iPhone 7 Plus Camera 'Ideal for Shooting Outdoor Adventures'

[now i see it]

Cell phone cameras are far from being ergonomic or "best camera" to use.
They are pretty good and fit in your pocket. Most point & shoot dedicated digital cameras have superior lenses and much better ergonomics... but they end up being another thing to carry when you've got your smartphone, so they are Often left behind (or not purchased).

Smartphones win due to convenience, nice viewing screen and ease of sharing. Not necessarily because of best quality.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

It's an option. Don't like it? Don't use it. That option being there won't hurt you.

Not my point. My point is that it's a limited feature and can't compare to a real lens capable of shooting shallow depth of field.

Also to you point, I can't use what isn't avaialble. It's NOT an option for non-human subjects.

 

[Asianpork]

Is it me or so far most of the iphone 7+ pics released look like screen grabs from PC games running on high settings? These outdoors pics and especially the Vikings football game pics.

So saturated with such sharp contrasts.

 

[AndyDiamond]

Please actually provide the ORIGINAL sizes so we can actually see the photos objectively!

 

[jimbobb24]

Pictures are clearly oversaturated. I don't know how journalists can praise them and say this is the best mobile camera.

I am not an expert in photographs and have no special eye. I bought an alpha6000 to take pictures because I heard it auto adjusts fast enough that I might finally get one of my children smiling. So, when people say things like they are over saturated I really don't know what it means - the photos look great to me. Maybe not suitable for professional work but they look great. This problem goes both ways of course, the 6S also looks great and I lack the eye and experience to appreciate the negatives of the new camera or the supposed advantages. They all look good now from every manufacturer. Camera technology on a phone has matured to the point for 95% of people it is good enough for normal use (but I still use my sony when the shots count or when I need to zoom).

 

[wbrat]

Yes. My point exactly. iP7 camera is not a DSLR, silly for Apple to compare it to one.

As far as I remember Apple stressed at the keynote that iP7 is not to replace DSLRs.

 

[QCassidy352]

Better is always better, but camera improvements stopped being a big selling point for me generations ago. We've been taking impressive photos on iPhones for years now. I'm not using my phone camera to make money or do professional shoots, so improvements at the margins just really don't matter to me anymore. I guess if you're super into photography AND this is the camera you use for your serious hobby/profession then it's a big deal.

 

[I7guy]

I'll take my NEX-5T over this. Is is not that much larger than a iPhone 7S.

Since we're now carrying two different devices, I'll take my dslr and lenses. L glass is fairly rugged.

 

[TroyBoy30]

Well then I say the Galaxy Note 7 is a better camera than the iP7 because it has a 3.5mm audio pin. I'm not sure what that has to do with taking pictures, but if you seem to think a cell phone is a requirement even though there's nothing about it in the article, why not throw in all sorts of silly things.

You mean once you send your exploding one in and get a replacement, right? They actually asked if anyone had a note 7 on my flight yesterday so they could collect them and turn them off

 

[HEK]

Proprietary connectors??? In which case Apple and Sony have been courages for decades and decades......Such courageous companies... $$$$.

You want some head cheese for your head phone jack whine. Really getting old now. This thread not about your head phone jack whining.
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I'll take my NEX-5T over this. Is is not that much larger than a iPhone 7S.

So did you use your iPhone to take picture of your camera?

 

[speedlimiter]

It's still not clear to me if the 7 Plus gives improved quality over the 7 when using 1x (28mm lens) because of the dual-lens setup. Anyone?

"Every time you take a picture with the iPhone 7, both the wide angle and telephoto fire off. Yes, two 12 megapixel pictures for every shot. This could be a prime driver behind the increase of the iPhone 7 Plus’ memory to 3GB.

Both images are needed due to an Apple technique it is calling “fusion” internally. Fusion takes data from both sensors and merges them into the best possible picture for every condition. If, for instance, there is a low-light scene that has some dark areas, the image-processing chip could choose to pick up some image data (pixels or other stuff like luminance) from the brighter f1.8 wide angle and mix it in with the data from the f2.8 telephoto, creating a composite image on the fly without any input from the user. This fusion technique is available to every shot coming from the camera, which means that the iPhone 7 Plus is mixing and matching data every time that trigger is tapped.

This technique is made possible because the optics, coatings, sensors, perspectives and color balances of the two cameras are perfectly matched.

The fusion technique also comes in handy when using the new zoom functions of the iPhone 7 Plus."

from TechCrunch article

 

[ErikGrim]

Yes. My point exactly. iP7 camera is not a DSLR, silly for Apple to compare it to one.

They. Never. Did.

 

[HEK]

Comparing a SMARTPHONE to a standalone camera...

I think people forget than an iPhone is not just a camera. It does many, many other things. For a smartphone camera the 7 Plus photos look DAMN good.

For the majority of people the 7 Plus camera will be enough for them.

Actually if you consider that people are now comparing and critiquing the iPhone camera with stand alone cameras it shows just how good iPhone camera has gotten.

 

[ErikGrim]

Actually if you consider that people are now comparing and critiquing the iPhone camera with stand alone cameras it shows just how good iPhone camera has gotten.

Especially when they are projecting their own feelings upon Apple.

 

[LordVic]

I am not an expert in photographs and have no special eye. I bought an alpha6000 to take pictures because I heard it auto adjusts fast enough that I might finally get one of my children smiling. So, when people say things like they are over saturated I really don't know what it means - the photos look great to me. Maybe not suitable for professional work but they look great. This problem goes both ways of course, the 6S also looks great and I lack the eye and experience to appreciate the negatives of the new camera or the supposed advantages. They all look good now from every manufacturer. Camera technology on a phone has matured to the point for 95% of people it is good enough for normal use (but I still use my sony when the shots count or when I need to zoom).

Saturation typically refers to the colour reproduction and how accurate it is.

A photo that has very low saturation of colour would appear washed out, whiter, and more plain.

An oversaturated photo is the opposite, where the colours are dialed up, brighter, bolder, or just "MORE" of that colour

here's an example

So far, with the iPhone 7 shots that are being released, They're all really great photos. The most important thing is that they're well composed, so even if they're not 100% accurate, they look great to the eyes and are pleasing.

I do find houwever that most of the shots I'm seeing from the iphone 7 are heavily oversaturated, and don't look as good IMHO as the iPhone 6s. the new iPhone seems to have a hard time accurately showing blues and pinks in most of the photos posted, and especially with the ESPN shots, show a real hard time with dynamic ranges, where things in shadows are nearly black, while skies are blown out.

Its one of the best cameras in a smartphone no doubt. But it's not some run-away camera thats going to suddenly turn everyone into a pro photographer either. Those with skill will get great shots, those who just want a point an shoot will be happy.

 

[mi7chy]

It has burnt out highlights, an overcorrected whitev balance

Too bad they cropped the pictures to hide even worse blown outs that causes a growth to appear from her head in the dinner shot and mask the loss of detail comparison where you can make out the hands on the watch on the Note 7.

 

[Shakkan]

"Every time you take a picture with the iPhone 7, both the wide angle and telephoto fire off. Yes, two 12 megapixel pictures for every shot. This could be a prime driver behind the increase of the iPhone 7 Plus’ memory to 3GB.

Both images are needed due to an Apple technique it is calling “fusion” internally. Fusion takes data from both sensors and merges them into the best possible picture for every condition. If, for instance, there is a low-light scene that has some dark areas, the image-processing chip could choose to pick up some image data (pixels or other stuff like luminance) from the brighter f1.8 wide angle and mix it in with the data from the f2.8 telephoto, creating a composite image on the fly without any input from the user. This fusion technique is available to every shot coming from the camera, which means that the iPhone 7 Plus is mixing and matching data every time that trigger is tapped.

This technique is made possible because the optics, coatings, sensors, perspectives and color balances of the two cameras are perfectly matched.

The fusion technique also comes in handy when using the new zoom functions of the iPhone 7 Plus."

from TechCrunch article

Thank you, I should give the TechCrunch article a read. The other reviews made no mentions of that. Most bloggers would only cover the trivial things that everyone knows (no headphone jack omg, A10... duh.)

 

[OllyW]

Moderator Note:

Please keep the discussion on-topic, any further off-topic derailments will be deleted.

 

[eastcoastsurfer]

But it's not some run-away camera thats going to suddenly turn everyone into a pro photographer either.

No camera will turn anyone into a pro photographer. A real pro can take great photos with any equipment they have available.

Many in the camera industry are obsessed with equipment instead of actually taking great photos. The old quote is so true, an amateur photographer worries about equipment. A pro worries about money. A master worries about light.

 

[LordVic]

No camera will turn anyone into a pro photographer. A real pro can take great photos with any equipment they have available.

Many in the camera industry are obsessed with equipment instead of actually taking great photos. The old quote is so true, an amateur photographer worries about equipment. A pro worries about money. A master worries about light.

I've never heard that before, but it makes sense in a generic sense.

Iunno, I'm still rocking some old DSLR's that make amazing photos. I'm just a hobbyist and take one of them out when I'm feeling like it. My main stay is currently a Canon 40D, hardly a high end, or even modern camera. And my backup, and still 100% functional with great photo quality is the original Canon Rebel 300D. Between the standard kit lens, 50mm prime lense, a 300mm telephoto and a wide angle, I can't really imagine needing much more as a hobbyist. My photo quality isn't going to improve with a better camera. my problem is i'm still a crappy photographer

 

[v0lume4]

I'll take my NEX-5T over this. Is is not that much larger than a iPhone 7S.

Oooooh. One of the Sony Alphas. Drooool. I LOVE Sony's cameras! How is that one working for you?

 

[eastcoastsurfer]

I've never heard that before, but it makes sense in a generic sense.

Iunno, I'm still rocking some old DSLR's that make amazing photos. I'm just a hobbyist and take one of them out when I'm feeling like it. My main stay is currently a Canon 40D, hardly a high end, or even modern camera. And my backup, and still 100% functional with great photo quality is the original Canon Rebel 300D. Between the standard kit lens, 50mm prime lense, a 300mm telephoto and a wide angle, I can't really imagine needing much more as a hobbyist. My photo quality isn't going to improve with a better camera. my problem is i'm still a crappy photographer

Obviously at the extremes, different equipment is helpful. This moonshot would be hard to take without my 300mm and a tripod: https://flic.kr/p/tHpySG or this shot of a dragon fly, https://flic.kr/p/ujyN8E

But then, here is a night pic I took with an iPhone 6 https://flic.kr/p/rsYFpx

In the general sense, most amateurs end up worried about equipment that will not end up helping them take better pictures. All they do is spend a bunch of money and keep wondering/complaining about their shots not getting any better. My pictures are still just average, but I've taken thousands to figure out how to take better pictures. And yeah, except for special cases, I usually just have my 35mm prime on my d7100 and 'zoom with my feet'.

 

[greytmom]

Well, I know it's against the rules to not be negative and cynical about everything, but I think the photos are beautiful. Particularly love the one looking up into the tree.

 

[v0lume4]

Apple will release the retracted "Pro" model in 6 months time, featuring a quad-lens 20 MP camera. It will be $1500 for the 32 GB model and $2000 for the 512 GB model. The current dual-lens camera on the boring "7 plus" normal model will be moved to the front of the "Pro" model as a selfie-taker and narcissist's mechanism of ultimate self-fulfillment.

Also, Live Photos will be updated to fully emulate the live portraits "fictionalized" by J.K. Rowling in Harry Potter. Each picture taken will capture the artificial ghost intelligence(s) of every AI-recognized face and fully render the dead soul(s) of individual(s) captured within the picture and uploaded into the iCloud until the Universe eventually implodes. Technology will officially match that of the wizarding world, and we can finally take down Voldermort the proper way, because there will be an app for that.

This. Is. The. Best. Post. I've read. All week.
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Well, I know it's against the rules to not be negative and cynical about everything, but I think the photos are beautiful. Particularly love the one looking up into the tree.

Hey. Hey. Hey. Mr Positivity. That isn't allowed here. Get out.

Totally kidding.

 

[Girder_Shade]

I'd say none of those pictures are impressive especially taken outdoors.
I took these photos below on my Nexus 6P during the weekend. With the right lighting conditions and some photography knowledge I was able to capture some good looking pictures.

Cottage https://imgur.com/gallery/dVK9E