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About time apple ! There was no other reason for them not adding it other than stinginess.
 
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They aren't. The 6s takes great photos, not just IMHO, but by every expert reviewer. Now the rumors are that the next model will have an even better camera with OIS and even better low light and other improvements. So you will get a terrific camera regardless of which camera you choose.

No. It is something to complain about if there was no valid technical reason that they excluded it. Live photos and videos are infinitely better with OIS.
 
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Come on, you know the Macrumors forum rules!!

"If Apple is first, it's because they are pioneers. Everyone else will now copy."

"If Apple is second, it's because others rushed to beat Apple whilst Apple are making sure it is done right first before it is released."

Those aren't the MR forum rules. They're more like:

A) Apple is too slow
B) When Apple introduces something first, it's useless
C) Tim Cook somehow needs to be fired for this
 
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I think they only reason why they added it this year is because their adding the dual camera to the plus model.
Otherwise they would have put OIS in the 4.7 model last year.
 
As a casual, amateur, everyday person who takes only a few photos here and there, and are usually for utility purposes, I am simply amazed at the quality and tiny size of the camera's on the iPhone, and other phones too.

I can only welcome additional improvements, like this, which make the photos I take just a little bit better.
I'm with you, but for comfort, remember, most important part of the camera is the eye behind it.
 
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Welcome to 2010, Apple and Apple users. Genuinely happy that you guys get to enjoy tech Samsung users have had for years. Next will be OLED—in 2018, only on Plus models. Then maybe a finger print sensor that actually works in 2020. Then waterproofing in 2035. Then maybe you guys will enjoy better battery life by 2049.

And just as you're getting eye tracking like Smart Scroll and not stupid innovations like 3D Touch, maybe Apple will bump up the storage from 16 GB.

But I'm sure Apple will still ship 5200 RPM drives.

While I would like to see OLED, waterproofing and better battery life, your remark about the iPhone fingerprint sensor is way off base. Touch ID works incredibly well, and it did way before Samsung got their **** together with the fingerprint sensor. 3D Touch has a long way to go before its truly useful, but I hope you're not seriously trying to say that Smart Scroll is anything but a gimmick.
 
Fragmentation? Please. Have you looked inside the iPhone 6 or iPhone 6s? There was/is simply no room for OIS in both models. Now the headphone jack's been removed that's freed up a LOT of space allowing them to add it to the 4.7-inch models. The dual-camera obviously takes up more room.

My Nexus 5 had OIS and it was old technology then!! Freeing up space has nothing to do with it.
It's all in the camera module itself and incase it escaped anyone's attention the standard and the Plus phones are the same thickness!

Meh who cares anyway, about damn time the smaller iPhone got some camera love, I'm not convinced by this dual lens tech anyway, I haven't read reviews of the phones that have it though?
IF the 4.7" does get OIS (4 tiny slots on a rumoured camera module hasn't completely sold me), then I shall read it's camera tests with great interest....
 
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I could not hear anything, I don't know where to plug my headphones!
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They aren't. The 6s takes great photos, not just IMHO, but by every expert reviewer. Now the rumors are that the next model will have an even better camera with OIS and even better low light and other improvements. So you will get a terrific camera regardless of which camera you choose.
Well yeah of course the smaller phone still takes great photos, but those same 'expert reviewers' also say that the Plus always takes even greater ones, which is true. It's kinda like gold and silver. Silver is pretty good, but gold is even better.
 
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Imagine stabilization, but larger camera bump and no headphone jack? One step forward, two steps back.

Image stabilization should have been standard on the iPhone 6; I can't wait to hear how they're going to spin this one. :rolleyes:
 
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YES! I'm downsizing from the plus model to the 4.7" next month and I really didn't want to lose OIS. I hope it is for photo and video!
 
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i hope the OIS is not the only camera module upgrade when compared to the 6s. i'd like to have better quality too!
Me too. All improvement is good to have, but a bigger sensor and brighter lens could also improve sensitivity for low light photography, dynamic range for daylight photo and definition (less diffraction limited)
 
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Is this just for photos? Or is it video OIS?
I'm hoping for both. I think the only limiting factor is software and now that they've released that on the 6S+ I don't see why they wouldn't give it to people buying the 7. I'm sure there are some people that have the 6S+ and want a smaller phone. They might hesitate buying the new 4.7" iPhone 7 if it lacked OIS on video.

Just yesterday I was struggling with the fact that I want the 4.7" iPhone 7 but don't want to lose OIS even though I only have it for photos.
[doublepost=1471550058][/doublepost]Any thoughts on why the purported iPhone 7 camera is lacking the Apple logo on the ribbon when all 4 other cameras have it?

I really hope this isn't fake.
 
....:rolleyes:

The Plus model is larger and more expensive. 2 reasons why is qualifies for more features than the 4.7".

Apple engineering have now had 2 years to redesign both the internal structure of the 4.7" and the camera module itself so that Optical is now possible in the small form. Meanwhile, the new Plus will be getting its own major new camera system that is appropriate for its size and cost.

These things are not complicated....for people capable of critical thinking.

You're missing the point. The OP is correct in chastising Apple for unnecessarily making the 4.7" phone a second class citizen. One would assume that the higher price for the 5.5 model comes from the fact that it:

A. Has a larger, thus more expensive screen,

and

B. Is large enough to accommodate an OIS camera, thereby the hardware for said camera costs more.


I can live with Apple putting tech in the larger phone because it will hold it physically and the smaller one can't. But, as the OP stated there are a bunch of us out there. A BUNCH of us who would want our 4.7" phone to be top of the line spec-wise, and would pay extra for that if necessary.
 
No headjack, not buying...

I think Apple will release high quality streaming on apple music along with the iphone. The current iphones can't play that type of high end quality audio files because of the DA converter. Without the old analog headphone-jack they can put in a high-end converter for this and maybe it is one of the features "we can't live without". The lightning-mini jack adapter will need to have a DA converting included and will probably cost a lot more then people think is reasonable.
 
Fragmentation? Please. Have you looked inside the iPhone 6 or iPhone 6s? There was/is simply no room for OIS in both models. Now the headphone jack's been removed that's freed up a LOT of space allowing them to add it to the 4.7-inch models. The dual-camera obviously takes up more room.
I never said there was space inside... I don't see why your post has any relevance to what I said.
Although having said that, it could have been done. The headphone jack doesn't take up much space, but the space that it does free up is rumored to be used by a larger battery.
 
Ironically the 'purported iPhone 7' camera module photo looks the blurriest to me... :D

This is good news I guess, for those planning to buy an iPhone 7. I wonder if the iPhone 8 in 4.7 inches will get the dual lenses of the iPhone 7Plus?
Possibly, though it might not be 4.7" anymore. Some rumours talk about smaller bezels which could allow for a larger display within the same footprint.
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Yep. The 4.7 incher would likely need to be thicker to house the dual lens camera. Not a problem for most people, in fact I'll bet if it were thicker with a curved back then it would fit in the hand better. But Ive doesn't do ergonomics, he knows only thinner and simpler. <sigh>
There have been reports that the iPhone 6 series got rounded edges because a phone its size would be harder to handhold with the flat edges of the iPhone 4 & 5. But I guess these reports must be wrong because Apple doesn't do ergonomics.
 
I would be happy with a thicker phone if I could have a camera with some sort of optical zoom for both photos and video. Icing on the cake would be ability to have better depth of field control. Thicker phone would also allow for bigger battery and longer charge.
 
I would be happy with a thicker phone if I could have a camera with some sort of optical zoom for both photos and video. Icing on the cake would be ability to have better depth of field control. Thicker phone would also allow for bigger battery and longer charge.
Zoom from traditional compact camera would result in 3x thicker phone, plus 1stop light loss so worse in low light.
We will see if dual camera allows some kind of zoom.
 
This shouldn't be a surprise they were holding this feature back on 6 & 6s until sales started declining...enter iPhone 7
 
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I never said there was space inside... I don't see why your post has any relevance to what I said.
Although having said that, it could have been done. The headphone jack doesn't take up much space, but the space that it does free up is rumored to be used by a larger battery.

I know. Your post was about fragmentation. Having two different devices with two different camera's isn't fragmentation!

Anyway, this is the space they've saved by removing the headphone jack:

http://media.idownloadblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/iPhone-6s-headphone-jack.jpeg
 
I know. Your post was about fragmentation. Having two different devices with two different camera's isn't fragmentation!

Anyway, this is the space they've saved by removing the headphone jack:

http://media.idownloadblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/iPhone-6s-headphone-jack.jpeg
It wouldn't be if they were separate devices, but they're supposed to be 1 device, iPhone, but in 2 sizes. Similar to what the iPad Pros are, rather than the iPad Pro compared to the iPad mini. OIS on the Plus only wasn't a major difference, but a dual camera would be.

I am well aware of the space saved my the headphone jack, but it isn't a lot if your also going to be increasing the battery capacity. It could have been done with the 6S with some tweaking of components and maybe a larger camera bump.
 
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