Enough with the thiness! How about they focus on battery life. With smartphones becoming more and more powerful the battery life suffers. Apple needs to be focuses on battery size and life instead of trying to lose weight.
Apple have neither stated that the 3.5 is gone, or that they will replace with them with a lighting headphone alternative.I don't plan on buying wired headphones anymore, Bluetooth has just been too convenient since I bought wireless headphones. So, I don't really mind if they get rid of the headphone jack (being selfish, I don't personally need it anymore).
On the other hand, I really can't see why anyone should switch to lightning port headphones. You are buying headphones that, at least without an adapter, can be used by no other devices. Headphones were always REALLY versatile because most used the 3.5mm.
So, I would advise everyone to not buy stupid lightning connector headphones, just get wireless. I know quality is degraded somewhat, but if you really care that much about the quality you probably weren't using 3.5 anyway.
The answer is not to switch to a stupid proprietary connector. Just get wireless. Why, Apple, would we want to buy expensive headphones just to use your one gadget. It's really not cool. Just go wireless, people. Or, if you really support 3.5, switch phone brands.
Apple are focussed on battery life. and weight. and thinness. and every aspect of design and user experience. It's not one or another, it's all aspects in balance. Battery life is not just about battery capacity. More efficient components, improvements in iOS are all just as important. A bigger battery is no more the only solution to battery life than a bigger internal hard drive is the only solution to storage.Enough with the thiness! How about they focus on battery life. With smartphones becoming more and more powerful the battery life suffers. Apple needs to be focuses on battery size and life instead of trying to lose weight.
Their is no real reason what so ever to remove the headphone port apart from for Apple to make even more profit, people should really realise this
Lol - I'm sure including a pair of BT headphones with each phone sold will save no money at all, nor will the dropping of a 2cent component. What they gain is potential increased water resistance, more room for battery and the potential for more evolved headphones and better audio quality.Amen!
Here's how it goes...
Rumors: many complain and say they'll never buy an Apple product again.
Launch... many complain and proclaim disappointment and "fail".
3 Months later... iPhone sells at record numbers and Samsung announces their version of the same.
2 years later... everything people complained about 2 years prior they now accept as the "norm" and claim Apple stole the idea from someone else.
This is how it works... accept it.![]()
Ive must have nightmares at night......
Must make iPhone thinner must make iPhone thinner must make iPhone thinner..
They are waaayyy too obsessed with thinness for no reason or gain.
Their is no real reason what so ever to remove the headphone port apart from for Apple to make even more profit, people should really realise this, a set standard used for years and years and Apple want to change it when no one has been asking for it to be changed. In fact I remember devices that ditched the traditional headphone jack and provided adapters and they never did too well.
Sony also manage VERY VERY well to make their devices fully watertight with both fully exposed USB AND headphone ports so that is no reason either.
Is it really that hard for Apple to listen to it's customers and actually give MORE battery life? Not the same or less battery life just to accommodate a thinner phone?
Lol - I'm sure including a pair of BT headphones with each phone sold will save no money at all, nor will the dropping of a 2cent component. What they gain is potential increased water resistance, more room for battery and the potential for more evolved headphones and better audio quality.
Plenty of reasons.
potential for more evolved headphones and better audio quality.
A switch to lightning would actually have multiple benefits:
- it would allow higher quality digital audio.
No need to ditch the 3.5mm jack for this as it's is already supported.A switch to lightning would actually have multiple benefits:
- it would allow higher quality digital audio.
Enough with the thiness! How about they focus on battery life. With smartphones becoming more and more powerful the battery life suffers. Apple needs to be focuses on battery size and life instead of trying to lose weight.
True, but in a notebook that doesn't really count as a port. Even Apple on its website advertise the MacBook as a single port notebook. Go check yourself in the Design section.Except the Retina MacBook doesn't have a single port. It has two, and the second port is a single function 3.5mm audio jack.
Apple have neither stated that the 3.5 is gone, or that they will replace with them with a lighting headphone alternative.
Apple want us wireless, the solution they provide out of the box will be wireless. And of course BT headphones etc will continue to improve in quality and latency reduced. DACs in the headphones, rather than in the phone, give the potential for better sound quality also, given time and development.
I'd buy 'lightning headphones' if provided by a third-party supplier for their advantages however - voltage and data passthrough - controls on headphones/cables, digital displays with track info, latest text message - there is a lot of potential here. But I don't see Apple taking that route as they will clearly phase out all ports and mechanical switches from the iPhone as soon as technically feasible. This is their opportunity to lose a cable, not change one.
No, it makes a lot of sense.
The flaw in your position is that you assume EVERYONE is just like you; i.e. wanting greater battery life, with zero consequences as a result. However, everybody is not just like you. People have different needs.
In reality, most people understand that nothing comes for free or with zero design consequences, that is, much greater phone weight for two day or more battery life.
For those that need longer battery life, people with heavy travel needs for example, third party manufacturers (and now Apple) have options to address that. With the consequence of greater weight (and bulk).
Offering greater weight/bulk longer life battery options for the few whose needs require longer battery life (at extra cost) makes a lot more sense than imposing adverse design consequences on the many who are fine with a one day battery.
Still not sure about this one. Why include the 3.5mm headphone jack on the Retina MacBook and then drop it from the iPhone so quickly after? Especially since the only other jack on the MacBook is the USB-C connector.
Absolutely false. The existing headphone connection is not and will never be a limitation to the audio quality, and the existing Lightning port already outputs a digital stream if you want to connect your own outboard DAC.
No need to ditch the 3.5mm jack for this as it's is already supported.
Those aren't facts. These are facts:I agree with the generic statement of your post. People do have different needs.
However, what we have here is the tactic "I create a problem in order to sell you the solution afterwards".
What I mean is based on the following 2 facts (regarding - at the very least - the last 2 versions of iPhone):
1. Nobody asked for an even thinner iPhone
2. Everyone would love a longer battery life (even people that can live with the current one)
It already does that.OK - maybe that wasn't the correct terminology, but from some stuff I have read, there does seem to be some suggestion of benefits, e.g. from here:
http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/would-i...to-remove-the-headphone-jack-on-the-iphone-7/
"What are the benefits? Well, not only are you getting a direct digital connection, but the headphones can draw juice from your device to power components in the headphone, which could include an internal DAC (digital-to-analog converter) and amplifier that bypass the internal DAC of the iPhone and/or active noise-cancellation circuitry."
It already does that.
I agree with the generic statement of your post. People do have different needs.
However, what we have here is the tactic "I create a problem in order to sell you the solution afterwards".
What I mean is based on the following 2 facts (regarding - at the very least - the last 2 versions of iPhone):
1. Nobody asked for an even thinner iPhone
2. Everyone would love a longer battery life (even people that can live with the current one)
Ive must have nightmares at night......
Must make iPhone thinner must make iPhone thinner must make iPhone thinner..
They are waaayyy too obsessed with thinness for no reason or gain.
Their is no real reason what so ever to remove the headphone port apart from for Apple to make even more profit, people should really realise this, a set standard used for years and years and Apple want to change it when no one has been asking for it to be changed. In fact I remember devices that ditched the traditional headphone jack and provided adapters and they never did too well.
Sony also manage VERY VERY well to make their devices fully watertight with both fully exposed USB AND headphone ports so that is no reason either.
Is it really that hard for Apple to listen to it's customers and actually give MORE battery life? Not the same or less battery life just to accommodate a thinner phone?
It's one of the advantages of the digital output through the Lightning port but it already does it and doesn't require the elimination of the 3.5mm jack.OK - so why are so many media outlets citing this as a benefit of lightning over the 3.5mm jack?
"in an effort to make the device even thinner than the iPhone 6s"
The question is who is asking for this? Thinner phone means thinner battery and about the same battery life we've been getting lately.