iPhone 7 Home Button Requires Capacitive Touch to Work

[alexmarchuk]

Oh, I am not crying about it, because I know people at Apple and I know for a fact that they will create a fix / fast workaround through the iOS.

So get over your self.

Sounds like a lot of crying.

 

[truthertech]

How is our generation entitled, whiny and childish generation? Just because I don't agree whatever a Apple gives us? Are we suppose treat Apple like the God where we follow its teaching?

**** that man. If iPhone 7's new design requires us to buy new glove or put up with the new design and along removing 3.5mm jack, then I am not buying it.

To use a phrase from another generation--your post that the Apple design is requiring you "to buy a new glove" "is a hoot." It's also overwrought with angst over an minor issue that is likely never to impact you in a measurable way and that is typical of a particular generation.

 

[QuarterSwede]

I'm not sure how that follows.

I was saying that the home button won't work at all with gloves on--not just for unlocking. So if you're in an app and want to go to the homescreen, you won't be able to (without assistive touch). If you want to pull up multi-tasking, you won't be able to.

Ah, I see.

 

[AnonMac50]

I haven't used the iPhone 7 yet, but with my experience with a 6s on iOS 9 and and HTC 10 (which has a capacitive home button) I have no problem whatsoever ever using the screen or activating the home button with by covering my finger with a shirt or using latex cloves (the kind you use when dishwashing. Sure the fingerprint won't be recognised, but the button and the screen both work fine. Actually the HTC 10 have capacitive navigation buttons next to the home button and they can be used as well. I don't know how often such a use case would be, but it is nice to know it works if I ever need it. Also, I tested the latex glove with the iPhone 6s's TouchID by registering a new finger and that works as well

 

[LovingTeddy]

Not at all! Apple is somewhat different than most companies as they have a design and product ethic that they believe in. That's the way it's always been. You can sometimes agree with it, sometimes disagree but later find common ground, or never agree! As an Apple customer though you view the WHOLE and while again there may be some things you disagree with, for example not wanting to remove a glove or buy a $9 3.5mm Lightning sleeve, there are other things such as software updates, great software, great eco-system, great support, and great quality design and build. You have to add it up and make your own decision! Just know that there are others with a different set of feature priorities. I trust you will be happy for many years with a 6s or 6s Plus, and if not go to another platform.

I agree with you whole heartedly. For now, I will stick with my iPhone 6, 6S and SE for now. And I am sure iPhone 6, 6S and SE will hold on for while.

 

[GoodWheaties]

On iPhone 6s, you could unlock the phone manually with a passcode by pressing on the Home button to bring up the passcode menu. I have capacitive gloves that work after I do this. On the iPhone 7, you can't bring up the passcode entry window -- capacitive gloves don't seem to work on the Home button.

Because before you could swipe to unlock and use gloves to enter your password after waking up the phone with gloved hands.

Plus this means the home button will be useless for all other functions if you have gloves on--not just unlocking. It's using Touch ID to recognize a finger, not just to unlock.

Thank you guys for actually understanding this issue. I was beginning to think everyone on this forum was an imbecile lacking reading comprehension.

 

[truthertech]

Thank you guys for actually understanding this issue. I was beginning to think everyone on this forum was an imbecile lacking reading comprehension.

But of course capacitive gloves do work, as countless people have demonstrated, so you might want to hesitate a bit before you call other people imbeciles.

 

[Tycho24]

To use a phrase from another generation--your post that the Apple design is requiring you "to buy a new glove" "is a hoot." It's also overwrought with angst over an minor issue that is likely never to impact you in a measurable way and that is typical of a particular generation.

Great post!
Lol, before today I was unaware that so many people fit the INCREDIBLY narrow scope of those that:
1)don't use TouchID
2)don't have a passcode
3)cannot access the info they're after using the "raise to wake" feature
4)are constantly wearing thick gloves
5)desperately need access, not just to their notifications; but to view their actual home screen that they CANNOT interact with because of the gloves they're wearing...

I mean: that sounds SUPER reaching to me!

 

[Nhlanhlo]

one does not really need to use the home button except to unlock. Pressing hard on the right hand side of the iPhone

1. I think it's a pretty big deal. I use latex gloves for work all the time and the iPhone 6 screen was always pretty good at responding even with the gloves on. I just tried my new iPhone 7 matte black 128gb with gloves and the home button is not responding at all. I can still move around on the touch screen, like texting and what not. But I just tried to leave the safari app by touching the home button and I cannot go home. There is no way for me to leave any app if I have the gloves on let alone unlocking the screen. I have to physically take off my glove to unlock or leave an app or use the multitask gesture. Which is strange since I can still use the touch screen like normal but the home button has become completely useless with gloves on. This In my opinion can decide for future customers if this is the right phone for them

I think it's a pretty big deal. I use latex gloves for work all the time and the iPhone 6 screen was always pretty good at responding even with the gloves on. I just tried my new iPhone 7 matte black 128gb with gloves and the home button is not responding at all. I can still move around on the touch screen, like texting and what not. But I just tried to leave the safari app by touching the home button and I cannot go home. There is no way for me to leave any app if I have the gloves on let alone unlocking the screen. I have to physically take off my glove to unlock or leave an app or use the multitask gesture. Which is strange since I can still use the touch screen like normal but the home button has become completely useless with gloves on. This In my opinion can decide for future customers if this is the right phone for them

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I think it's a pretty big deal. I use latex gloves for work all the time and the iPhone 6 screen was always pretty good at responding even with the gloves on. I just tried my new iPhone 7 matte black 128gb with gloves and the home button is not responding at all. I can still move around on the touch screen, like texting and what not. But I just tried to leave the safari app by touching the home button and I cannot go home. There is no way for me to leave any app if I have the gloves on let alone unlocking the screen. I have to physically take off my glove to unlock or leave an app or use the multitask gesture. Which is strange since I can still use the touch screen like normal but the home button has become completely useless with gloves on. This In my opinion can decide for future customers if this is the right phone for them

 

[JTToft]

Well, yes. Doesn't really change anything. Only people who used neither passcode nor Touch ID were previously able to open their phones without skin contact, and then weren't able to do anything else on the phone while open.

This doesn't restrict anything.

 

[Nhlanhlo]

To access home screen, multitasking or leaving an app in iPhone 6s/6s+ 7/7+, one only needs to 3D touch the right side of the screen. There is no need to use the home button. It works with latex gloves, I have just tried it.
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I think it's a pretty big deal. I use latex gloves for work all the time and the iPhone 6 screen was always pretty good at responding even with the gloves on. I just tried my new iPhone 7 matte black 128gb with gloves and the home button is not responding at all. I can still move around on the touch screen, like texting and what not. But I just tried to leave the safari app by touching the home button and I cannot go home. There is no way for me to leave any app if I have the gloves on let alone unlocking the screen. I have to physically take off my glove to unlock or leave an app or use the multitask gesture. Which is strange since I can still use the touch screen like normal but the home button has become completely useless with gloves on. This In my opinion can decide for future customers if this is the right phone for them

 

[Rocket Man]

#FirstWorldProblems

What a non-issue. Here is every possible solution or work-around:

1) Buy the gloves that *do* work - some do as the article suggests
2) Use your nose
3) Assistive touch
4) Camera roll passcode work-around
5) Take off your glove for 2 seconds - there's no where on planet earth where this will freeze your finger off
6) Turn off your passcode
7) Wait till you're somewhere warmer

This generation has grown up to be a bunch of entitled, whiny children.

Yeah how dare we expect our $900 dollar phones to behave in a natural way. Entitled and whiny indeed!

 

[Nhlanhlo]

I'm not sure how that follows.

I was saying that the home button won't work at all with gloves on--not just for unlocking. So if you're in an app and want to go to the homescreen, you won't be able to (without assistive touch). If you want to pull up multi-tasking, you won't be able to.

I think people are confused because Touch ID is what is being used to recognize a press in all these situations, even when it's unrelated to unlocking the phone and Touch ID technology. It's the metal Touch ID ring that's being used--not the fingerprint scan. They probably did it this way because otherwise pressing anywhere near the home button would be interpreted as a press or tap, as it's all one solid surface.

 

[Pamela5]

Well, if you have gloves on you wouldn't be able to use your phone anyways as the touchscreen wouldn't work so I don't see this as an issue personally.

 

[panzer06]

Remember folks, some people wear gloves ALL THE TIME...

Mickey and his peeps are probably some of the very few in FL or Southern CA that might regularly wear gloves.

 

[GoodWheaties]

But of course capacitive gloves do work, as countless people have demonstrated, so you might want to hesitate a bit before you call other people imbeciles.

Yes some, but not all, capacitive gloves appear to work, but that is not going to work for people who use latex gloves such as people in the medical field, food industry, or simply people who use them to clean. Those gloves are thin enough to let the touchscreen work but will not make the button activate. I just think it is quite silly for people to simply say "Who uses their phone when its cold" or "You can't remove your glove for 2 seconds to unlock your phone?" or be ignorant enough to say "You can't use your phone with gloves anyway" (capacitive gloves are clearly stated in the article) when they have no idea of other peoples situations. Perhaps I used too strong of language. Latex gloves are often single use so every time you take them off you have to get another pair. Or it takes 5 minutes to turn them back right side out again. However it does appear that 3D Touch can replicate most of the function of the home button if people remember to use it.

 

[Jimmy James]

Well now, Apple, it's time to take the gloves off.

 

[Kajje]

We all need to go back to a Nokia candybar or a Blackberry. These most definitely could be easily operated with thick gloves. And at 70% power loss in cold temperatures the Nokia still would standby for the better part of the millenium.

 

[ManicMuncher]

Thank you guys for actually understanding this issue. I was beginning to think everyone on this forum was an imbecile lacking reading comprehension.

You just swipe right twice to get to passcode screen or swipe once and tap an app or widget.
To access the multitasking you just hold down 3D Touch on left side of screen.

 

[Roadstar]

Great post!
Lol, before today I was unaware that so many people fit the INCREDIBLY narrow scope of those that:
1)don't use TouchID
2)don't have a passcode
3)cannot access the info they're after using the "raise to wake" feature
4)are constantly wearing thick gloves
5)desperately need access, not just to their notifications; but to view their actual home screen that they CANNOT interact with because of the gloves they're wearing...

I mean: that sounds SUPER reaching to me!

Did you actually read any of the comments? If you did, I'd like to know how exactly you concluded that people complaining about this issue wouldn't use TouchID or passcode?
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Well, if you have gloves on you wouldn't be able to use your phone anyways as the touchscreen wouldn't work so I don't see this as an issue personally.

Reading the article and possibly some of the comments before commenting is highly recommended. Capacitive gloves are mentioned multiple times and the fact that the phone can be operated almost to its full extent with them.
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Well, yes. Doesn't really change anything. Only people who used neither passcode nor Touch ID were previously able to open their phones without skin contact, and then weren't able to do anything else on the phone while open.

This doesn't restrict anything.

If you had bothered to read the article and the thread, you'd know by now that your assumption is false.

 

[XxRogerxX]

I don't know if I'm the only one but I keep having trouble pressing it twice quickly to bring up apps so I can close them.

U could use 3d touch on left side of the screen that should help

 

[aardwolf]

Mickey and his peeps are probably some of the very few in FL or Southern CA that might regularly where gloves.

Mickey could use his ears, tail, or nose to unlock his phone. I use my nose to answer a phone call in cold weather when I'm all bundled up.

 

[kd5jos]

I think it's a pretty big deal. I use latex gloves for work all the time and the iPhone 6 screen was always pretty good at responding even with the gloves on. I just tried my new iPhone 7 matte black 128gb with gloves and the home button is not responding at all. I can still move around on the touch screen, like texting and what not. But I just tried to leave the safari app by touching the home button and I cannot go home. There is no way for me to leave any app if I have the gloves on let alone unlocking the screen. I have to physically take off my glove to unlock or leave an app or use the multitask gesture. Which is strange since I can still use the touch screen like normal but the home button has become completely useless with gloves on. This In my opinion can decide for future customers if this is the right phone for them

YOU think it's a pretty big deal for your corner case...

My wife is a nurse. She spends all day in and out of latex/nitrile gloves. I asked her opinion on touching the phone while wearing gloves...

"That's disgusting. Why would I touch my phone with latex/nitrile gloves on if I'm trying to protect myself by wearing gloves? Anything that gets on my gloves will be transferred to the surface of the phone... If the point is to protect myself by wearing the gloves, why would I be stupid enough to touch my phone while wearing them?"

 

[rodricav]

We reinvented the gloves. Please welcome iGloves. Only US$99.

 

[johnfrombeyond]

Not sure how this is really an issue. All you could do before, assuming you have touch ID enabled, is check the lock screen by pressing the button with gloves on.

Agreed. And apparently nobody who writes these articles have tried iOS 10 yet, because it has a "raise to wake" feature on by default which will work with oven mitts on.
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no - as article says

"Raise to wake" is on by default folks, this is a non-issue. You have same functionality as before.