They aren't. The 6s takes great photos, not just IMHO, but by every expert reviewer. Now the rumors are that the next model will have an even better camera with OIS and even better low light and other improvements. So you will get a terrific camera regardless of which camera you choose.
Come on, you know the Macrumors forum rules!!
"If Apple is first, it's because they are pioneers. Everyone else will now copy."
"If Apple is second, it's because others rushed to beat Apple whilst Apple are making sure it is done right first before it is released."
I'm with you, but for comfort, remember, most important part of the camera is the eye behind it.As a casual, amateur, everyday person who takes only a few photos here and there, and are usually for utility purposes, I am simply amazed at the quality and tiny size of the camera's on the iPhone, and other phones too.
I can only welcome additional improvements, like this, which make the photos I take just a little bit better.
Welcome to 2010, Apple and Apple users. Genuinely happy that you guys get to enjoy tech Samsung users have had for years. Next will be OLED—in 2018, only on Plus models. Then maybe a finger print sensor that actually works in 2020. Then waterproofing in 2035. Then maybe you guys will enjoy better battery life by 2049.
And just as you're getting eye tracking like Smart Scroll and not stupid innovations like 3D Touch, maybe Apple will bump up the storage from 16 GB.
But I'm sure Apple will still ship 5200 RPM drives.
Fragmentation? Please. Have you looked inside the iPhone 6 or iPhone 6s? There was/is simply no room for OIS in both models. Now the headphone jack's been removed that's freed up a LOT of space allowing them to add it to the 4.7-inch models. The dual-camera obviously takes up more room.
I could not hear anything, I don't know where to plug my headphones!
Well yeah of course the smaller phone still takes great photos, but those same 'expert reviewers' also say that the Plus always takes even greater ones, which is true. It's kinda like gold and silver. Silver is pretty good, but gold is even better.They aren't. The 6s takes great photos, not just IMHO, but by every expert reviewer. Now the rumors are that the next model will have an even better camera with OIS and even better low light and other improvements. So you will get a terrific camera regardless of which camera you choose.
Me too. All improvement is good to have, but a bigger sensor and brighter lens could also improve sensitivity for low light photography, dynamic range for daylight photo and definition (less diffraction limited)i hope the OIS is not the only camera module upgrade when compared to the 6s. i'd like to have better quality too!
I'm hoping for both. I think the only limiting factor is software and now that they've released that on the 6S+ I don't see why they wouldn't give it to people buying the 7. I'm sure there are some people that have the 6S+ and want a smaller phone. They might hesitate buying the new 4.7" iPhone 7 if it lacked OIS on video.Is this just for photos? Or is it video OIS?
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The Plus model is larger and more expensive. 2 reasons why is qualifies for more features than the 4.7".
Apple engineering have now had 2 years to redesign both the internal structure of the 4.7" and the camera module itself so that Optical is now possible in the small form. Meanwhile, the new Plus will be getting its own major new camera system that is appropriate for its size and cost.
These things are not complicated....for people capable of critical thinking.
No headjack, not buying...
I never said there was space inside... I don't see why your post has any relevance to what I said.Fragmentation? Please. Have you looked inside the iPhone 6 or iPhone 6s? There was/is simply no room for OIS in both models. Now the headphone jack's been removed that's freed up a LOT of space allowing them to add it to the 4.7-inch models. The dual-camera obviously takes up more room.
Possibly, though it might not be 4.7" anymore. Some rumours talk about smaller bezels which could allow for a larger display within the same footprint.Ironically the 'purported iPhone 7' camera module photo looks the blurriest to me...
This is good news I guess, for those planning to buy an iPhone 7. I wonder if the iPhone 8 in 4.7 inches will get the dual lenses of the iPhone 7Plus?
There have been reports that the iPhone 6 series got rounded edges because a phone its size would be harder to handhold with the flat edges of the iPhone 4 & 5. But I guess these reports must be wrong because Apple doesn't do ergonomics.Yep. The 4.7 incher would likely need to be thicker to house the dual lens camera. Not a problem for most people, in fact I'll bet if it were thicker with a curved back then it would fit in the hand better. But Ive doesn't do ergonomics, he knows only thinner and simpler. <sigh>
Zoom from traditional compact camera would result in 3x thicker phone, plus 1stop light loss so worse in low light.I would be happy with a thicker phone if I could have a camera with some sort of optical zoom for both photos and video. Icing on the cake would be ability to have better depth of field control. Thicker phone would also allow for bigger battery and longer charge.
I never said there was space inside... I don't see why your post has any relevance to what I said.
Although having said that, it could have been done. The headphone jack doesn't take up much space, but the space that it does free up is rumored to be used by a larger battery.
It wouldn't be if they were separate devices, but they're supposed to be 1 device, iPhone, but in 2 sizes. Similar to what the iPad Pros are, rather than the iPad Pro compared to the iPad mini. OIS on the Plus only wasn't a major difference, but a dual camera would be.I know. Your post was about fragmentation. Having two different devices with two different camera's isn't fragmentation!
Anyway, this is the space they've saved by removing the headphone jack:
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