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Iphone 7 Higher Res Display

C DM said:
Apple hasn't really been about doing things first, they've been more about doing things right/better. For example, iPod wasn't the first music player by far, and even the iPhone wasn't the first touchscreen phone.
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I disagree. There was a time once when Apple used to be an industry pioneer, especially when it came to iPhones. Other brands literally looked up to Apple - which is why Samsung quite strategically had two flagship cycles per year, for Galaxy and Note, just so that they can incorporate Apple's innovations in their own products. Even in terms of design, Apple was at a totally different level - look at the iPhone 4 design.

Apple today is playing more catchup; not because they're late at innovation, but because the other guys are faster. Whether they're "doing things right/better" is debatable. But that characteristic creativity is getting scarce.
 
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iThingsGurl said:
I disagree. There was a time once when Apple used to be an industry pioneer, especially when it came to iPhones. Other brands literally looked up to Apple - which is why Samsung quite strategically had two flagship cycles per year, for Galaxy and Note, just so that they can incorporate Apple's innovations in their own products. Even in terms of design, Apple was at a totally different level - look at the iPhone 4 design.

Apple today is playing more catchup; not because they're late at innovation, but because the other guys are faster. Whether they're "doing things right/better" is debatable. But that characteristic creativity is getting scarce.
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Samsung is still incorporating Apple's innovations. The new Samsung S7 is a prime example. It has similar 3D Touch feature (one of the rarer things Apple did first.) Also they're adding a similar "Live Photos" feature. (I'm well aware Apple didn't do a Live Photo type feature first, but not until Apple adding it did Samsung add it)

Like C DM said. Apple has never really been about being first. They usually see what others do, see what works and doesn't work, and if they feel like they can do it better, they do their spin on it. As mentioned, the iPod wasn't the first MP3 player around, they just made it "better". The iPhone wasn't the first smartphone around, they just made it "better". The iPad wasn't the first tablet around, they just made it "better". Apple usually tends to make things more mainstream once they put their spin on it and they become standards as a result.
 
Radon87000 said:
I am comparing it with the smaller 6s which has 720P. The difference is visible as clear as day. The iPhone 6s has blurry text compared to the S6 .The Plus edition is already sharper than the 6 in the first place
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Not to mention that 6S+ native resolution is 2208x1242 down scaled to full HD. So it looks even better.
 
Mrsemexter said:
Hey was just wondering what the chances of the next iPhone having a higher resolution display. Just seems a bit odd that the 6S plus only has a 1080p display, and the 6s doesn't even have that, but yet they can record in 4k! Also YouTube recently enabled 1440p videos to be played on the iPhone, is this a sign?
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Putting more pixels in that space is of dubious merit as you can't generally see the pixels anyway.

It records in 4k so you can play on larger devices and get the benefit of 4k, the point is not to watch 4k on the built in display.

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colour reproduction is another thing entirely and maybe there is room for improvement there. but as far as being 'high enough' resolution, retina displays are already there. 4k resolution is intended for TVs at typical TV viewing distance. Not a 5-6 inch display at arms length.

I'd much rather have better battery life and faster performance than a higher resolution screen.

What other OEMs are often doing is pure feature tickboxing - it's a paper spec to brag about that doesn't actually help in a lot of cases. But bigger numbers are better, right?
 
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lagwagon said:
Samsung is still incorporating Apple's innovations. The new Samsung S7 is a prime example. It has similar 3D Touch feature (one of the rarer things Apple did first.) Also they're adding a similar "Live Photos" feature. (I'm well aware Apple didn't do a Live Photo type feature first, but not until Apple adding it did Samsung add it)

Like C DM said. Apple has never really been about being first. They usually see what others do, see what works and doesn't work, and if they feel like they can do it better, they do their spin on it. As mentioned, the iPod wasn't the first MP3 player around, they just made it "better". The iPhone wasn't the first smartphone around, they just made it "better". The iPad wasn't the first tablet around, they just made it "better". Apple usually tends to make things more mainstream once they put their spin on it and they become standards as a result.
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Like I said, Apple was once a market pioneer in terms of innovation, and your examples of mp3 player (2001), smartphone (2007), and tablet (2010) reaffirm that. But I believe, these innovations have now become far and few. Large screens were already mainstream, Apple "followed", multi-window was already popular, Apple "followed", third-party keyboards were already mainstream, Apple "followed", proactive alerts were already there, Apple "followed", low-power mode had already become handy, when Apple "followed". And I still believe what I earlier said, how "better" are many of these recent adaptations, is debatable. Now, I'm not criticizing Apple in any way. My point is, from making things more mainstream once, they have come to following suit now.
 
I would rather the 7 plus stay at 1080p if increasing to 1440p meant a reduction in battery life. 1080p on a 5.5 inch display is acceptable.
 
This is not hard to figure out. If you go ultra thin, you can't have a QHD display. It's as simple as that.
 
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iThingsGurl said:
Like I said, Apple was once a market pioneer in terms of innovation, and your examples of mp3 player (2001), smartphone (2007), and tablet (2010) reaffirm that. But I believe, these innovations have now become far and few. Large screens were already mainstream, Apple "followed", multi-window was already popular, Apple "followed", third-party keyboards were already mainstream, Apple "followed", proactive alerts were already there, Apple "followed", low-power mode had already become handy, when Apple "followed". And I still believe what I earlier said, how "better" are many of these recent adaptations, is debatable. Now, I'm not criticizing Apple in any way. My point is, from making things more mainstream once, they have come to following suit now.
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I don't think those examples are really cases of innovation though. A larger screen, 3rd party keyboards, etc. Apple has followed features in the past like copy/paste yet it's not following innovation imo.

Things like 64 bit processing and Touch ID, while not the 1st iteration, was the first to do it well. It links to Apple Pay now among other things like apps. It's pretty convenient, secure and reliable, everything Apple typically tries to accomplish. Now you have 3D Touch which is basically a different way of screen input. Imo it works well yet it's still somewhat limited and early so I'm sure its use will expand as did Touch ID with development and apps. I'm curious to see the endgame here of where this technology will ultimately head, just as Touch ID led to Apple Pay. Usually Apple seems to know its goal and each new feature tends to lend itself as a step toward that goal. If they rid the headphone jack in the 7 I bet they already know it's a step toward something advanced, like maybe true wireless charging.
 
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If anything the 7 Plus will get full 3x Resolution at 2208x1242 and the 7 2001x1125 (Full 3x) or downscaled 1080p. This is actually not that unlikely i think..
 
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journeyy said:
If anything the 7 Plus will get full 3x Resolution at 2208x1242 and the 7 2001x1125 (Full 3x) or downscaled 1080p. This is actually not that unlikely i think..
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I agree with the 7+ probably moving to 1250p. So it would no longer have to downscale and "cost resources" doing it.

I doubt the 7 (4.7") will go to a 3x, it doesn't do 3x currently. I do see it being upgraded to native 1080p though.

Apple typically does their screen upgrades on the non s versions (4 had retina, 5 had 4", 6 had 4.7" + 5.5") So it's quite likely there will be those small bumps. 750p -> 1080p for the 7 and 1080p -> 1250p for the 7+. This seems to me to be the most logical step. The big change (possible 1440p) won't happen until the rumoured 2018 swap over to OLED (which would be the iPhone 8 and once again non s model)
 
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While there's a portion of the public that's interested in "innovation," there's a huge part that isn't. They may want "the best," they want reliable, they want smooth performance, ease of operation. Most are not on a one-year upgrade cycle - as long as there's a noteworthy difference in features and performance between iPhone 5s and iPhone 6s or 7, they'll be delighted with their new iPhone (I went from iPhone 4 to iPhone 6 - talk about a night and day difference!). That's why case designs change every two years, instead of annually.

That's why there will always be a balance at Apple between quality of execution and cutting edge. When Apple does something half-way (like the rollout of Maps) they don't hear the end of it. When other makers bring out products that are a bit rough around the edges they manage to get a "pass" - the public has different expectations of Samsung.

And our own hindsight is often lacking. Many of what we remember as Apple "firsts" were not really firsts - they were more typically Apple proving that "cutting edge" was "ready for prime time." It's always been about the user experience.

My 87 year-old dad just got his first smartphone - iPhone 6s. You should have seen his amazement and delight when I set him up with TouchID. He's no stranger to tech - no doubt he expected it to be quirky, difficult to use, etc. He knows to expect a password or passcode (and its importance), so to bypass the lock screen with such ease... he practically giggles every time he touches the sensor. To me, that is the Apple experience, not having the highest-res display or the most CPU cores.
 
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lagwagon said:
Samsung is still incorporating Apple's innovations. The new Samsung S7 is a prime example. It has similar 3D Touch feature (one of the rarer things Apple did first.) Also they're adding a similar "Live Photos" feature. (I'm well aware Apple didn't do a Live Photo type feature first, but not until Apple adding it did Samsung add it)

Like C DM said. Apple has never really been about being first. They usually see what others do, see what works and doesn't work, and if they feel like they can do it better, they do their spin on it. As mentioned, the iPod wasn't the first MP3 player around, they just made it "better". The iPhone wasn't the first smartphone around, they just made it "better". The iPad wasn't the first tablet around, they just made it "better". Apple usually tends to make things more mainstream once they put their spin on it and they become standards as a result.
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3D touch was implemented in Nokia's Mclaren model which was never released as Microsoft scrapped it
 
kapp2 said:
Yes, iPhones have more true colors i agree with that. but on resolution. samsung wins
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Actually the S6 has the more accurate colours in Basic mode but knowing that the other modes are more punchy, using Basic makes the screen look dull in comparison. If Basic was the only mode available, we'd get used to it. Also for some reason, truer colours look more pleasing on LCD vs AMOLED for some reason. Kinda like Plasma vs LCD where plasma always looked more realistic but less punchy!
Remember the Nexus 5? It had one of the more accurate displays of its day but people complained that it lacked contrast and looked washed out. I loved my Nexus 5 cause the photos I took and processed off my DSLR always looked close to what it looked like on my colour calibrated monitor.
 
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Elisha said:
Remember the Nexus 5? It had one of the more accurate displays of its day but people complained that it lacked contrast and looked washed out. I loved my Nexus 5 cause the photos I took and processed off my DSLR always looked close to what it looked like on my colour calibrated monitor.
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I think i read the same complaint in reviews for the Nexus 5X though, which has a very accurate LCD display. Probably because of the direct comparison to the Nexus 6P
 
We're naturally attracted to punchy vibrant looking screens. That's why Plasma lost the race...
 
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