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I care more about dual camera for now than for the removal of headphones jack. Considering current Apple management who knows what the next iPhone will be, maybe they'll return back to single camera which is unlikely but won't surprise me at all.

If they manage to do something clever with dual camera like 3D shooting and refocusing then I'm in. If all they have is dumb "zoom" feature then it'll be the first iPhone that looks and feels like a cheap Chinese gimmick - old design, no headphones jack and dual camera added just for the cool factor.

I want both sensors to be exactly the same... and they use the data from both sensors to be composited together to capture more detail and reduce noise.

There are some amazing examples of this in other areas.

3D, refocusing, or two different focal lengths doesn't really excite me.
 
So since Android is the first to do it then that means no one will be bitching if Apple does it?
 
I want both sensors to be exactly the same... and they use the data from both sensors to be composited together to capture more detail and reduce noise.

There are some amazing examples of this in other areas.

3D, refocusing, or two different focal lengths doesn't really excite me.
If sensors are the same then all of the above will be possible. I'm hoping for the same. But recently there was a patent from Apple depicting the zoom feature achieved by using two different cameras...
 
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I have a significant number of headphones as I like to just grab a pair when I leave and also have a few sitting in coats and bags so that when I forget to grab one I have a chance of having one already with me. Since I listen to my phone every day on my way to and from work, and I don't want to replace half a dozen headphones, this will be an issue for me. Now if someone can make a cheap adapter that just sticks on the end of my headphone and which I plug into my phone, then no problem. I will buy a half dozen or so adapters and just leave them permanently attached to my headphones. If it can be made small, then this might just extend the connector of the headphone by an inch and it won't look bad or get in the way.

But if each adapter is $30 or so (and presumably decent lightning headphones will also be selling at premium), I'm going to be a bit stuck and slightly less likely to upgrade from my 6s.
 
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All headphone manufacturers will be making USB-C headphones by this time next year.

This is finally one port to rule them all. I've been waiting since the 1970s to have to only have one kind of cable. It took forty years. Hooray!
Except Apple will be using Lightning, I can guarantee it. That brings up complications like do you buy USB or Lightning-cabled headphones? And even if you choose one, you're going to be buying adapters for the cable, which means you're either getting lightning-to-USB (most likely) or USB-to-lightning port (less likely since only iPhones use Lightning), and even adapters for older 3.5mm ports. Also another issue with USB-C headphones is you're taking up a USB slot, which could be used for something else, and ultimately could have been avoided just by staying 3.5mm... and I can't imagine all manufacturers dropping the 3.5mm port immediately. The only other solution is wireless, but try with a straight face to tell that to anyone who cares even remotely about audio quality. Not to mention there's no real sound advantage to either new plug, and the only advantage it does have is in Apple marketing.
 
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cool, looks like ill stick to my 6 another year. i am not spending that kind of money on the same design twice out of principal. specs on the iPhone 6 is plenty enough. i just want a fresh looking phone!
 
Lightning is already capable of analogue audio. If Apple wanted to go that route they would, and they would have done it with the 30-pin to Lightning adapters rather than including DACs and amps. But why would they? That's as bad as customer's being forced to buy that $10 adapter for the original iPhone so that non-Apple headphones could be used with it, without offering any improvement. Talk about a money grab.

USB-C is not the answer -- that would force 200 million iOS customers to run out and buy new cables and adapters for their devices. And for what? To accommodate cheaper adapters for customers who don't want to move forward with new technology? Not likely.

Lightning only has line level analog audio out. It cannot power standard headphones.

USB-C can power plain earbuds with only a connector change.

Lightning earbuds would be super expensive because they'd have to have amplification circuitry powered by the phone. That's never going to happen. Expensive Bluetooth buds in the box isn't going to happen either.

This is Apple after all. They're never going to put buds in the box that cost more than a dollar to make.

USB-C is cheapest solution.

Apple will pick cheapest solution.
 
What are those other areas?

There are examples where someone took multiple images from a DSLR and combined them in Photoshop using a process called "Median Stacking"

Basically... each image has different noise patterns. And with multiple images... you can analyze each image... figure out what the noise is... and filter it out.

A similar process could be applied to multiple images captured simultaneously from dual iPhone cameras.

And then there was that crazy concept camera with 16 lenses and sensors :)
 
Bluetooth headphones suck;

Garbage sound quality, constant need to recharge, drains battery life on the phone too.
New Bose SoundSports are amazing. No quality loss at all. Your battery life is gonna drain just from playing music, so, what's the difference? A couple (literally like 2) % points is nothing unless you have to have 50%+ to be able to go to sleep at night or some other bs. Wireless Beats are terrible, I will say, though. They're a joke in the headphone market, wired or wireless.
 
I really don't care about the different or same sized case. "What" is different about the functionality/features of the phone? That's what's going to make my hands move to my wallet. Could care less about dimensions.
 
There are examples where someone took multiple images from a DSLR and combined them in Photoshop using a process called "Median Stacking"

Basically... each image has different noise patterns. And with multiple images... you can analyze each image... figure out what the noise is... and filter it out.

A similar process could be applied to multiple images captured simultaneously from dual iPhone cameras.

And then there was that crazy concept camera with 16 lenses and sensors :)

That 16 lens camera blows my mind.
 
This 3 year iPhone design cycle is nothing new. Indeed, 4,4S,5, 5S had nearly identical design, with only some minor tweaks and for 5 series an elongated screen, but thats it.
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My phone is charging and plugged into various speaker systems all the time. TONS of people do this at work. Millions of phones, iPhones and Android are doing it this very moment.

Agreed, and don't forget, there are many other devices, External Mic's, Card Readers, Wind Meters etc. that all use the headphone jack.

I won't buy another iPhone if they pull this stunt. No everyone just uses Bluetooth headsets. Plus the whole keeping the phone on charge while using the headphone jack is also a very nice option.

Apple is losing touch.
 
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So what's a membership give anyone outside of the US and Canada, exclusion from member only giveaways only available in the US and Canada?
 
That is a really meh upgrade if it holds true for a Number model and not an s model... Come on apple.
 
There are examples where someone took multiple images from a DSLR and combined them in Photoshop using a process called "Median Stacking"

Basically... each image has different noise patterns. And with multiple images... you can analyze each image... figure out what the noise is... and filter it out.

A similar process could be applied to multiple images captured simultaneously from dual iPhone cameras.

And then there was that crazy concept camera with 16 lenses and sensors :)
Yes, that camera was cool. :)
 
Agreed, and don't forget, there are many other devices, External Mic's, Card Readers, Wind Meters etc. that all use the headphone jack.

I won't buy another iPhone if they pull this stunt. No everyone just uses Bluetooth headsets. Plus the whole keeping the phone on charge while using the headphone jack is also a very nice option.

Apple is losing touch.

You may be right about external mics (never heard about wind meters for iphone though). I guess you still can use your windmeters with an adaptor. Or are you using them like 24/7?
 



With only three months to go until the launch of the iPhone 7 and the iPhone 7 Plus, case makers have already started creating cases for the two devices based on rumored specifications. We were able to get our hands on a set of iPhone 7 cases, so we did a comparison video to see how it measures up to the iPhone 6.

Early iPhone cases are always built on specifications gleaned from rumors, supply chain information, and other third-party sources, and oftentimes, they're an accurate representation of what we can expect a next-generation iPhone to look like.

Cases aren't always spot on because they're only as precise as the information they've been built on, but these iPhone 7 cases match with almost all of the rumors we've heard about the iPhone 7 so far.


As can be seen in the video, the iPhone 7 case fits well on an iPhone 6s, in line with myriad rumors pointing towards only minor changes for the 2016 iPhone. When it comes to size and thickness, the iPhone 7 is going to be almost identical to the iPhone 6s, with some minor antenna band changes. The mute switch, the volume buttons, and the power button on the iPhone 6s fit perfectly into the iPhone 7 case.

The iPhone 7 case does not fit the iPhone 6s camera, with a lower, wider, and tapered camera cutout. Schematics of the iPhone 7 have depicted a larger camera, presumably to accommodate an improved sensor, so we will see some design changes in the camera area. Rumors have widely focused on the dual-camera in the iPhone 7 Plus, but we expect the iPhone 7 will also be getting some significant camera improvements.

iphone7casecameracutout-800x533.jpg

At the bottom of the case, there are cutouts for two speakers and no cutout for the headphone jack. Apple will be removing the headphone jack in the iPhone 7, but whether or not the space will be filled with a second speaker is contested. Some rumors suggest dual speakers for stereo audio, but others say the iPhone 7 will continue to sport a single speaker.

iphone7casebottom-800x533.jpg

Other design changes rumored for the iPhone 7 include repositioned antenna bands, with the removal of the bands that span across the back of the device, and the possibility of improved water resistance. Inside, we expect the iPhone 7 to have an A10 processor and 2GB RAM.

You probably noticed that the cases in our video are sporting a MacRumors logo. That's because we ordered hundreds of iPhone 7 cases in anticipation of giving them away as part of a new optional membership program that we're launching in the near future. Want one? Sign up for our interest list to be the first to hear about the upcoming membership because we'll be sending them to early subscribers.

Don't worry, all current MacRumors content and coverage will remain free. Membership will offer added incentives and bonuses to our most loyal readers.

Article Link: iPhone 7 Case: Nearly Identical Fit to 6s, Except for Camera Cutout and No Headphone Jack
I don't understand, I thought the removal of the headphone jack was done in order to make the phone thinner. It now just seems like a bigger inconvenience then the benefits it will reap.
 
more adapters coming, be prepared to spend a fortune on them and carry all of them with you
 
lol. How would you charge and listen at same time with USB-C? Same way as lightning -with an ADAPTER. You can charge and listen at the same time with lightning, I do it regularly.

Apple will ship an adapter. Mark my words. They already have to ship a lightning to micro USB adapter in Europe because of EU standards.

They don't ship with one in Europe but they will sell you one at Apple markup prices
 



With only three months to go until the launch of the iPhone 7 and the iPhone 7 Plus, case makers have already started creating cases for the two devices based on rumored specifications. We were able to get our hands on a set of iPhone 7 cases, so we did a comparison video to see how it measures up to the iPhone 6.

Early iPhone cases are always built on specifications gleaned from rumors, supply chain information, and other third-party sources, and oftentimes, they're an accurate representation of what we can expect a next-generation iPhone to look like.

Cases aren't always spot on because they're only as precise as the information they've been built on, but these iPhone 7 cases match with almost all of the rumors we've heard about the iPhone 7 so far.


As can be seen in the video, the iPhone 7 case fits well on an iPhone 6s, in line with myriad rumors pointing towards only minor changes for the 2016 iPhone. When it comes to size and thickness, the iPhone 7 is going to be almost identical to the iPhone 6s, with some minor antenna band changes. The mute switch, the volume buttons, and the power button on the iPhone 6s fit perfectly into the iPhone 7 case.

The iPhone 7 case does not fit the iPhone 6s camera, with a lower, wider, and tapered camera cutout. Schematics of the iPhone 7 have depicted a larger camera, presumably to accommodate an improved sensor, so we will see some design changes in the camera area. Rumors have widely focused on the dual-camera in the iPhone 7 Plus, but we expect the iPhone 7 will also be getting some significant camera improvements.

iphone7casecameracutout-800x533.jpg

At the bottom of the case, there are cutouts for two speakers and no cutout for the headphone jack. Apple will be removing the headphone jack in the iPhone 7, but whether or not the space will be filled with a second speaker is contested. Some rumors suggest dual speakers for stereo audio, but others say the iPhone 7 will continue to sport a single speaker.

iphone7casebottom-800x533.jpg

Other design changes rumored for the iPhone 7 include repositioned antenna bands, with the removal of the bands that span across the back of the device, and the possibility of improved water resistance. Inside, we expect the iPhone 7 to have an A10 processor and 2GB RAM.

You probably noticed that the cases in our video are sporting a MacRumors logo. That's because we ordered hundreds of iPhone 7 cases in anticipation of giving them away as part of a new optional membership program that we're launching in the near future. Want one? Sign up for our interest list to be the first to hear about the upcoming membership because we'll be sending them to early subscribers.

Don't worry, all current MacRumors content and coverage will remain free. Membership will offer added incentives and bonuses to our most loyal readers.

Article Link: iPhone 7 Case: Nearly Identical Fit to 6s, Except for Camera Cutout and No Headphone Jack
[doublepost=1465516470][/doublepost]on bright side, if it's not that appealing I can get a Samsung and have iMessage on it.
 
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