Sidebar Sidebar
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

iPhone 7 Plus Low-Light Photo Capabilities Shown Off at U.S. Open

I7guy said:
The point is if it is that easy, you should be able to prove this point to the forum instead of posting a statement that you can't prove that's an opinion based on...nothing.
Click to expand...

I don't know why you're taking such an issue with his comment, he isn't lying. These are lower light, but are not LOW light. His example may be a little extreme but it still points out a valid point. I have a 7+ on order, the camera will be very nice, but let's not fool ourselves into thinking these are going to be magic.

However, I'll take any improvements I can get in the device that is always with me.
 
  • Like
Reactions: jase1125, 5105973 and fatalogic
snarton said:
In addition to better low light performance, it looks like the dynamic range is getting better too. I wonder if Apple is taking photos with both sensors simultaneously and combining them to achieve this?
Click to expand...
That option is made more complicated by the two cameras having different focal lengths. If one is shooting a wide-angle image, the second camera could only improve the DR in the central part of the frame. While this can be useful, getting the transition right between the areas with better and standard DR could be tricky. And the other way around, when taking a tele image, the resolution of the second camera is lower by a factor of two (linearly) which again makes mixing the data to improve the DR more complex (though not undoable).

In future, having even more cameras might become possible, eg, two cameras for each focal length (maybe up to three different focal lengths), with one being B&W, or even more yet. One problem is that unless you allow an even larger camera bump, the space for the cameras is only there above the display (and even then there is the front-facing camera, the speaker and proximity sensor fighting for that space).
 
I hope the 7 can also do this. I downgraded because I can't handle the 5.5 incher anymore even though I have long fingers, It's just not comfortable for me using one-hand.
 
Been thinking about it and am not overwhelmed by the benefit of two camera's on the 7+ being worth the extra size. You don't have to walk so close for a somewhat closeup, but that is really not a huge thing - just take a couple of steps. The Bokeh effect will be cool when they finish that, but those are pretty mild things for the addition of another camera and the hugeness of the 7+.

Waiting till a true unlocked (non provider aligned) version of the 7 comes out prior to purchase (October for the 6s) so I still have some time to wrestle with this. I really utilize the camera on my iPhone and was assuming I'd go with the 7+ monster...but reflecting it really doesn't do that much more than the updated 7's camera. The promise of bokeh shots will probably get me in the end though. JMHO....
 
The very last photo of the streamers on the floor reveals that noise reduction is very very aggressive. I'd prefer some noise vs smears like that. We're not going to get much more than a stop of performance if that and the noise looks worse that ever. The images all have a weird high contrast look to them with strange skin colours. My iPhone 6 has the same issues. I still prefer my canon 5dmkii you just can't get anything near the quality from a small sensor. There has been no real improvement in camera performance over the last 5 years. Maybe more dynamic range and better post processing but overall things have gotten worse the more pixels that have been added.
 
How can you have DSLR like quality without support for raw image files?

Not doubting that it can probably take DSLR quality images, but it seems a bit pointless when the image is compressed into a JPEG and viewed on a 750p screen.
 
I know it's normal here for people to pick apart each new iPhone and it's camera. But sometimes I think people get a bit whiney and anal. It's a smartphone. These photos look good to me. But then I'm still using my iPod Touch to take pics with. Looking forward to upgrading to my first iphone. And it looks like the iphone 7 will serve me well documenting my adventures around the world. Will definitely use it as my main travel camera for sure.
 
  • Like
Reactions: dkamisato, CB1234, mrhick01 and 2 others
Typical indoor incandescent light would be significantly lower light than these "low light" shots.
 
  • Like
Reactions: g75d3
alexgowers said:
I still prefer my canon 5dmkii you just can't get anything near the quality from a small sensor. There has been no real improvement in camera performance over the last 5 years. Maybe more dynamic range and better post processing but overall things have gotten worse the more pixels that have been added.
Click to expand...

Oh, you prefer your full frame, nearly top-of-the-line DSLR with a 21MP sensor to a smartphone camera? Shocking!
 
  • Like
Reactions: NetMage and Velli
These are edited right? I want to see how they compare to just point and click, no editing, what most people do with their phone camera.
 
Billions of dollars worth pictures make people courageous and make a purchase! Do not take it lightly!
 
Mudcat62 said:
The IPhone 7 does support raw, dang.
[doublepost=1473690524][/doublepost]
Dng
Click to expand...

Fair dinkum, I didn't know that. Good on Apple to do that. Undoubtedly they'll make getting at the DNG file more user friendly than android.
 
MacDarcy said:
I know it's normal here for people to pick apart each new iPhone and it's camera. But sometimes I think people get a bit whiney and anal. It's a smartphone. These photos look good to me. But then I'm still using my iPod Touch to take pics with. Looking forward to upgrading to my first iphone. And it looks like the iphone 7 will serve me well documenting my adventures around the world. Will definitely use it as my main travel camera for sure.
Click to expand...
Me too with ipod touch. I find outside shots are best. But if you zoom in on fine details things get blurry. I'd like to know what happens with these iphone pics when you zoom in.
 
keysofanxiety said:
When you compare a camera in a phone to a professional DSLR, it's more to demonstrate how far the technology has come along. And you can't deny that the quality is getting better and better per generation.

Not for one minute are Apple or Phil suggesting that a phone could ever be a replacement for a DSLR; not now, and not in the next decade. That was one of the things explicitly stated in the keynote.

However the quality of some photographs against DSLRs really highlights just how impressive the camera is.
Click to expand...
This.

I think of all the things I could criticize Apple for, they made very clear that the new iPhone cannot replace, but rather is supposed to supplement a DSLR for anyone who wants that (new iPhone's) level of quality and they have a fair point.

Glassed Silver:mac
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: dkamisato
justiny said:
I'm all for Tim getting excited and spotlighting these photos (along with the NFL pics).

But Apple needs to quit comparing cell phone cameras to DSLR's. There is no comparison.
Click to expand...

Didn't they specifically say in the keynote that it would never replace a DSLR? It was refreshingly honest if I heard it right. I'd love it to replace my mid-size 1inch sensor compact (Canon G5X)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.
Top Bottom
Back