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thankfully I've been wireless since 2013 so the change wasn't too difficult. The only thing that annoys me is if I'm riding with a friend who has a vehicle that still has an auxiliary cable or in an Uber. Other than that it doesn't bother me. YMMV
 
I'm one who listens to music every way possible. Stereo with CD, Tape, Vinyl turntable, and Chromecast Audio. I have physical CD and vinyl and tape. I have iTunes purchased music and I stream via Google Play Music/YouTube Red. I have bluetooth speakers/earbuds. I have everything available to me for audio except 8 track (which I still would like to have).

For Bluetooth, I use the Beats Pill+ speaker and the Beats X earbuds. I find that it sounds very good, and slightly more balanced than the analog connector on my prior phone, the 6s+, and the same for my 7+ with the adapter dongle. I just think it has a bit more balance and sounds smoother. I think Bluetooth audio gets a bad rap. It sounds very good to me.


I have all except vinyl and 8 track. I don't have anything Beats (I don't support anything Dr. Dre is involved with). I do have X3s which are nice, but don't measure up to my m50s. I use a Motorola SOL as my BT speaker, which is nothing to write home about.

On the other hand, streaming to my surround sound is never an issue and the sound is excellent.

Its streaming in my car that I notice the difference in sound depending on how it's delivered. CD's are loud and crisp. I use Google Play for music and seems that streaming from an 7+ causes the sound to be a little muffled and not as loud. While streaming from GP using a Samsung or Android it's too dang loud.


thankfully I've been wireless since 2013 so the change wasn't too difficult. The only thing that annoys me is if I'm riding with a friend who has a vehicle that still has an auxiliary cable or in an Uber. Other than that it doesn't bother me. YMMV

Yes, that happened to me a month ago. I've been wireless forever but my family isn't. They have BT in their cars, but they aren't buying portable BT speakers because their regular speakers work perfectly and all they need is an AUX cord. My aunt asked me, "How is that a new phone and you can't do something as simple as plugging a cord in to play music?"

While people on this site get it, folks that aren't into tech don't.
 
I just got a set of AirPods today.
Even though the price is a little steep they are great.
I should have bought them sooner.
No more wires or having to only stretch a little so the phone doesn't fall off the desk.
I get up and walk freely now many feet away.
 
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I go to a gym 6 days a week. Almost everyone there has some sort of phone on which I assume they are listening to music. Most, by a large visual majority, are still using plugged in headphones. A bunch of people do use wireless headphone but I've seen only 1 with airpods. Not scientific but wired seems to be the way to go so far.
 
I haven't used wired headphones since 2012... and just picked up Airpods two days ago... They may be a bit goofy looking but they're an amazing little device. Well worth the cost, considering I used motorola and plantronics bluetooth headsets in the past for work at $130 a crack anyway.
 
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I go to a gym 6 days a week. Almost everyone there has some sort of phone on which I assume they are listening to music. Most, by a large visual majority, are still using plugged in headphones. A bunch of people do use wireless headphone but I've seen only 1 with airpods. Not scientific but wired seems to be the way to go so far.

The wireless option is a great idea, but only Apple (Not sure if anyone else omitted the headphone jack) decided we all need to be wireless. Unfortunately there are more people who still use the headphone jack. If I were to convert for the sake of accommodating my iPhone 7, I would have to replace two pairs of high end home listening headphones, three pairs of portable headphones, and buy a new car with bluetooth instead of an auxiliary jack.

It's kind of like buying a 4K TV. You still need to convert everything else to accommodate it and take advantage of all it offers. Society as a whole is not there yet. I know people who still own 300 pound CRT tube style TV's with built in VCR's.
 
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I haven't used wired headphones since the 3GS. Have always used Bluetooth. Never cared for wired headphones so I didn't care about loosing the jack.

Bluetooth audio quality is perfectly adequate these days anyway. Everything is going wireless so why tie yourself to wires.

I also use Bluetooth to stream all my local music on my phone to an aftermarket car play headunit with decent speakers and a subwoofer. Audio quality is fantastic, highs sound great and the bass is very strong.
 
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not having the headphone jack has been a PIA for me, i have several wired earbuds and have had to purchase other dongles to use them because i dont want to purchase wireless ones and have to keep those charged up as well. I also have a home gym and have a stereo system in there and plug my iphone into it as it doesnt have bluetooth . So ive spent about $50 just for extra dongles
 
not having the headphone jack has been a PIA for me, i have several wired earbuds and have had to purchase other dongles to use them because i dont want to purchase wireless ones and have to keep those charged up as well. I also have a home gym and have a stereo system in there and plug my iphone into it as it doesnt have bluetooth . So ive spent about $50 just for extra dongles


Totally feel your pain. Not everyone goes out and buy new things just because it has the latest technology. Apple pretty much forces your hand (even though they included one dongle). My dongle is attached to my M50s but if I want to listen to music in my living room, I just use my iPad because my fear is once I start moving my dongle it'll get lost. Some would say just buy multiple dongles, I'm just not there yet. 1. Because I'm not tied into the Apple ecosystem heavily so I have no problem switching (still use all Google products) 2. I really wouldn't use them all that much until the occasion calls for it
 
I kind of miss it given how noisy my commutes are. But what I really need are noise cancelling earplugs. :p
This is the EXACT reason that bluetooth headphones suck right now. I have been using noise-blocking earbuds for more than a decade and I will be d@mned if I have to go back to hearing other people around me!!!

TUnfortunately there are more people who still use the headphone jack.

It's kind of like buying a 4K TV. You still need to convert everything else to accommodate it and take advantage of all it offers. Society as a whole is not there yet.
Its not really like buying a 4K TV. You can still play non-4K content on a 4K TV and it just magically works without any extra adapter required. The same cannot be said for the iPhone 7 and regular headphones.

You are actually doing predictions about technological and ergonomical advances based on what you are seeing at the gym?
Here's what I want to know. How do the folks at the gym who use bluetooth earbuds plug those into the traditional jacks to be able to watch live TV? Have all those folks given up sound for all their video and TV? Maybe I am officially "old", because when I am watching a game I actually enjoy being able to hear it. :p
 
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This is the EXACT reason that bluetooth headphones suck right now. I have been using noise-blocking earbuds for more than a decade and I will be d@mned if I have to go back to hearing other people around me!!!


Its not really like buying a 4K TV. You can still play non-4K content on a 4K TV and it just magically works without any extra adapter required. The same cannot be said for the iPhone 7 and regular headphones.


Here's what I want to know. How do the folks at the gym who use bluetooth earbuds plug those into the traditional jacks to be able to watch live TV? Have all those folks given up sound for all their video and TV? Maybe I am officially "old", because when I am watching a game I actually enjoy being able to hear it. :p

I'm with ya all the way. Good point, non 4k content still plays, but not the case without a headphone jack and iPhone 7.

Just the other day I went to the gym with my other pair of earbuds. Doh!!! Forgot I needed the dongle, sorry no music for me today. Drove to California a while back. My car has an Auxiliary jack to plug in my phone and listen to music. Doh!!! Forgot the dongle in my other car.

So ya, I could buy more dongles and spread them around the house, but my point is, for many of us, the technology around us still uses a headphone jack. I don't consider this behind the times either. I have a high end pair of headphones and a headphone preamp I use to listen to music. Would blow away any bluetooth offering, period. The whole issue is nothing more than Apple steering us in a direction they think we should go. Might catch on... or not.

Funny, in turn if I wanted to use my iPhone earbuds to listen to music on anything else I am also forced into a dongle situation. Great name for a band, Dongle Situation.
 
Here's what I want to know. How do the folks at the gym who use bluetooth earbuds plug those into the traditional jacks to be able to watch live TV? Have all those folks given up sound for all their video and TV? Maybe I am officially "old", because when I am watching a game I actually enjoy being able to hear it. :p
Tunity (free iOS app) works well for that.
 
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Tunity (free iOS app) works well for that.
Looks like a cool app to help solve that problem, but having to pay a monthly fee and then fine tune the app to match the cable box delay seems like more hassle then it's worth. And it still doesn't solve the problem of when you channel surf while on your machine. Are you going to whip out the app every time you change a channel?

I'm not knocking progress, but here's my question: why not just leave the jack untouched and introduce the AirPods? You help introduce folks to an Applesque BT solution but don't force it on them.

If any port should have been eliminated, Apple should have aimed to eliminate the lightning port first. It's proprietary and a source of failure on every iPhone as they age. Plus there's decent open "wireless" charging solutions and you really do not need a data/charging wire for anything that can't be done at least as conveniently without one. I just think Apple's "bravery" was misplaced and the first move would have been to add wireless and enhanced preferably open BT abilities before removing any port.
 
Looks like a cool app to help solve that problem, but having to pay a monthly fee and then fine tune the app to match the cable box delay seems like more hassle then it's worth. And it still doesn't solve the problem of when you channel surf while on your machine. Are you going to whip out the app every time you change a channel?

I'm not knocking progress, but here's my question: why not just leave the jack untouched and introduce the AirPods? You help introduce folks to an Applesque BT solution but don't force it on them.

If any port should have been eliminated, Apple should have aimed to eliminate the lightning port first. It's proprietary and a source of failure on every iPhone as they age. Plus there's decent open "wireless" charging solutions and you really do not need a data/charging wire for anything that can't be done at least as conveniently without one. I just think Apple's "bravery" was misplaced and the first move would have been to add wireless and enhanced preferably open BT abilities before removing any port.

What do the cardio machines at the gym have to do with the iPhone? The cardio machines at my gym have the old 30 pin wide USB iPhone plug.
That means that I have to stick to using an iPhone 4S because the bike or treadmill only has that option available? If You want to plug in and listen to those tv's then you bring regular headphones that can plug in. If you have Bluetooth headphones on already connected to something then you listen to whatever those wireless headphones are connected to wirelessly.
Get used to progress, technology advances.
The regular headphone jack will not be around for long in new gadgets.
The faster people adapt and accept it with a little less kicking dirt the easier life will be :)
Apple is not looking back or bringing it back.
So you either stick to older iPhones or go to android.
 
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Looks like a cool app to help solve that problem, but having to pay a monthly fee and then fine tune the app to match the cable box delay seems like more hassle then it's worth. And it still doesn't solve the problem of when you channel surf while on your machine. Are you going to whip out the app every time you change a channel?
I've been using Tunity for a couple years, and there is no monthly fee. Not sure where you got that. o_O
 
I've been using Tunity for a couple years, and there is no monthly fee. Not sure where you got that. o_O
I went back to the site and re-read everything and you are right.
I was tripped up when in the FAQ they said:
"for example, a 1GB monthly data subscription will last for almost 8 days of straight listening"
I thought you had to subscribe on a monthly basis, but I think now that they were referring to the phone's cellular data subscription. The word "subscription" is just usual, as normally "plan" or "allotment" is used to refer to the amount of cellular data one has if not on unlimited.

What do the cardio machines at the gym have to do with the iPhone? The cardio machines at my gym have the old 30 pin wide USB iPhone plug.
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Get used to progress, technology advances.
LOL, not sure what antiquated gym you are attending, but might I suggest that you bring your soapbox next time and give them the same lecture you gave me about "progress" and "technology advances" :p

What I was referring to is the TV's built into the machines. One normally would plug these ancient items called headphones into the ancient 3.5mm jack to be able to watch live TV, Youtube, Netflix or anything else that the cardio machine can display in its screen. :)
 
I read in the last day or so - none of the other phone manufacturers are following Apple and getting rid of the jack. As a matter of face they are advertising that they still have it.

As far as the at the gym comment - for me it isn't that I use my phone at the gym but I use headset to listen to morning news and the jack at the gym and I'm sure at most gyms and everywhere else where you can use headphones are the 3.5 ones and not anything else. The issue is Apple went its own way which is great if you are leading but it sounds as if no one if following and with so much technology it will take decades even if people wanted to follow.

I understand the reason to make the phone thinner but thinner without function is sort of strange. Thin phone is one of Apple's driving force but not sure is should be.
 
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I went back to the site and re-read everything and you are right.
I was tripped up when in the FAQ they said:
"for example, a 1GB monthly data subscription will last for almost 8 days of straight listening"
I thought you had to subscribe on a monthly basis, but I think now that they were referring to the phone's cellular data subscription. The word "subscription" is just usual, as normally "plan" or "allotment" is used to refer to the amount of cellular data one has if not on unlimited.


LOL, not sure what antiquated gym you are attending, but might I suggest that you bring your soapbox next time and give them the same lecture you gave me about "progress" and "technology advances" :p

What I was referring to is the TV's built into the machines. One normally would plug these ancient items called headphones into the ancient 3.5mm jack to be able to watch live TV, Youtube, Netflix or anything else that the cardio machine can display in its screen. :)

Lol :D
Antiquated gym for sure.
Maybe I should blame Apple instead like you that they didn't keep the ancient 30 pin connector :D
You're the one with the soapbox complaining over a dozen times in this thread alone about the aux port.
I moved on, I got AirPods and adapters if needed in rare cases.
I adapt instead of whining;)
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I read in the last day or so - none of the other phone manufacturers are following Apple and getting rid of the jack. As a matter of face they are advertising that they still have it.

As far as the at the gym comment - for me it isn't that I use my phone at the gym but I use headset to listen to morning news and the jack at the gym and I'm sure at most gyms and everywhere else where you can use headphones are the 3.5 ones and not anything else. The issue is Apple went its own way which is great if you are leading but it sounds as if no one if following and with so much technology it will take decades even if people wanted to follow.

I understand the reason to make the phone thinner but thinner without function is sort of strange. Thin phone is one of Apple's driving force but not sure is should be.

Apple doesn't care about the treadmill aux at the gym or what other places have available for you to plug in. If you need to plug in to those you bring a headphone set. They're only $1-2.
That has nothing to do with the iPhone dropping the aux. And no it will not take decades for most tech manufacturers to advance up to Apple.
Apple leads and the rest follow/copy Apple;)
 
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Right now 45% of the respondents are saying they had problems. That is high.

I think I'm going to keep my 6s maybe another 3 years. LOL
 
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Lol :D
Antiquated gym for sure.
Maybe I should blame Apple instead like you that they didn't keep the ancient 30 pin connector :D
You're the one with the soapbox complaining over a dozen times in this thread alone about the aux port.
The switch from the 30 pin to the lightening connector was an improvement in user function: it lead to a smaller cable that no-longer required orientation for insertion. Let me "whine" (aka state the facts :p ) for supposedly the 13th time :) in the spirit of your Boston Commons and say that the same cannot be said about the removal of the headphone jack. Improvements in bluetooth technology, which have been included in every single iPhone for the past decade, do not overcome the detriment from the removal of the headphone jack. That is where you and I fundamentally disagree.

I bought two iPhone 7's actually, so have "moved on". But nearly every single day I am reminded of how ludicrous Apple's decision to jettison the headphone jack was. Its interesting that every successful iPhone competitor goes out of their way to make sure they include a headphone jack and mention it to consumers. There is a reason for that, and this is what you are failing to understand.
 
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