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Good then, that the iPhone 7+ is one of the cheapest smartphones on the market.
iPhone 7 Plus Low-Light Photo Capabilities Shown Off at U.S. Open
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The Game 161
macrumors Nehalem
Looks terrific
Speedy Dingo
macrumors regular
The Verge reviewed the iPhone 7 and they had some low-light photo samples in the video.
brandonbabz
macrumors newbie
One of my favorites from the selection. All of those expensive DSLRs and an iPhone 7+ hiding behind them all.
agreed, awesome shot!
rGiskard
macrumors 68000
You definitely didn't get my point. The OIS is on the wrong lens! f/1.8 is already fast, but f/2.8 is in dire need of OIS if it will be of any use in low light. Pretty basic stuff here.
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Nice to finally have actual data. f/1.8 w/OIS rocks in low light, even better than I expected! It's been a long time since an iPhone camera update surprised me - well done, Apple!
thettareddast
macrumors 6502
Human intelligence and logic allows most of our species to make comparative judgement using various cues in imperfect scenarios.
One needs not see Russell Wilson and Sam Bradford play against the exact same team, in the same weather condition, in the same sequence, with the same playbook, with the same playmakers, in order to pass reasonably judgement on their relative talents as QBs.
mi7chy
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That big bulb doesn't make it low light. That's more of an exposure and white balance test. Not as bad as the 6S+ but 7+ still loses detail (compared to Note 7 that shows watch hands), has the smeared oil painting effect and blown out with white spot on his head and bulge on hers so not as good as the Note 7.
Anyone else also notice the screen scratches at 3:19 in the video?
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No the poster above said iPhone 7 has tiny sensors and crap optics comparing it to camera. That smartphone cameras can never replace a real camera.
If Apple put in better sensors and better optics the iPhone will probably cost $5,000 or more.
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I think one of the other posted said iPhone 5 and above can take still picture at 3888 x 2592 or close to 3888 x 2592. Being 4K.
Where the iPhone 4 and blow was much lower.
bronksy
macrumors 6502a
What a bizarre statement. Why would we not assume that the dslr would have changed in 2056?Why on Earth should we stop comparing them to DSLR's? This is exactly the attitude that hinders technological advancement. Cell phone cameras have come a long way since their debut. It is clearly only a matter of TIME until they can produce the quality of today's DSLR's. Don't ask me how and don't tell me it cannot be done because of the way how physics works. Sure it cannot be done within the current technological framework but it is only a matter of TIME.
We see this attitude over and over again in history. "Stop comparing X to Y, they are not even in the same league".
And history always proves that before you know it, X takes the upper hand over Y.
Phone cameras WILL not only equal but even OUTMATCH today's (!) DSLR's in the not too distant future. You should start getting comfortable with the thought.
Holding a gadget as large as a DSLR in, say, the year of 2056 in your hands with the sole purpose of recording what is in front of your eyes, will be just as ridiculous (even for the professional) as it is today to listen to music with one of these things:
However you look at the marketing or pontificate over the future of photography there will still (presumably) be the laws of physics and the laws of light. Until we can change them, it's always going to be that a bigger lens with better glass and optical formulas will beat the small lenses and modules and sensors that are in cellphones.
Change the laws of physics and we'll chat.
ErikGrim
macrumors 604
As much I wish that were true, you can't change the laws of physics.
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Why is the Note 7 photo focused on a completely different part of the scene? It doesn't even have the direct light in frame?
Guys, first: I deliberately emphasized that phone cameras will beat today's DSLR's.
Second, always this "the laws of physics" reason... my dear friends, don't you see that if this was our attitude toward all things, we would still be living in caves? Of course I didn't want to imply that a small lens will be better than a large lens. I implied, however, that on the one hand: with the technological advancement ahead us, it might well be that we reach a point where even a cell phone can produce sufficient quality for professional use. Why is is this so hard to imagine? We see this everywhere. Feats that once required enermously large and expensive hardware are now available to everyone and we accept that as normal. (Think about, say, the calculator. Of course there are even faster and more complex calculators today than what you can find in your phone's OS. But who even buys them for the sole purpose of adding numbers? I know the analogy is án exaggeration but you get my point.)
On the other hand, who said scientist can't come up with a recording procedure in the next decade which is not , or not entirelly based on the good old "capture light with lens" way, and that which will render the concept of traditional cameras instantly obsolete?
Please, open your minds a little bit. I know it's hard and it requires you to be a little bit foolish sometimes, but it is worth it.
ErikGrim
macrumors 604
Please try to have a basic understanding of physics. I know it's hard, but it is worth it.
Radon87000
macrumors 604
Who will pay thousands over a 600 buck phone for 5% extra features?People are crazy
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I7guy
macrumors Westmere
I know people who pay tens of thousands of dollars for a pro-shoot for various events.
Radon87000
macrumors 604
Only for $700 hardware to achieve 95% of the quality in a similar scenario.Lets face it,DSLRs are cost budgeting gone bad.I imagine in 2 years,smartphone manufacturers will kick DSLRs to the curb at less than a 4th of the cost
I7guy
macrumors Westmere
You can certainly imagine it and say it will happen on an anonymous forum, but the reality is, it won't happen. As cell phone cameras advance, dslr sensor technology will advance, lens technology will advance etc. You're not going to see a Prius towing a 18-wheeler size load down the highway, but you can certainly imagine it can happen.
Radon87000
macrumors 604
They said the same thing about Microsoft Surface.Its trying to do too much they said.Its a convergence of the toaster and refrigerator they said.And fast forward years later 2 in 1s are flagship devices
You should also take a look at Lumia 1020.WOuldnt surprise me if Apple manage to fit that quality into smaller sensors in a few years
http://www.winbeta.org/news/nokia-tells-you-why-lumia-1020-better-dslr
I7guy
macrumors Westmere
That article is just some hyperbole and marketing BS. Surface isn't about physics. Cameras, sensors and lens are.
thettareddast
macrumors 6502
falainber
macrumors 68040
Well, it looks like iPhone 7 camera has better low light performance than its predecessor but still not as good as its Samsung counterpart, at least according to these tests:
Sorry, Apple: The iPhone 7 camera is not better than Samsung's Galaxy S7
iPhone 7 vs Samsung Galaxy S7 Camera Test Comparison
Samsung phones also have much better focusing capabilities.
Sorry, Apple: The iPhone 7 camera is not better than Samsung's Galaxy S7
iPhone 7 vs Samsung Galaxy S7 Camera Test Comparison
Samsung phones also have much better focusing capabilities.
I don't think anyone here was thinking the iPhone 7 was going to be better than the Samsung phone or just as good. May be next year when Apple brings out the iPhone 8 it will be better than the Samsung phone.
But by that time the Samsung phone could have better camera.