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It's looking more and more like the 6s and the SE that I currently own may be my last iPhones. No headphone jack will be a deal breaker.
 
Wow. They're going USB-C. I didn't expect this. I thought they'd wait until next year.
NO NO NO!

Lightning Cable is superior than USB-C in every single way. Why do you think Apple uses it? Because it's awesome!

Headphone needs to go, because there's no space to fit it with the 0.1 mm decrease in size.

2GB ram is MORE than enough, I cannot possible think of any usages that will need even 2.1GB of ram
 
Great! So now new iPhone 7's headphones won't even work with my MacBook or new MacBook Pro.

While Android is moving to USB-C which means their headphones will work with USB-C ports of MacBook and new MacBook Pro.

How does Apple always manage to **** us all with these ports?!?!

Getting ****** with a port is painful. Luckily modern ports are smaller than ports of yore.
 
New Bose SoundSports are amazing. No quality loss at all. Your battery life is gonna drain just from playing music, so, what's the difference? A couple (literally like 2) % points is nothing unless you have to have 50%+ to be able to go to sleep at night or some other bs. Wireless Beats are terrible, I will say, though. They're a joke in the headphone market, wired or wireless.

So what? One decent (and overpriced) pair or headphones doesnt make up for the other nuisances... why do I need to charge headphones? Why is everything going wireless when it doesnt need to?
 
Instead of the Apple logo on the back there should be an American football embossed on the backside to commemorate Apple punting this year.
 
I have a significant number of headphones as I like to just grab a pair when I leave and also have a few sitting in coats and bags so that when I forget to grab one I have a chance of having one already with me. Since I listen to my phone every day on my way to and from work, and I don't want to replace half a dozen headphones, this will be an issue for me. Now if someone can make a cheap adapter that just sticks on the end of my headphone and which I plug into my phone, then no problem. I will buy a half dozen or so adapters and just leave them permanently attached to my headphones. If it can be made small, then this might just extend the connector of the headphone by an inch and it won't look bad or get in the way.

But if each adapter is $30 or so (and presumably decent lightning headphones will also be selling at premium), I'm going to be a bit stuck and slightly less likely to upgrade from my 6s.

Apple spends less than $18 on their entire I/O chipset for the iPhone of which the DAC & amp are a small part. So I would guess that a simple DAC/amp adapter would be under $10 from an unlicensed Chinese knock-off company. Apple's will likely be about $20, and this is based on the $29 30-pin adapter which has an ADC as well, passes data, and power, and a 30-pin connector.

Except Apple will be using Lightning, I can guarantee it. That brings up complications like do you buy USB or Lightning-cabled headphones? And even if you choose one, you're going to be buying adapters for the cable, which means you're either getting lightning-to-USB (most likely) or USB-to-lightning port (less likely since only iPhones use Lightning), and even adapters for older 3.5mm ports. Also another issue with USB-C headphones is you're taking up a USB slot, which could be used for something else, and ultimately could have been avoided just by staying 3.5mm... and I can't imagine all manufacturers dropping the 3.5mm port immediately. The only other solution is wireless, but try with a straight face to tell that to anyone who cares even remotely about audio quality. Not to mention there's no real sound advantage to either new plug, and the only advantage it does have is in Apple marketing.

Nobody will have to choose between Lightning or USB-C. Headphones will be digital, with or without wireless. They will be agnostic to platform. Cables will determine platform, and I would expect some third party cables to include built-in connectors for all major platforms. You're also making assumptions about the current state of wireless, as if Apple hasn't already improved it, and is likely to make a massive leap forward when they make this announcement. They usually don't rush half-assed solutions to market, especially when so much is at stake with this decision.

Lightning only has line level analog audio out. It cannot power standard headphones.

USB-C can power plain earbuds with only a connector change.

Lightning earbuds would be super expensive because they'd have to have amplification circuitry powered by the phone. That's never going to happen. Expensive Bluetooth buds in the box isn't going to happen either.

This is Apple after all. They're never going to put buds in the box that cost more than a dollar to make.

USB-C is cheapest solution.

Apple will pick cheapest solution.

What's your source for this? All of this is wrong.

Agreed, and don't forget, there are many other devices, External Mic's, Card Readers, Wind Meters etc. that all use the headphone jack.

I won't buy another iPhone if they pull this stunt. No everyone just uses Bluetooth headsets. Plus the whole keeping the phone on charge while using the headphone jack is also a very nice option.

Apple is losing touch.

I would expect all of this hardware to work with an adapter. The current 30-pin to Lightning adapter accommodates external Mics. So the 3.5mm/Lightning adapter should as well.
 
Any rumors on the screen. In all honestly I'd be perfectly happy with the current iPhone plus body, but with smaller bezels on the screen. The body was such a nice design, they just need to catch the screen up with other phones.
 
All headphone manufacturers will be making USB-C headphones by this time next year.

This is finally one port to rule them all. I've been waiting since the 1970s to have to only have one kind of cable. It took forty years. Hooray!

And yet none will work on the iPhone...
 
Lightning is already capable of analogue audio. If Apple wanted to go that route they would, and they would have done it with the 30-pin to Lightning adapters rather than including DACs and amps. But why would they? That's as bad as customer's being forced to buy that $10 adapter for the original iPhone so that non-Apple headphones could be used with it, without offering any improvement. Talk about a money grab.

USB-C is not the answer -- that would force 200 million iOS customers to run out and buy new cables and adapters for their devices. And for what? To accommodate cheaper adapters for customers who don't want to move forward with new technology? Not likely.

Where do you see analog output in this diagram?

https://www.macrumors.com/2013/05/0...ailed-in-newly-published-patent-applications/

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Nevermind - I stand corrected. Pins are dynamically configurable - it's written write there in the text (I had done an image search).
 
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I'm guessing that MR ordered those hundreds of cases for the upcoming iPhone 7 with the blessing of someone who knows that they'll fit.
 
All headphone manufacturers will be making USB-C headphones by this time next year.

Nope. All headphone manufacturers will be making digital headphones by this time next year. But they will be platform agnostic, configurable by optional wireless, or custom single connector cables. Some will have multiple connectors (essentially built-in adapters) ... all choices up to the user which they prefer.
 
headphone jack is one of the last remnants of universal elegance, of perfect simplicity and minimalism; Apple is over-complicating. Whether you on a Subsaharan dune, in an ice cavern, the slums of India, Versailles palace, or deep in a Mongolian well, you can count on taking just about any pair of headphones on earth with you. Who the heck wants to keep track of an extra set of headphone that ONLY work with the new iphone unless you lug around a clunky ugly adapter to use with other Mac products? Where are your brains Apple? The day Apple drops the Headphone Jack the day they lose my business
 
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So it's the same phone, but with a bulge for the camera and less functionality (no headphone jack). what a bunch of *********. **** apple
 
So what? One decent (and overpriced) pair or headphones doesnt make up for the other nuisances... why do I need to charge headphones? Why is everything going wireless when it doesnt need to?
Cool down there, bud. Everything is going wireless because that's where technology has been progressing for decades now. The device you use daily runs because of that same premise (i.e., no one wants to be tied down by a landline - thus, the creation of the cell phone). Excuse me for liking the best headphones on the market ($150 total, so, not anymore overpriced than anything  puts on the market) - I believe I have the right to purchase what I like in an open market. If you wanna plug in everything, you have every right to do so, but I feel sorry for you because your stubborn ass will be stuck with an iPhone 6S,  EarPods, and a lightning cable for the rest of time. Good luck and godspeed.
 
MacRumors? Any chance you could sweeten the deal and throw in a dongle with that?;) I would much rather Apple remove the home button that would make more sense.
 
Really seems to be true. For me it means: No jack = no new iPhone! And no new iPad, no new MacbookPro, no new appleTVs, airPorts. Will hold all Apple investment as long as possible (about 2 years) and see what future brings. And take a closer look at alternatives (Android, Spotify, Amazon...).
Me and my family currently use 4 iPhones, 4 iPads, 4 MacbookPros, 1 macMini Server, 2 TimeCapsules, 3 AirportExpress and 4 AppleTVs, 1 Apple Watch, AppleMusic family and additional iCloud Space for every one of us. Maybe it's not only peak iPhone for Apple but peak Apple for me. And all because of pure ignorance from Apple.
 
Cool down there, bud. Everything is going wireless because that's where technology has been progressing for decades now. The device you use daily runs because of that same premise (i.e., no one wants to be tied down by a landline - thus, the creation of the cell phone). Excuse me for liking the best headphones on the market ($150 total, so, not anymore overpriced than anything  puts on the market) - I believe I have the right to purchase what I like in an open market. If you wanna plug in everything, you have every right to do so, but I feel sorry for you because your stubborn ass will be stuck with an iPhone 6S,  EarPods, and a lightning cable for the rest of time. Good luck and godspeed.

So everyone has to suffer because YOU want wireless headphones and your calling ME stubborn?
 
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I'm actually comtemplating picking up a 6S and MBP now so I'm not stuck with all this nonsense.
I want a headphone jack.
I want USB and TB, not USB C.
I'm almost positive they will do something else knuckleheaded that we arent prepared for. Like nuking the SD card slot. Or limiting local storage to 128gb since 'we are all in the cloud anyway'.
 
This 3 year iPhone design cycle is nothing new. Indeed, 4,4S,5, 5S had nearly identical design, with only some minor tweaks and for 5 series an elongated screen, but thats it.
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Aesthetically from the front, maybe. The design was completely different. iPhone 4(s) had an internal frame sandwiched between glass while the 5(s) was an aluminum unibody design with glass on the front. If these rumors are true, the 7 will have the same aluminum unibody design as the 6 and 6S before it. Just saying, there was a much bigger difference in your example from what we are rumored to see this year.
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Really seems to be true. For me it means: No jack = no new iPhone! And no new iPad, no new MacbookPro, no new appleTVs, airPorts. Will hold all Apple investment as long as possible (about 2 years) and see what future brings. And take a closer look at alternatives (Android, Spotify, Amazon...).
Me and my family currently use 4 iPhones, 4 iPads, 4 MacbookPros, 1 macMini Server, 2 TimeCapsules, 3 AirportExpress and 4 AppleTVs, 1 Apple Watch, AppleMusic family and additional iCloud Space for every one of us. Maybe it's not only peak iPhone for Apple but peak Apple for me. And all because of pure ignorance from Apple.

Is the headphone jack really that important to you that you would force you and your family to completely abandon all Apple products? Seems awfully extreme. What if they included a lightning-3.5mm adapter? Would you keep all of your Apple stuff?
 
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I assume the cases will be US only!

TBH that's the main reason I no longer donate yearly - I feel there's often a distain to the international readership on this site, (I do however click through & order from the occasional advert though to 'pay my way' as such!
 
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