RAM. I suspect that most will too! 95% of the iPhone user base has no idea how much RAM their iPhone has nor do they care.

The iPhone is so successful now that, in order to keep sales accruing, Apple needs that 5%. I think Apple held back on 2 gigs of ram in order to set everybody up for a 6 plus upgrade. More then likely the iPhone 6S will have 2 gigs of ram.
 
The iPhone is so successful now that, in order to keep sales accruing, Apple needs that 5%. I think Apple held back on 2 gigs of ram in order to set everybody up for a 6 plus upgrade. More then likely the iPhone 6S will have 2 gigs of ram.

I agree and it will likely have 2GB but most have no idea or care.

If their phone works they will be happy and move on with life, unlike others who simply can not.
 
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The iPhone is so successful now that, in order to keep sales accruing, Apple needs that 5%. I think Apple held back on 2 gigs of ram in order to set everybody up for a 6 plus upgrade. More then likely the iPhone 6S will have 2 gigs of ram.

It really doesn't need that 5%. In fact, I think 5% is being generous. I'd say the % of people who care about RAM in an iPhone is probably closer to 0.1%. Companies (with sales numbers like the iPhone) don't care about the little percentages.

Why would they hold back on an unpublished feature so that people would want to upgrade to a newer model with another unpublished feature?
 
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It really doesn't need that 5%. In fact, I think 5% is being generous. I'd say the % of people who care about RAM in an iPhone is probably closer to 0.1%. Companies (with sales numbers like the iPhone) don't care about the little percentages.

Why would they hold back on an unpublished feature so that people would want to upgrade to a newer model with another unpublished feature?

Ah, that's easy. You highlight an unpublished feature by publishing it. And you don't need to publish it by including it in your specs, either. You simply add software features like multitasking that will only work with 2 gigs of ram and then you exclude the iPhone 6 and 6 plus from those features. This is just one idea, by the way, there's multiple ways to pull this off.
 
I won't buy another iPhone with 1GB of RAM and if Apple scrape their feet with this and don't include it in the 6S then 2GB might not be sufficient by the time it finally drops. The new Note 5 has 4GB of RAM! The platform jump is looking more appealing by the day and if I do switch it will be RAM that forced the move.
 
If the iPhone 6S has 2GB of RAM, I am upgrading even though I've only had my iPhone 6 for a year.
If it only has 1GB of RAM, I'm delaying my upgrade until next year.

2GB would be an incredible performance improvement. It would make the 6S an amazing phone.
 
Would be nice to have 2gb or RAM, but at the very minimum 1.5gb is needed imo. 1gb is barely adequate on my 6 plus.
 
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I won't buy another iPhone with 1GB of RAM and if Apple scrape their feet with this and don't include it in the 6S then 2GB might not be sufficient by the time it finally drops. The new Note 5 has 4GB of RAM! The platform jump is looking more appealing by the day and if I do switch it will be RAM that forced the move.

worst logic ever. The Note has 4GB of ram because Android needs it. iOS doesn't come close to needing 4GB, nor will it anytime in the foreseeable future. Using your logic, we should all be driving 1000 horsepower cars too, when for the majority of the population, less than 200 is just fine.

I don't understand why people come on an Apple forum to compare products to other manufacturers. If that's what you like, head to an Android forum, and praise them about how wonderful the Note is for having 4GB of ram. Then, you can spend your time complaining in 6 months when the price drops $300, and you can't sell your device for $50 when it's time to upgrade next year, or better yet how you don't have the latest Android update because VZW/Tmo/AT&T/Sprint hasn't approved it yet for your device.
 
worst logic ever. The Note has 4GB of ram because Android needs it. iOS doesn't come close to needing 4GB, nor will it anytime in the foreseeable future. Using your logic, we should all be driving 1000 horsepower cars too, when for the majority of the population, less than 200 is just fine.

I don't understand why people come on an Apple forum to compare products to other manufacturers. If that's what you like, head to an Android forum, and praise them about how wonderful the Note is for having 4GB of ram. Then, you can spend your time complaining in 6 months when the price drops $300, and you can't sell your device for $50 when it's time to upgrade next year, or better yet how you don't have the latest Android update because VZW/Tmo/AT&T/Sprint hasn't approved it yet for your device.

Whatever man. My 6+ has been an underspecced POS since day one and whether you think so or not, it needs more RAM. Even for basic use, let alone 'power users'.
Lollipop doesn't really use much more RAM than KitKat and yet the Note 5 has 4GB of RAM compared to the Note 4 with 3GB. Samsung have upped the spec 12 months later as they should. Apple take note.
 
If this is true, then at least they aren't doing what Motorola does. At least its uniform across models and doesn't differ by internal storage size.

(That's not even a joke, Motorola literally does that. The 8GB G has 1GB RAM, while the 16GB has 2GB)
 
worst logic ever. The Note has 4GB of ram because Android needs it. iOS doesn't come close to needing 4GB, nor will it anytime in the foreseeable future. Using your logic, we should all be driving 1000 horsepower cars too, when for the majority of the population, less than 200 is just fine.

I don't understand why people come on an Apple forum to compare products to other manufacturers. If that's what you like, head to an Android forum, and praise them about how wonderful the Note is for having 4GB of ram. Then, you can spend your time complaining in 6 months when the price drops $300, and you can't sell your device for $50 when it's time to upgrade next year, or better yet how you don't have the latest Android update because VZW/Tmo/AT&T/Sprint hasn't approved it yet for your device.

I don't understand why people defend Apple with the logic that having 1 gig of RAM is a "feature" of the iPhone or something. Like Apple is just so awesome at programming they are limiting the device to 1 gig of RAM just to show off. Let's not pretend that 1 gig of RAM is the same as having 2 gigs. Fact is, no matter how "efficient" IOS is, having 2 gigs of RAM allows people to open up more apps or browser tabs as opposed to less.

Besides, Android might be less efficient then IOS, but with 4 gigs of RAM the Note 4 still has an advantage at this point in terms of memory. Let's not forget that IOS 8 was the crappiest IOS release ever. No, fact is, Apple doesn't deserve a defense right now. Come over to our side and complain about 1 gig of RAM, it's the right thing to do.
 
worst logic ever. The Note has 4GB of ram because Android needs it. iOS doesn't come close to needing 4GB, nor will it anytime in the foreseeable future. Using your logic, we should all be driving 1000 horsepower cars too, when for the majority of the population, less than 200 is just fine.

Stop trying to defend the iPhone having only 1GB of RAM. Do you really use your phone? Do you switch between apps a lot?

For example, I could be using Twitter. Then, I switch over to Alien Blue to read Reddit for a bit. I follow a few links and read them in Safari. When I come back to Twitter, the app has to reload from scratch because it was killed due to lack of memory. With a 2GB iPhone, more apps (a LOT more apps, since you'll be getting more than double the available memory when you consider overhead) will be able to stay resident at a time. Battery life will improve too, because you won't have to be hitting the flash disk (which uses more power) to relaunch the app. It will already be there in RAM.

It's time for 2GB of RAM on iOS devices. The iPad Air 2 has benefited greatly from it. Yes, Android is inefficient and needs 4GB of RAM. iOS is a lot more efficient, that's why it only needs 2GB. ;)

You're spending a lot of time trying to justify mediocrity. We need to move forward! This is the longest amount of time the RAM size of the iPhone has remained unchanged.
 
... browser tabs ...

It has been a while, I was wondering when this would be mentioned again. The standard MacRumors argument.

Will doubling the RAM in your computer automatically solve any freezing you have? Put an iPhone 4S and an iPhone 6 next to each other and see how many apps you can switch between before they reload. See how many tabs you can open before they reload.

There's this weird theory here that doubling the RAM will magically solve all problems - we've had the same debate for years. If you have an extra GB of RAM, that doesn't immediately mean that an extra GB will be available for apps (or god forbid, Safari tabs). There will be larger in-memory caches. The system will move more stuff to memory. Then there's the way apps/the OS is coded. Finally, Apps will get more bloated if devs have more RAM to play with. There's far more to consider than just RAM, as we can see by android devices with 3GB/4GB of RAM that perform worse than the iPhone 6.

The iPad air 2 may have benefited from it, because the iPad has larger assets and whatnot that apps need to keep in memory. iPad apps are generally bigger than their iPhone counterparts.

We have the same argument from pretty much the same members around every iPhone launch. I do hope that Apple up the RAM to 2GB though, simply so the whining will stop.
 
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I can understand arguing for why more ram is not always needed, but more ram will make a difference; it is a fact of the technology. I don't get how that fact can be defended.

Its not just about Safari tabs, that is just the immediate thing that stands out. For people who fill out a lot of forms online or switch between apps and windows to do say for example internet banking exclusively on their phone, it is a handicap to that and similar work flow, and it is a legitimate criticism. Its not "whining"

Apple can more than afford to put more ram in, and it will future proof iPhones much better.

It wasn't that the iPad Air 2 "may" have benefit from it; it did and it was night and day difference. Asset size is all relative, if the 6s has 2GB of RAM, I've no doubt there will be similar positive anecdotal feedback as there was last year when the Air 2 was released.
 
I can understand arguing for why more ram is not always needed, but more ram will make a difference; it is a fact of the technology. I don't get how that fact can be defended.

Its not just about Safari tabs, that is just the immediate thing that stands out. For people who fill out a lot of forms online or switch between apps and windows to do say for example internet banking exclusively on their phone, it is a handicap to that and similar work flow, and it is a legitimate criticism. Its not "whining"

Apple can more than afford to put more ram in, and it will future proof iPhones much better.

It wasn't that the iPad Air 2 "may" have benefit from it; it did and it was night and day difference. Asset size is all relative, if the 6s has 2GB of RAM, I've no doubt there will be similar positive anecdotal feedback as there was last year when the Air 2 was released.

It will make a difference in the short term. I guarantee that next year, we will be here having the exact same argument about 3GB of RAM.

The fact is that 99.999% of all iPhone users couldn't care less how much RAM is in a device. It's just a highly vocal minority that do. Ultimately we can argue until we're blue in the face, it will make no difference. Apple will put in however much Apple put in, and it will sell like it's the best thing since sliced bread whatever they do.
 
It will make a difference in the short term. I guarantee that next year, we will be here having the exact same argument about 3GB of RAM.

The fact is that 99.999% of all iPhone users couldn't care less how much RAM is in a device. It's just a highly vocal minority that do. Ultimately we can argue until we're blue in the face, it will make no difference. Apple will put in however much Apple put in, and it will sell like it's the best thing since sliced bread whatever they do.

I don't disagree that to most users, it is a nonissue, and that the moment 2GB of ram is in people will clamour for 4GB, and 6GB, and so on...but, such is the way of technology.

That said, it will still improve performance. Perhaps not just the short term - consider how many iOS users have devices that use 1GB or less? (All current iPhone users), so its not like suddenly the 2GB optimization train will roll in.

Otherwise, when arguing against more RAM, I would ask why improve anything then? Do 99.9% of iPhone users really care about 64 bit CPUs? Did Apple really need to put 1GB of RAM into the iPhone 5? Or 512MB in the iPhone 4? Or 256MB in the 3GS? Higher resolution screens? Higher capacity batteries?

There were valid criticisms with 256MB of RAM, 512MB of RAM at the time. Similar criticisms can extend to 1GB of RAM in their current phone products. I agree, this is a circular argument but at some point along that path there is truth that improving the RAM does help the Phone, and does make it easier for peoples' experiences with their smart phones.

It is after all, part of the point of the smart phone - to improve work flow; being able to access a fully featured internet browser or locate nearby restaurants for clients, or switch between 2 apps for whatever reasons. Otherwise we could still make calls and send texts on old flip phones...most of the market uses their phones for that at the end of the day anyways.
 
I don't disagree that to most users, it is a nonissue, and that the moment 2GB of ram is in people will clamour for 4GB, and 6GB, and so on...but, such is the way of technology.

That said, it will still improve performance. Perhaps not just the short term - consider how many iOS users have devices that use 1GB or less? (All current iPhone users), so its not like suddenly the 2GB optimization train will roll in.

Otherwise, when arguing against more RAM, I would ask why improve anything then? Do 99.9% of iPhone users really care about 64 bit CPUs? Did Apple really need to put 1GB of RAM into the iPhone 5? Or 512MB in the iPhone 4? Or 256MB in the 3GS? Higher resolution screens? Higher capacity batteries?

There were valid criticisms with 256MB of RAM, 512MB of RAM at the time. Similar criticisms can extend to 1GB of RAM in their current phone products. I agree, this is a circular argument but at some point along that path there is truth that improving the RAM does help the Phone, and does make it easier for peoples' experiences with their smart phones.

It is after all, part of the point of the smart phone - to improve work flow; being able to access a fully featured internet browser or locate nearby restaurants for clients, or switch between 2 apps for whatever reasons. Otherwise we could still make calls and send texts on old flip phones...most of the market uses their phones for that at the end of the day anyways.

Oh I don't disagree - I, for one, would prefer Apple puts 2GB in. I've never said otherwise. What I have an issue with is that everyone seems to think it's a miracle cure for everything (especially safari), and that if it don't have 2GB it's going to be some kind of disaster (rather ironically, a couple of people in this thread who are saying they're not going to upgrade their 6 to a 6S if it hasn't got 2GB of RAM are the same people who said last year they wouldn't buy a 6 if it didn't have 2GB).
 
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My iPad air 2 leaves almost everything open, apps, safari tabs, you name it.
Overall its a better experience.

I noticed that better experience when my friend let me use his iPad Air 2 for about a half hour. My iPad Air could definitely use that extra RAM in some situations and that's the reason I will not purchase any iOS device with only 1GB RAM. Well maybe the ATV 4, but that's it.
 
It will make a difference in the short term. I guarantee that next year, we will be here having the exact same argument about 3GB of RAM.

The fact is that 99.999% of all iPhone users couldn't care less how much RAM is in a device. It's just a highly vocal minority that do. Ultimately we can argue until we're blue in the face, it will make no difference. Apple will put in however much Apple put in, and it will sell like it's the best thing since sliced bread whatever they do.
So I guess it was pointless for Apple to go up to 1 GB from 512 MB when they did, or up to 512 MB from 256 MB? Seems like that kind of logic implies that.

Seems like there are times when it's needed or at least makes sense. Talking about it and thinking that it's the time now, if not even it being overdue, doesn't somehow become useless or something to be frowned upon, especially when it just seems more and more appropriate.
 
I really think Apple will use 2GB RAM with the 6s.
Camera update and force touch alone is not a big enough reason to upgrade for iPhone 6 users.
Double the memory to allow future updates like the picture in picture view similar to the new iPad would entice many users to upgrade or even jump ship from Android if they are heavy multi-tasking users.
 
So I guess it was pointless for Apple to go up to 1 GB from 512 MB when they did, or up to 512 MB from 256 MB? Seems like that kind of logic implies that.

Seems like there are times when it's needed or at least makes sense. Talking about it and thinking that it's the time now, if not even it being overdue, doesn't somehow become useless or something to be frowned upon, especially when it just seems more and more appropriate.

Apple is going to do whatever it thinks is in its best interest, and I hope that boosting the RAM from 1GB to 2GB is what they do. I intend to keep my next phone for several years as I've done my 4S. With that in mind, it will be hard for me to pull the trigger on a $750 6S (64GB) if it has only 1GB.

Having said that, I'm pretty confident the iPhone will get a RAM boost this year.
 
I noticed that better experience when my friend let me use his iPad Air 2 for about a half hour. My iPad Air could definitely use that extra RAM in some situations and that's the reason I will not purchase any iOS device with only 1GB RAM. Well maybe the ATV 4, but that's it.
Yes the apple tv does not need much ram. My apple tv runs fine and its on an A5 chip with 512mb.
 
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It will make a difference in the short term. I guarantee that next year, we will be here having the exact same argument about 3GB of RAM.

The fact is that 99.999% of all iPhone users couldn't care less how much RAM is in a device. It's just a highly vocal minority that do. Ultimately we can argue until we're blue in the face, it will make no difference. Apple will put in however much Apple put in, and it will sell like it's the best thing since sliced bread whatever they do.

I couldn't care less if numpties only use their iPhone for calls and Facebook. I need more RAM and I want more RAM. The 6+ uses more RAM than the two generations older iPhone 5, and yet it has the same amount of RAM fitted. People can moan for 3GB and 4GB but so long as the phone works properly I'm not bothered. It does not work properly with 1GB of RAM.
 
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