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If it's all wireless, how am I supposed to listen to music while being on airplane mode and not violating any FAA law?

I never had a problem listening to music via my wireless speakers. It's not a problem these days
 
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Apple may well use the ending of support for the 3.5mm headphone jack as an excuse to stop bundling free headphones with new iPhones entirely.

bingo.. they'd rather you buy some beats. bluetooth or i'm sure with lightning soon :)
 
Like I said in the other thead(s), this seems like a change just for changes sake. Something to make the next model seem different.

The 3.5mm jack is such a widely used feature of the iPhone - if they really did remove it, it's just another example of how modern Apple puts saless/marketing opportunity ahead of delivering a great user experience. Remember when Apple used provide an amazing, fun, easy, hassle free experience? A time before adapters and other workarounds to get core functions to work properly.

Without the headphone jack, the iPhone would not meet my requirements in a $1000+ AUD phone, which would really be a shame. If true, I plan on sticking with the 6S for as long as I can.
 
isn't it extremely early for iphone 7 rumors?
I don't think Tim Cook even knows how exactly the iphone 7 will turn out to be

Are u kidding me? They're probably planning the iPhone 8 as we speak, if not the 8s
 
It's about time Apple stopped bundling in headphones with the iPhone, most must just get thrown away and how many people actually use headphones with their iPhone anymore. It seems the fashion of constantly listening to music has died out. You used to see tons of people walking around with little white earphone in, but not so more.

Apple really need to do something massive to make the iPhone interesting again. iPhone 6 was great by increasing the screen size but then that is it, nothing really more to add or be excited about. I haven't found anyone that uses touch id as it rarely works and all the other changes like active photos are just nice to have tweaks. A fundamental change like making the device waterproof, wireless charging, etc would be good. Hardware innovations seems to have died the death since the iPhone came along and all the competition do is copy it. Yes hardware has got thiner and faster and can run apps but apart from the Apps is anything else really of interest.
 
In order for Bluetooth audio to make advances, the cheap, ubiquitous 3.5mm adapter needs to go away. Otherwise, people are going to cling to the cheapest, easiest, best sounding alternative available.
Are you saying that something that is more expensive, more complicated and doesn't sound as good is a better option? :confused:
 
I use the 3.5 Audio Jack everyday on my iPhone. So long as the adaptor is in the box, this can just live on the end of my earphones. I won't notice any difference.
 
Haha, this is internet 101.

Collect all iPhone 7 rumors, check which rumor has the most sources, rewrite article and claim that you received the same information. Mark Sullivan you are a idiot, stop lying to your readers, you fool.
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It's about time Apple stopped bundling in headphones with the iPhone, most must just get thrown away and how many people actually use headphones with their iPhone anymore. It seems the fashion of constantly listening to music has died out. You used to see tons of people walking around with little white earphone in, but not so more.

Apple really need to do something massive to make the iPhone interesting again. iPhone 6 was great by increasing the screen size but then that is it, nothing really more to add or be excited about. I haven't found anyone that uses touch id as it rarely works and all the other changes like active photos are just nice to have tweaks. A fundamental change like making the device waterproof, wireless charging, etc would be good. Hardware innovations seems to have died the death since the iPhone came along and all the competition do is copy it. Yes hardware has got thiner and faster and can run apps but apart from the Apps is anything else really of interest.

Get thrown away? I always use my Apple earpods and for a $799 device they should be included.
 
REMOVE THE JACK. Apple if you listen to people...probably even now we had floppy disk and optical drive...so dont listen do what do you best. THe other companies can keep the jack but we all know that after 2 years they also will remove it
 
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Apple killed the CD, point and shoot cameras, Flash, Netbooks, etc. Next up, the 3.5mm headphone jack.

Thank goodness. It's a very old technology that is kind of limited when you get into the noise-canceling headphones that need power. If you use just a lightning cable, I'm pretty sure that means you could get rid of the battery in those headphones.

It also means more room inside the phone for engineers to put various other stuff. That and thinness are why this MacBook Air doesn't have a floppy disk drive, optical drive or hard disk drive. People kicked and screamed about those until they found out that when you have a better way of doing things, you miss the old way less and less. Nobody uses floppies anymore. Fewer people use optical discs each year. Hard disks are only good for being cheap and mass storage. The speed difference with flash storage makes me almost not care that I have only 128GB on here versus the 500GB I had in a MacBook Pro back in the day. Also 12-hour battery life.

Maybe this will force wireless headphone prices down more. Wired networking used to be about the only thing until wireless got fast enough and cheap enough to be pretty much the personal computing standard. Nobody moans about the lack of a built-in wired networking port on portable Macs. We found a better way, and there are adapters if you need to go wired.
 
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You've just echoes every sentiment from their "customers" over the last 25 years. And like them you are wrong. Many people want thinner and lighter phones but that's not the point. The point is that as soon as they make phons thinner (hint: they will and so will everyone else) you will want one just like everyone else. That's what Apple does and that's what their customers do and the that's what their competition does. The day Apple makes a thicker phone for a few extra hours of battery life is the day I bail out because no one will be pushing the industry towards the future some of us know we already want.

I see, so you like to be told by the market and in particular Apple what it is you actually like as you have no taste or the ability to think for yourself? Well I certainly can so despite your comment, I don't want a thinner phone thanks, I'll keep my 6S but if the battery life was the same or less on an iPhone 7 I'd most likely go back to Android where I can have the features 'I' want not what Apple thinks I want.
And a hint back to you, not everyone wants a thinner iPhone.
Apple isn't going to be pushing the industry forward? Why on earth do you think making a phone thinner is moving things forward when it's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist or that the masses have. Samsung is definitely moving the mobile industry forward as they are introducing bendable screens this year, LG is also moving forward with this technology, much more exciting then a thinner phone with less features.

Is it really that hard for Apple to listen to it's customers and actually give MORE battery life? Not the same or less battery life just to accommodate a thinner phone?
Apple have no reason to think that they are not listening to their customers. Increasing sales numbers year on year tell them all they want to know. Whilst I may not like it, I am but one person among millions and even of the many others that may also disagree with any bad decisions they might make, (yes - even fanboys), they will still go out and purchase the phones convincing themselves that it’s better.

Sales numbers are pretty much the only metric big conglomerates listen to.

I think the fact Apple has cut iPhone 6S and 6S Plus production by 30% for the quarter tells you exactly about their sales figures, worst then the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus. People are not going to upgrade for a thinner phone with less features.
 
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It wont look at all bad if you think about it ... especially with some kind of adapter for normal headphones.
 

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Before people panic over Apple's obsession with thinness, realize removing the 3.5mm jack would save some internal space regardless of how thin the iPhone 7 will be. That means that the iPhone 7 could have the same thickness as the 6 while having a larger battery due to internal space saved.

Two components would be removed by this move, the relatively large 3.5mm jack module and the DAC (digital to analog converter), which would now be integrated in headphones rather than inside your phone. The DAC is one of the largest component on the PCB right now, I believe only the SoC, NAND and LTE modem are larger.

Personally, I don't think the iPhone 7 should be thinner than the 6, but I would still appreciate if the 3.5mm jack got removed.

On top of the saved internal space, moving to Lightning provides certain benefits:
  • Possibility of using a DAC that's better than the one in the iPhone in high-end headphones.
  • Less degradation due to the transmission through an analog cable. Also less likely to hear a hiss when moving the jack due to dust etc.
  • Possibility of headphones recharging your phone or vice-versa. Particularly useful for docks and soundboxes that both charge your phone and play music using a single cable.
  • Possibility of sending additional data from your headphones to your phone. Stuff like battery level in noise-cancelling headphones. Or increased reliability and features of headphone remotes.
While I can understand that to you the possible increase in battery size offsets the drawbacks of the 3.5 jack removal, to others it just does not play out that way.
The increase in battery may be offset by using wireless headphones instead...plus adding the hassle of having to charge yet another device. Also, if you ever forget your headphones, you can get a cheap pair to get by on that day/trip...very unlikely to be true for lightning headphones or adapters...

Apart from that, those advantages you list are in no way dependant on the removal of the 3.5 jack...the lightning port is already there, and so is the possibility to produce headphones for it but only very few have been annonced or even produced. I guess one factor for this is the proprietary nature of the lightning port...even though my income would easily allow me to buy something like the fidelio lightning headphones, I am not willing to spend that amount of cash on a port that locks me with one product and most likely for a limited time as apple will most likely not stick with lightning for the next decade...

Anyway, as with many other things regarding the iPhone, one's personal usage is potentially so vastly different from someone else's, I do not think there are ultimately rigth product decisions...only the right product for your personal usage pattern. To me, and anyone else is welcome to a different conclusion, the removal of the 3.5 jack would be the final dealbreaker after battery size reduction and thinning the phone too much so the carea sticks out the back...
 
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Apple now has people from Beats..so from hardware standpoint they have the team to make lightning better since they already increase the quality of Solo 2 wireless and the speakers from Macbook that sound better than any macbook air and 13" macbook pro on that tiny space
 
One day the phones will become so thin that we'll need to buy a case just to be able to pick them up ;)
 
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I betcha the vast, vast majority of you complainers will own a jack-less iPhone 7 or 7S at some point in the next 3 years and will be happy with the alternative solution Apple provides.
 
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They better have wireless charging!

Wireless charging only makes sense if it means you can put a phone close to a normal socket and it will charge (Yes, I know that is not possible yet). If it still needs a dedicated puck that I need to rest it on then all the advantages are void. It would mean I would need to buy one of those for the living room, the study, work etc etc. What is exactly the difference between plugging a cable or putting a phone on a puck?
 
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I would welcome this change, but I also wonder how I am going to charge my device while I am in a call with someone on Facetime in a room full of other people? It has to be both, and I won't like walking around everywhere with yet another accessory.
 
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