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2 full days between a charge for me. What "so short" battery life are you talking about?

Not sure what you do with your phone then. Less than 90 minutes of game playing will take mine from 100% to 10%. It will not even get through a day of light web browsing. During the day, my phone is also my primary internet hotspot, and if it wasn't plugged in, I'd drain the battery 3 times over during a day.

And you still ignored my question. Clearly a lot of people can't get through the day on a charge. Why *not* improve the battery rather than making the phone thinner?
 
"Guys we can remove the headphone jack and increase battery size by 14%!!!!"

Well it certainly makes sense. I'd definitely take a larger battery over the headphone jack. I suspect most iPhone users would as well. We shall see.
 
Larger battery plus the even more efficient A10 would improve battery life drastically I assume. Good.

Exactly my thoughts. The 6S has a smaller battery than the 6, but due to more efficient archicetucture, has the same battery life as the 6. Given the trends in Apple's iDevice processors, we can only assume the A10 will be more efficient than the A9 in the 6S, thus this in combination with a bigger battery should mean a decent increase of about 20%+ hopefully improved battery life.
 
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I have to say the battery life on the SE is fantastic. Not sure why they made the lower end model better.

Its not like Apple isn't aware of their rubbish batteries....look at that horrible battery extender the came out with!!!! I can't believe that made sence to them, that was the best solution to the problem. But if a watch band isn't the same exact shade as MiniMouses dress, we've got a team on that right away prior to release. You'd think they would put a little more thought into the ONLY product keeping them rich. But based on the LG like design on the current 6S....I can tell they are a bit lost.
 
Better battery life is defiantly needed, but at the expense of loosing the 3.5mm audio jack that works on phones, tablets, laptops, music players, even airplane seat audio jack outlets ... no thank you. Apple you can take your alleged 1mm reduction in thickness and alleged battery life extension and stick it.
 
Didn't the 6s have a smaller battery than the 6? How much of an improvement is this truly from the 6 is what I want to know.

RTFA. "Nearly identical."
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"Guys we can remove the headphone jack and increase battery size by 14%!!!!"
"And the lack of a headphone jack is a 'feature'!!!!eleven!!!lll!!!l!!eleven!!!"
 
Too bad Bluetooth headphones will sap more power now that the headphone jack is gone.
How does the headphone jack improve the efficiency of bluetooth headphones? I'd think bluetooth would use the same amount of power whether or not there was a vacant 3.5mm headphone jack on the phone.
 
How does the headphone jack improve the efficiency of bluetooth headphones? I'd think bluetooth would use the same amount of power whether or not there was a vacant 3.5mm headphone jack on the phone.

I think the reason is that the Bluetooth radio will be fully engaged (transmitting and receiving) while using Bluetooth headphones. I don't know, however, if the power to drive the 3.5mm audio jack is overall more or less than transmitting music via Bluetooth. If I had to guess, and it's a total guess, I think the energy to drive the Bluetooth radio will consume more power than sending music out via the 3.5mm jack.
 
They should make the iPhone entirely powered by Pokémon, then the more you find, the longer the phone will go without recharging it. Obviously Pikachu would be a great find, as they are already very compatible with lightning...
 
I think the reason is that the Bluetooth radio will be fully engaged (transmitting and receiving) while using Bluetooth headphones. I don't know, however, if the power to drive the 3.5mm audio jack is overall more or less than transmitting music via Bluetooth. If I had to guess, and it's a total guess, I think the energy to drive the Bluetooth radio will consume more power than sending music out via the 3.5mm jack.
The big problem is that battery powered headphones are more disposable to people. Once the batteries are dead and wont charge anymore people are more likley to toss them instead of replace the batteries. I am also betting there are a few non-replacable battery headphones out there. Wired headphones seem to last people years. So it will fill up the landfills. So much for Apple and its green claims.
 
I think the reason is that the Bluetooth radio will be fully engaged (transmitting and receiving) while using Bluetooth headphones. I don't know, however, if the power to drive the 3.5mm audio jack is overall more or less than transmitting music via Bluetooth. If I had to guess, and it's a total guess, I think the energy to drive the Bluetooth radio will consume more power than sending music out via the 3.5mm jack.
I think it's likely that the iPhone will ship with a pair of wired headphones. The difference will be that they plug into the lightning port rather than the 3.5mm port.

The point I was making was that Bluetooth headphones, for those who use them, should draw about the same amount whether the phone has an unused 3.5mm jack or whether it that jack is absent.

When you're using lightning headphones, the phone will be powering an external DAC rather than the internal one, but I'm guessing that will be a wash.
 
Amazing how excited we can get about a bigger battery considering it's still less than 2,000mAh while the S7 has 3,000mAh. Still, at the end of the day, we have to wait for results.

The S7 is a bigger phone with a much less efficient processor. As you say, results are what matter.
 
The Benchmark are 8% more battery life on their biggest phone compared to the 6s+, what you'd expect for a 8% bigger battery. So, what's your point?

Usage of phones is much more intense these days and that's why people complain about battery.
Battery life of devices have mostly gone up with time.
My point is 14% increase in capacity is great but if that translates into the usage times of the iPhone SE or more it will make for a worthwhile upgrade.

Internet use:
Up to 12 hours on 3G,

up to 13 hours on LTE,

up to 13 hours on Wi‑Fi

Video playback:
Up to 13 hours
 
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Too bad Bluetooth headphones will sap more power now that the headphone jack is gone.

Wrong. Bose Wireless headphones get 15 hours on a 240mA battery. That covers the Bluetooth wireless signal AND the amplifier to drive the headphones. The iPhone 6S battery is 7 times larger in capacity and it will only have to power the Bluetooth signal (not the headphone drivers themselves).

As I explained in the other thread about Lightning headphones, the rest of your iPhone (screen, processor, electronics) consumes FAR more power than either BT or even direct connected headphones ever would.
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Sounds like someone has an expensive gadget they don't use.
Typical response. I actually use my phone for work. My typical 2 days involves around 4-4.5 hours each day of usage time on my phone, primarily in Safari (connecting to corporate servers to access & download documents), e-mail, iMessage and phone calls. Take off charge at 6:00am on Monday and down to 10% by 11:00pm Tuesday for a total of 8-9 hours usage and the rest in standby.

Sounds to me like some of you:

A) Have defective iPhones with bad batteries.
B) Don't know how to manage battery use and have Apps like Facebook constantly sucking your battery dry in the background checking for updates or accessing your GPS.


Not sure what you do with your phone then. Less than 90 minutes of game playing will take mine from 100% to 10%. It will not even get through a day of light web browsing. During the day, my phone is also my primary internet hotspot, and if it wasn't plugged in, I'd drain the battery 3 times over during a day.

And you still ignored my question. Clearly a lot of people can't get through the day on a charge. Why *not* improve the battery rather than making the phone thinner?

Define a "lot" of people? Do you mean whiners on Internet forums who claim to represent the majority of users with their odd use-cases? Those same people who say they won't buy the next iPhone unless it has a bigger battery, has 32GB for the base storage or any other number of "fake" dealbreaker reasons they can come up with to announce to the world they're not going to buy/are not satisfied with their iPhone?

Which game drains your battery that fast? And on which iPhone model?


I see a lot of people here claiming poor battery life. So why don't you all post up screenshots of your battery usage stats from your iPhones and show us how poor your battery life is (and let us see what Apps are consuming all that power).
 
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