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iPhone 7 and 7 Plus are IP67 Water Resistant, But Water Damage Isn't Covered Under Warranty
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No don't believe so
I'm sorry to say it but if I get caught in a light snow or rain shower where the phone is ONLY splashed and legit didn't do a single thing outside what the phone IS ADVERTISED TO WITHSTAND and failure happens you best believe they better be covering legitimate claims or I'll gladly for once join any class action brought against them
Don't advertise or boast a water resistance and it's WR Rating and not be prepared to backup and stand by those claims
Again I've no plans to use it in or around water but if failure happens under "light dust or light splashing" don't screw over the consumer that's all I have to say about that from my standpoint
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That's a BS "standard policy" especially if failure or damages can be proven to occur within advertised rated use
In other words don't advertise a rating of 7 or 8 then break at a 3 or 4 and say nope not covered
The ratings are quite specific. The issue here is that the policy to deny warranty coverage for water damage. Water damage can be from intentional damage. Eg. opening the sim slot and submersing the phone into water, or putting the phone into a jacuzzi longer than what its rated for.
What will come in play is the common sense of consumers and common sense of the support people/genius. Based on what I have experienced with Apple, I tend to have faith that they will ensure proper support. Contrary to Sony that refuse to even look at my Z1 just because it's not a local SKU.
Had you seen the rest of my other post I was specifically stating a case where one can prove they stayed well within rating limits. Most specifically if a device is just "lightly splashed" and has issues or the off chance it lightly snows or rains when you're near the Apple Store. Some reasonable case by case exceptions and the common sense you mentioned should apply or as other posters mentioned you'll most assuredly find another lawsuit or class action suit awaiting you eventually
General point is I hope the device lives up to the advertising and should a failure or damage occur where advertising clearly states it should NOT occur they're prepared to standby what the product promises
( again by no means am I planning to or expect to use the phone intentionally near water )
This is my line of thought as well. I am not planning to swim with the phone but do look forward to having my phone in my jersey pocket without a ziplock. I have cut rides short with a threat of rain when I left without my phone covered. I take this water resistance as something that will resist sweat and rain with little to no issue.
That makes sense to me from a marketing and support aspect. They're still not going to cover water damage, but they did make less susceptible to it thus decreasing the likelihood that it will get damaged.
I must be missing something here..
I think what we have established here is people do not understand the difference between Warranty and Insurance/Cover.
No way on this earth is something that is caused by the user of the product/item going to be covered under it's manufacturers warranty. Lets take a Car for example. They say every model update is more secure, safer and stronger. Lets say we are driving down the motorway and decide to act like morons and wrap it round the no entry sign ahead. Who do we call on ladies and gents? Your insurance (yes that horrible thing that we all moan about paying for but actually saves our arses.). You cannot simply turn round to your car manufacturer and say. "I don't know how it happened, one minute I was driving and the next thing I know boom! this damage just came from planet mars and ruined my whole day. Its still under warranty, can you fix it?"
Apple has clearly stated that the iPhone 7 is Water Resistant. Water resistant means within means. If you like practicing how long you can hold your breath for in water with your 7 in your pocket, then scream water damage at Apple, you are nothing but a sap, I'm sorry.
If you want to cover yourself against that....buy AppleCare +. That is what it is there for.
Warranty: Problems that occur that are out of your control and are caused by faulty parts or bad workmanship.
Insurance: Additional cover that covers your device from Damage caused by yourself or someone else and theft depending on the insurer.
*Don't take any offence from what I have written. It is purely for entertainment purposes only*
I think what we have established here is people do not understand the difference between Warranty and Insurance/Cover.
No way on this earth is something that is caused by the user of the product/item going to be covered under it's manufacturers warranty. Lets take a Car for example. They say every model update is more secure, safer and stronger. Lets say we are driving down the motorway and decide to act like morons and wrap it round the no entry sign ahead. Who do we call on ladies and gents? Your insurance (yes that horrible thing that we all moan about paying for but actually saves our arses.). You cannot simply turn round to your car manufacturer and say. "I don't know how it happened, one minute I was driving and the next thing I know boom! this damage just came from planet mars and ruined my whole day. Its still under warranty, can you fix it?"
Apple has clearly stated that the iPhone 7 is Water Resistant. Water resistant means within means. If you like practicing how long you can hold your breath for in water with your 7 in your pocket, then scream water damage at Apple, you are nothing but a sap, I'm sorry.
If you want to cover yourself against that....buy AppleCare +. That is what it is there for.
Warranty: Problems that occur that are out of your control and are caused by faulty parts or bad workmanship.
Insurance: Additional cover that covers your device from Damage caused by yourself or someone else and theft depending on the insurer.
*Don't take any offence from what I have written. It is purely for entertainment purposes only*
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While I agree with what you are saying 100% the phone is water resistant. If the phone falls in the pool for a few seconds, not few minutes, but a few seconds and then suffers water damage, there is a problem. That should be covered under warranty because clearly the seals within the phone did not hold up.
In all fairness, I completely agree. The problem is proving this to Apple that it was indeed the case. There is no doubt that there is a chance this could happen, if maybe the technology that makes it water resistant isn't up to standard. I think it's one of those things where, if a certain percentage of users report that they are having severe issues in minimal amounts of water, Apple will recognise it and act via a warranty replacement program. I think water damaging anything is a hit and miss when it comes to warranty. I think if the term "water proof" was used, you may see it as a warranty case.
Good point
Yet the language in Apple's disclaimer implies that they won't cover water damage caused by manufacturing defects under warranty at all. This is misleading and I'll explain why.
Apple also has a disclaimer that submerging the IPX7-rated Apple Watch is "not recommended," yet they regularly swap out water-damaged AWs under warranty all the time. If someone were to take their disclaimer literally, one would think they wouldn't warranty water-damaged AWs because they've clearly stated that they are not to be submerged. However, this is merely a scare tactic to discourage customers from submerging it, as many customers will heed this "just because Apple says so." Same thing as Apple's disclaimer that liquid damage in iPhone 7/7+ will not be covered under warranty. It's nothing more than a scare tactic.
Unlike "scratch- and shatter-resistant" which isn't defined, IP standards are clearly defined and Apple cannot legally advertise and sell the AW or iPhone 7 and deny a warranty claim as long as it incurs water ingress within the scope of the advertised IP rating.
Don't be deceived. Now you know.
This is my hope too and what I was aiming for when debating and griping about the "No water damage coverage"
I'll be damned ( and hope others feel the same ) if they boast an IP rating, "water and dust resistant" , "splash safe"
and the like and yet it should fail in light rain, sprinkle or from a droplet of sweat or 1 or 2 snowflakes in the winter since the phone is releasing and typically shipping right before or at the start of winter for some
Depends on the weather situation
Now say a full blown storm, or torrential downpour you best believe I'm protect it like it was the most fragile phone ever
Which is Bull****
Coverage in limited case by case basis such as the aforementioned should be taken into account hence why I fear some posters may be right about the lawsuits which if any come forth could hold at least some minimal merrit
When you get into advertising Water Resistance ( or water proof tho not the case here ) you kinda set yourself up for a slippery slope and then saying no coverage could be at best seen as a questionable potentially shady or poor business practice especially should legitimate failures occur under normal use or use advertised as "oh hey yea sure your phone can do that and be A-Ok"