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iPhone 7 Home Button Requires Capacitive Touch to Work

swingerofbirch said:
I think people are confused because Touch ID is what is being used to recognize a press in all these situations, even when it's unrelated to unlocking the phone and Touch ID technology. It's the metal Touch ID ring that's being used--not the fingerprint scan. They probably did it this way because otherwise pressing anywhere near the home button would be interpreted as a press or tap, as it's all one solid surface.
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I don't think so. Otherwise putting a finger on the touchID sensor and then pressing with another finger *right next to it* should activate it. It doesn't. Even on the lightest sensitivity.

I bet the pressure sensor isn't electrically wired to the touchID functionality, which means they could just "fix" this with an option in settings... e.g. any pressure on the circle can register a click.
 
keifer.street said:
I'm not sure English is your first language based on your grammar, but I sincerely hope you can sense irony because you proved my point (on an entitled, whiny, childish generation) with your reply.
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How is our generation entitled, whiny and childish generation? Just because I don't agree whatever a Apple gives us? Are we suppose treat Apple like the God where we follow its teaching?

**** that man. If iPhone 7's new design requires us to buy new glove or put up with the new design and along removing 3.5mm jack, then I am not buying it.
 
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Mascots said:
Capacitive gloves allow a capacitive signal through the material, which trigger the home button, which registers the force. That's why they are called capacitive gloves. It will work as before.

Edit. Or maybe not? I highly doubt that though. If your gloves will register force touch, they'll will register the button.
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People are saying it doesn't, or at least not as reliably and this may be if Apple has programmed the button to require passing Touch ID to register a press. If they have that seems like an oversight and fixable via a software or firmware patch one would hope.

I can see this would be a minor but certainly not a non-issue. Physically pressing the button without Touch ID working would've brought up the passcode entry on earlier models. If the physical press now requires passing Touch ID that will rule most if not all capacitive gloves out from the phone which would've worked before. You'd need fingertip-less gloves or turn Touch ID off.

Sux to live in a climate where this is an issue! Maybe Jobs would've said "Move somewhere warmer"!
 
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alexmarchuk said:
Sooo relevant. lol



I'm sorry, but what handicaps would make this an issue? No fingers? Then why are you using an iPhone?




Particularly if you have an alphanumeric password with symbols and all. Mine is 28 characters.
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LOL... Thought mine was long at 13 characters!
 
I live in Norway, and when skiing, I always use my nose to unlock my iPhone while taking the ski lift. It works, but you look a bit like a ****.
This should still work, no?
 
LovingTeddy said:
How is our generation entitled, whiny and childish generation? Just because I don't agree whatever a Apple gives us? Are we suppose treat Apple like the God where we follow its teaching?

**** that man. If iPhone 7's new design requires us to buy new glove or put up with the new design and along removing 3.5mm jack, then I am not buying it.
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Not at all! Apple is somewhat different than most companies as they have a design and product ethic that they believe in. That's the way it's always been. You can sometimes agree with it, sometimes disagree but later find common ground, or never agree! As an Apple customer though you view the WHOLE and while again there may be some things you disagree with, for example not wanting to remove a glove or buy a $9 3.5mm Lightning sleeve, there are other things such as software updates, great software, great eco-system, great support, and great quality design and build. You have to add it up and make your own decision! Just know that there are others with a different set of feature priorities. I trust you will be happy for many years with a 6s or 6s Plus, and if not go to another platform.
 
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After reading part way through, the answer seems to be:
Enable Assistive Touch.
Use capacitive gloves as before.

Press the power button, then use Assistive Touch to mimic the Home button. Enter your passcode. Use your touchscreen with your capacitive gloves as normal. Continue using Assistive Touch when you need to mimic the Home button.

Unless I misunderstand something.
 
BvizioN said:
Are you serious? How many people do you think buy these special capacitive gloves? Probably some supper geek!!
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Millions and millions and millions of those gloves are sold every year when the weather gets colder in Northern parts of China like Bejing. Take a lot of Chinese and double that as the major part of them have 2 hands.
 
Kajje said:
Millions and millions and millions of those gloves are sold every year when the weather gets colder in Northern parts of China like Bejing. Take a lot of Chinese and double that as the major part of them have 2 hands.
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Yeah but 2 million gloves sold is probably 1 million pairs. lol
 
terraphantm said:
I'm surprised at how many people aren't reading the article. Capacitive gloves that work with the screen apparently don't work with the home button.
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Agreed, are people seriously this stupid and narrow minded? This is going to effect millions of people who live ( by choice ) in colder climates and in my case, are outdoor professionals.

I have full confidence that Apple will address this because it is actually a pretty big freakin deal!
 
Macshroomer said:
Agreed, are people seriously this stupid and narrow minded? This is going to effect millions of people who live ( by choice ) in colder climates and in my case, are outdoor professionals.

I have full confidence that Apple will address this because it is actually a pretty big freakin deal!
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If it's vital for your career, don't upgrade? I mean there is nothing that states Apple must make a phone that must not hinder your workflow currently.
 
alexmarchuk said:
If it's vital for your career, don't upgrade? I mean there is nothing that states Apple must make a phone that must not hinder your workflow currently.
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Millions of people affected means it is more than just my career. They will fix it, they have to.
 
alexmarchuk said:
Yeah but 2 million gloves sold is probably 1 million pairs. lol
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I doubt anyone complaining in this thread has ever used an iPhone in the cold cause if you have you would know that it will shut off at 50 percent battery in 35-40 Fdegree weather so it's really a moot point.

Every iPhone I've used since the 5 has had this problem. I know is anecdotal but ive had a 5 5s 6 6s and every one has had this problem to some extent at temps above freezing.

At temps where you actually need gloves
10-15 F or below your phone is not going to operate anyway.
 
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Macshroomer said:
Millions of people affected means it is more than just my career. They will fix it, they have to.
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No they really do not. It's a capacative button, it functions in the same way as the Touch ID, cry about it all you want, but we will just get back to the headphone jack debate.
 
powertoold said:
Uh, can't you just use those touch screen friendly gloves? Why would you use regular gloves to press the home button anyway? You can't use the phone after anyway...
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Th physical button still worked to exit apps, bring up assistive touch, etc. while wearing gloves, and then worked with a stylus for the rest. If it requires Touch ID then it becomes a pain to use in winter, for example. You could also bring up Siri with gloves as well.
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mchammer187 said:
At temps where you actually need gloves
10-15 F or below your phone is not going to operate anyway.
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Not all gloves are worn in freezing weather.
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yoak said:
I live in Norway, and when skiing, I always use my nose to unlock my iPhone while taking the ski lift. It works, but you look a bit like a ****.
This should still work, no?
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Only the nose knows for sure. An interesting idea, I may try that, even if only to raise eyebrows in a meeting.
 
mchammer187 said:
I doubt anyone complaining in this thread has ever used an iPhone in the cold cause if you have you would know that it will shut off at 50 percent battery in 35-40 Fdegree weather so it's really a moot point.
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I have, but I wasn't going to bring that one to this thread as we have other cold weather issues to deal with here.
 
jclo said:
I've only seen one guy say that his touchscreen gloves work. Two pairs of mine don't and I've seen several other tweets that they don't work, so I don't know for sure what the situation is or what the gloves he has do that mine don't.
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His gloves were made by Apple.
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allOfSomething said:
I just tried it with nitrile surgical gloves and it works fine with those.
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Thanks, i'm going to buy a shed load of these and sell them on eBay as "iPhone 7 compatible"
 
alexmarchuk said:
No they really do not. It's a capacative button, it functions in the same way as the Touch ID, cry about it all you want, but we will just get back to the headphone jack debate.
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Oh, I am not crying about it, because I know people at Apple and I know for a fact that they will create a fix / fast workaround through the iOS.

So get over your self.
 
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