Again, please stop using meaningless terms in relation to photography. The iPhone has taken the equivalent of 4K pictures since the iPhone 4S. The 7/7+ will take 12MP photos.
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then there is this from lagwagon:
The only way to compare the 5s, 6 and 6s camera to the 7 and 7+ is to take photos of the same subject and the same time and do a side by side.
none of these tests and comparisons mean anything...noone's opinions mean anything according to him.....you can not say one is better then the other until his testing is done with brand new phones
yeah because until that is done then no one is allowed to say one is better then the other according to lagwagon.....he says that is FACT
So you are saying still picture of 3888 x 2592 is like 4K?
You saying iPhone 5 and iPhone 6 had camera of 3888 x 2592 ? The iPhone display was not 3888 x 2592.
So what is point of iPhone 5 and iPhone 6 taking still picture of 3888 x 2592 when the phone display was not 3888 x 2592.
What does the display have to do with anything? The display and camera resolution have nothing to do with each other. Your phone screen is not the only output device for your photos.
So you are going out in public to take lots of pictures and cannot view that high resolution with out running home to hook it up to computer?
Wow nice feature Apple.
Or go on vacation or weekend to friends house and cannot view that high resolution with out taking computer with you?
OK, we are done here. I'll just refer you to my signature from here on.
4K comes in at 3840 × 2160 resolution. Ultra HD (true 4K) comes in at 4096 × 2160
iPhone 4s, 5, 5c, 5s, 6 take photos at 3264 x 2448
iPhone 6s takes photos at 4000 x 3000
Image size has no correlation to screen size. It's the amount of pixels the sensor captures. More pixels means larger prints, more detail, allows to crop in and retain detail better.
It would be great to know which shots would've been also possible on the 7 and see a comparison (e.g. is the 7 Plus *always* using the 56mm lens in tandem with the 28mm one to enhance sharpness among other things)?
To be honest, that's something I'm wondering and making me hesitate between the 7 and 7 Plus. Is the tandem capture only being done for the bukkake effect or also for enhanced quality when shooting with the 28mm?
To be honest, that's something I'm wondering and making me hesitate between the 7 and 7 Plus. Is the tandem capture only being done for the bukkake effect or also for enhanced quality when shooting with the 28mm?
The Bokeh effect uses the 56mm lens to actually capture the image but it uses the 28mm lens with the 56mm lens to do all the depth mapping and determine what to keep sharp and what to blur.
True a really small screen will make 664 × 498 look lot better than really big screen displaying it.
That why small laptop or small smarphone display will make 664 × 498 better than really big 60'' plasma TV.
If you want take still picture and blow up on really big plasma TV you or computer monitor you will need take still picture in really high resolution.
Yes I got that thanks but for normal shots, are both lens still being used in tandem to enhance overall quality? I thought LinX was about that actually. If so, that puts the 7 Plus well ahead in terms of camera. If it's only for 2x zoom and bukkake effect, then it's less of a big deal for a lot of people.
All this bokeh talk on a smartphone camera is just stupid. Depth of field has everything to do with optics/physics. And the principles of sensor size, aperture in relation to the focal length and subject distance.
With tiny sensors and crap optics on a smartphone you're not going to get shallow depth of field comparable to any dSLR camera. What Phil likes to brag about is trickery and marketing gimmicks to trick you non-photographers. If you don't know how shallow depth of field works you deserve to use your smartphone camera. Leave quality bokeh shots to larger sensor camera hardware and optics that can produce it.
Just because you have two lenses and some software trickery doesn't mean you will get quality bokeh either. the larger the sensor the easier you will obtain shallow depth of field. The iPhone is a toy camera for Instagram and Facebook degenerates. This applies to Samsung S7 cameras as well.
With tiny sensors and crap optics on a smartphone you're not going to get shallow depth of field comparable to any dSLR camera. What Phil likes to brag about is trickery and marketing gimmicks to trick you non-photographers. If you don't know how shallow depth of field works you deserve to use your smartphone camera. Leave quality bokeh shots to larger sensor camera hardware and optics that can produce it.
Just because you have two lenses and some software trickery doesn't mean you will get quality bokeh either. the larger the sensor the easier you will obtain shallow depth of field. The iPhone is a toy camera for Instagram and Facebook degenerates. This applies to Samsung S7 cameras as well.
Lol, so now this thread is the benchmark of the iPhone 7? 20 random posters staring their opinion against who know what and that's it Apple should close its doors? I think not.
Since there is no documentation on if both lenses and sensors are used 100% of the time, those kind of discoveries can't happen until it's in the hands of people. I would imagine the 56mm is only used for x2 and "Portrait Mode" (which by the way is bokeh and hopefully not bukkake as you've mentioned. That would be messy.)
x2 is a bigger deal than some are giving it. Having a true optical x2 makes quite a difference and an advantage over every other smartphone camera out there.
still better then what you do.....just attack everyone without saying what your stance is.....that is cowardly
oh yeah? where is your proof? have you done a side by side comparison done at exactly the same place and time against every other smartphone camera out there? obviously you have not done that so your point is moot
remember this is YOUR response to someone else's comparison.....you told them that there statement wasn't valid unless all your PROPER testing was done....and that this was fact according to you
I, too, want to see lagwagon's testing. Where are these tests, lagwagon? If you can't provide test results that you demand of other people then that's incredibly hypocritical.
Have you heard of the L16 camera? That takes computational photography to a whole new level. I can imagine in the future having an iPhone + L16 and being good.
Regardless of it being fake bokeh is irrelevant and is still a huge advancement for smartphone cameras.
You're right nothing can replace having proper true bokeh done by the optics, but it is a step towards at least having the same feel and makes a big difference to smartphone photos.
Sensor size doesn't necessarily have to get bigger on an iPhone to get the same result, it's all relative. Aperture is affected by crop factor (exactly how focal length is.) I haven't done the exact math on it because I don't know the crop factor of an iPhone sensor in relation to a 35mm sensor, but the iPhone camera would need a lens with an f/stop of around the f/0.2 ballpark to equal something around the f/1.8 ballpark on a 35mm.
Calling the iPhone or any smartphone camera lens having a 1.8 aperture is false. Because 1.8 is in reference to a full frame 35mm sensor and it's not accounting for the crop factor. Again because I haven't yet looked up the crop factor of a smartphone sensor in relation to a 35mm, the so called f/1.8 is in reality somewhere around the f/8 a f/13 ballpark.
So since we won't be seeing any f/0.2 lenses or smartphones getting anything close to an APS-C or Full Frame anytime soon, resorting to software is all we can get for the time being.
Not sure why you're getting so upset that the iPhone can fake doing more bokeh vs real bokeh on your DSLR. Does it in someway make your DSLR worse? Are you worried someone will take a better photo on their smartphone than you on a DSLR? None of it effects you in the slightest.