"Raise to wake" does nothing if you need to access the phone itself instead of just the lock screen or notifications.
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iPhone 7 Home Button Requires Capacitive Touch to Work
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"Raise to wake" does nothing if you need to access the phone itself instead of just the lock screen or notifications.
- Quit the hostile attitude, please.
I did read the article and a good portion of the thread. And I do realise there are extremely rare cases where this new Home button does restrict use, namely those in which one doesn't use Touch ID, does use a passcode, finds oneself in cold weather, and wears capacitive gloves rather than ordinary gloves. I'd wager those circumstances only ever occur to less than 1 in 10,000 users, and then only rarely during the year.
So yes, I wasn't entirely accurate, but that wasn't really the point. The point was to say that the number of users who are going to be bothered by this is so small as to approach irrelevance.
I think this is just the precursor to eliminating the home button, has previously been rumored. If the rumors that say the home button will be embedded under the glass, you would need skin contact. So, all the folks that want Apple to remove the home button, this is going to be the way it is, having to have skin contact.
I'm a firefighter/paramedic.
We keep our protocols and references on our phones in an app. Before I could press the home button and type in my code with my medical gloves on...now, I can't.
The issue is that the screen recognizes the finger but the sensor isn't accepting it or pressure.
This isn't awful. But it's certainly not good either.
Sorry about the tone, it was just getting really frustrating when people keep making the same false assumptions in the thread over and over avain. You also still mention not using TouchID or passcode as a prerequisite for this scenario. That's simply not true. I have both enabled and I've used my iPhone with capacitive gloves so many times I've lost the count ages ago. Naturally TouchID won't work with capacitive gloves, but that's when the passcode fallback is used. As the passcode is given using regular touch controls, capacitive gloves work just fine with that. If you just can click the home button to enter that prompt, that is. When you live somewhere with at least one third of the year being cold enough to require gloves and many gloves come with capacitive capabilities and are available broadly and inexpensively, it's a much more common scenario than 1 in 10000.
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- Alright. The scenario has never occurred to me, and I'd rather temporarily take off my already existing gloves in order to use Touch ID than buy new gloves and be forced to enter a passcode each time.
But I don't live in Finland, of course. It does get cold up there based on my trip some years ago around October/November.
Though I mentioned not using Touch ID and using passcode as a prerequisite (not not using a passcode), meaning one elects to unlock with a passcode rather than Touch ID. You can have Touch ID enabled, but you can't use it. I get how my "doesn't use Touch ID" could be understodd to mean not having Touch ID enabled, but I just meant not using it in the situation.
Still, the only thing that's limited is the ability to wake up the phone using the Home button with gloves on. And that's solved by using either Raise to Wake or pressing the Sleep/Wake button. You can still enter a passcode to unlock if you wish.
You don't ever need to press or touch the Home button.
Something that will affect far more people, in my view, is the inability to press the Home button using a fingernail, which I'm sure lots of people do from time to time.
Well, as my regular light gloves are capacitive (these are readily available and quite inexpensive, so many have them), having to input the passcode is less of a nuisance than dealing with removing the glove and putting it back on afterwards as that typically requires help from the other hand as well and that might already be occupied by a grocery bag, baby stroller or whatever while passcode unlock is a one-handed operation.
The problem here is that raise to wake or the sleep/wake button doesn't really help. Yes, you'll get to the lock screen, but from there you need to be able to press Home to unlock with iOS 10. If the "swipe to unlock" functionality from older iOS versions were still there, this wouldn't be an issue, but now with iOS 10 it's mandatory to press the home button to bring up the passcode prompt (or configure in accessibility settings just to require resting finger there, but that in turn requires TouchID which isn't available with gloves). So this combination of the new home button and iOS 10 changes is somewhat problematic for capacitive gloves.
There is a better way to work around this then turning on AssistiveTouch.
1. Use raise to wake or sleep/wake button to turn on the screen.
2. Swipe right to get to your widgets.
3. Select any of the widget and the passcode prompt will show up.
Edit: I just realized that this will only get you to the app you chose in the widget screen and there will be no way of getting to your home screen with gloves on.
Edit 2: Solution has been written before, sorry! The 3D press on the left side of the screen to access multitasking is a work around to access other apps!
1. Use raise to wake or sleep/wake button to turn on the screen.
2. Swipe right to get to your widgets.
3. Select any of the widget and the passcode prompt will show up.
Edit: I just realized that this will only get you to the app you chose in the widget screen and there will be no way of getting to your home screen with gloves on.
Edit 2: Solution has been written before, sorry! The 3D press on the left side of the screen to access multitasking is a work around to access other apps!
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This is a partial solution indeed. With 3D touch you can get to the latest apps, which works if the app you need to access is in the history stack reasonably close to the top. Still somewhat convoluted compared to just pressing the home button and getting in. This also requires that lock screen access to widgets is enabled. I had it turned off for a while as it seemed like my Authy (2-factor authentication) data was visible without unlocking the phone. However, it turned out to be open from my previous successful unlocking and trying again a little later showed the actual authentication tokens as locked before I actually unlocked the phone, so I returned the access into use.
The real solution would be a swipe direction that brings up the passcode screen...like swiping up from anywhere inside the screen, not from the edge to get you to the passcode window.
Just some way of being able to reach the code screen...
- No you don't, and no it isn't, as I mentioned and as Labbe explained. Though it's true you can't then just quit the app you launched from widgets, since you can't use the Home button.
I still tend to think this is hunting around for a problem where there isn't really one.
solution:
just tap the home button within assistive touch to bring up the passcode screen.
(you must have assistive touch enabled in settings to do this.)
i signed up just to get this posted. my favorite feature in macrumors is the comments section. the layout of it is very nice.
just tap the home button within assistive touch to bring up the passcode screen.
(you must have assistive touch enabled in settings to do this.)
i signed up just to get this posted. my favorite feature in macrumors is the comments section. the layout of it is very nice.
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(1) space was saved, (2) waterproofing was made easier, and, most importantly, (3) it sounds fancy in marketing materials.
So 11 pages in & no-one has mentioned that coffee guy on the front page is wearing gloves, am I missing something?
iPhone 7 and 7 Plus Survive Hot Coffee, Soda, and the Ocean in New Videos
iPhone 7 and 7 Plus Survive Hot Coffee, Soda, and the Ocean in New Videos
Hmmm...
Sooooooo..... are you saying that you don't believe iPhone 7 can be unlocked, EVEN WITH capacitive touch gloves on??
I thought that the article said they could unlock it with gloves.... & as is mentioned above: a force touch on left of screen activates multitasking.
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Currently the home button is totally unusable if there's a layer between it. I went for a run and put it in my belkin running armband and couldn't switch between apps with a double tap. Kind of annoying, might just try to cut a hole in the plastic.
Some capacitive gloves work with the new home button, but some don't even though they work with the iPhone 7 otherwise. It would be nice to know what makes the difference.
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Yes, that's a workaround I missed initially as I had widget access from the lock screen disabled. This is a workaround, but it's still jumping through extra hoops for something that used to be a straightforward operation.
I feel bad that you went through all the comments to pick your favorites and make a lame response.
As discovered by Myke Hurley (via Daring Fireball), some iPhone 7 and 7 Plus users are going to have a tough time unlocking their devices during wintertime. As it turns out, the new "solid-state" Home button on the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus requires skin contact or the right kind of capacitive gloves to function.
If you put on a pair of gloves or cover your finger with the sleeve of a shirt and attempt to open the iPhone 7, access the Home screen, exit out of an app, or activate multitasking, the Home button will not respond to a press unless it's touching skin. And because the iPhone 7 uses the redesigned Lock screen in iOS 10, there's no quick and easy way to bring up the passcode entry screen to unlock the phone manually (the quickest way sans Home button is to swipe to the widgets screen and tap one).
We tested with a pair of gloves that are designed for touch screens and while we could unlock the iPhone 6s Plus with the gloves and use the touch screen, that wasn't possible with the iPhone 7 Plus -- the Home button wouldn't activate. There are mixed reports on Twitter from people with capacitive gloves, and while some work, others do not appear to. It may vary based on the material and construction of the gloves. Latex gloves also do not activate the Home button, but will activate the display.
The redesigned Home button in the iPhone 7 is no longer a physical button -- it's flush with the iPhone and uses haptic feedback to give the sensation of button presses. Because it's requiring capacitive contact to unlock the device, it's likely the iPhone 7 is using the Touch ID fingerprint sensor to register touch.
While capacitive contact is required to unlock the phone, the new "Raise to Wake" functionality still allows the Lock screen to be viewed without a touch, so it continues to be possible to view incoming notifications. Fully unlocking the phone will require a free finger that's unobscured by fabric or one of the brands of capacitive gloves that are functional.
Update: As MacRumors forum members point out, there is the option of turning on AssistiveTouch in Accessibility, which offers a way to bypass the home button with screen-only control options.
Article Link: iPhone 7 Home Button Requires Capacitive Touch to Work
I think people will use their noses this winter
http://news.softpedia.com/news/unlo...ght-become-a-thing-in-the-winter-508438.shtml
