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Can I throw it in a cycling jersey pocket and have zero concern for sweat or rain? If I can stop carrying a plastic bag to keep the iPhone in while riding is all I want to know...
 
When the watch was only IPx7 didn't they advertise it as just splash resistant. With the iPhone they have it listed as splash and water resistant even though they are both the same rating. Wonder why the change of wording, or am I remembering it wrong.
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Apple also makes iPhones with hardened glass displays, but if you smash your display that's not covered under warranty. There's no difference here.
True, but they are not advertising the display as meeting a certain standered of impact resistance, like they are for water resistance. At least I've never seen an impact resistance rating listed.
 
Samsung doesn't cover their phones under the normal warranty for water damage. Same thing with the Active phones. They will cover it if you pay for the accidental warranty coverage.

Just like what Apple is doing...

Actually Samsung replaced my S7 edge from water damage, again could be case by cases bases.
 
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Lol, can't wait for the first lawsuit. Advertise a product as water and dust resistant, but don't cover it under warranty if it fails.

Easy.

"We said water resistant, not waterproof. It just means your phone is less likely to be damaged, that's all."
 
I hope this will be made clear to people, if they feel the need to mention that gloss will show up marks, goodness knows this will need a notice like you get on UK cigerate boxes.
 
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Wonder why the change of wording, or am I remembering it wrong.
I believe they didn't want people to swim actively with the watch, and that the typical wording in watch ads and specs are different, so customers would have other expectations.
 
courage my ass. If they believed in the advertised feature, they'd cover it.
The thing is, Apple is correctly advertising the feature to be water "resistant" instead of "proof". That means it can resist the ingress of liquid for the IP certified duration (1m submersion for 30 minutes) at the time of manufacturing, but will not be uncertain otherwise, hence not "proof". It would be hard to tell if the customer went beyond that range or if the product became degraded somehow during its usage if the water did seep in. I'm sure it'll be covered by the accidental damage clause in AppleCare+, but just that. Now, if you could prove that it failed even under the certified conditions (like Galaxy S7 Active) maybe you could have a leverage.
 
Maybe someone can assist. I use my phone mounted on my motorcycle. I currently have a case that i put it in when i go on long trips so I don't have to pull over and worry about the phone if i get caught in rain. The cases are terrible for usability and I have tried a number of different options. The main reason I want water resistance is to not have to worry about rain getting into the phone when used this way. It is mounted behind a windscreen so I am not worried about "driving" rain but it is likely more than a "splash." I looked into the ratings but it was unclear to me if rain is one of the test conditions used to get the rating or it they just set the device in a bowl of water in a lab and even a drop into water will exceed the rating. Thoughts on this?
 
The cover glass is scratch and shatter resistant, but scratching or breaking the screen won't get you a new phone under the warranty. This is exactly the same.

How are people outraged or surprised by this? This shouldn't even be a headline
 
Why would they cover water damage? Doing so opens it up to all sorts of abuse.

Statement in the Apple Store: "I was just walking to my car when it started raining and my phone stopped working." What actually happened: "I spent the day at the beach with my phone submersed while I took pictures of sea urchins."
 
I think the IP67X rating is for sure welcomed. But I usually take care of my iPhone's when near water. But there is always that situation when we least expect it. Mainly in the rain or snow in my climate.
 
The IP rating is a welcomed feature for sure. We have been incredibly lucky in the past with close calls with liquids. Most recently my wife dropped her two month old 6s into a full bathtub, and it survived unscathed. Having the poece of mind that if that were to happen again the chances of damage are far reduced will certainly bring us piece of mind.
 
I think the IP67X rating is for sure welcomed. But I usually take care of my iPhone's when near water. But there is always that situation when we least expect it. Mainly in the rain or snow in my climate.
Ditto here. The rating is sufficient for my needs. I just need it to resist a few drops of water or snowflakes here and there. I don't intend to take pictures of sea urchins while scuba diving. lol...that post a few posts up made me laugh.
 
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I think the IP67X rating is for sure welcomed. But I usually take care of my iPhone's when near water. But there is always that situation when we least expect it. Mainly in the rain or snow in my climate.

I think it will be the most useful use case. I live in a very rainy place and i have always carried a double seal IKEA plastic bag :D for my iPhone.
 
I think it will be the most useful use case. I live in a very rainy place and i have always carried a double seal IKEA plastic bag :D for my iPhone.
Yeah, we've had a lot of sudden heavy rains where I live. I have had to baby my SE. I was thinking of trading my 6S Plus for a Galaxy S7. I'd prefer to stick with Android and I really am hopping mad about the headphone jack being removed. But I was trying to take some pics of my daughter in indoor lighting in my kitchen and it couldn't get her in focus through four out of five shots. My SE managed to get her in focus but the pics were dark. I found myself thinking of what the iPhone 7 could do in the same conditions.

The Galaxy S series cameras are amazing and can get low light shots that are hopeless for my iPhones. But there are certain conditions in which my humble SE can kick their tails and indoor photos in incandescent lighting with slightly moving subjects is one of those conditions.
 
The OP's claim appears suspicious. If it's advertised and sold with an IP67 rating and it incurs water ingress within the scope of the IP67 rating (a depth of 1 meter for 30 minutes), then they're obligated to repair it under warranty.

This is really no different from the IPX7-rated Apple Watch, and plenty of MR customers have swapped out their water-damaged AWs (due to a manufacturing defect) under the standard warranty without paying the AC+ deductible.
 
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