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They all look like overlaid double images slightly offset and out of focus. I'd rather buy a real camera for the same money. Oh! I am comparing them to pictures taken using a real camera. I also worked for many years as a photojournalist and a medical photographer - know what 'focused' looks like.
 
These aren't bad. The pictures Tim posted from the Vikings-Titans game weren't bad either.

Either way, these pictures aren't going to sway me to get the 7Plus. While photography is a hobby of mine, I'll still continue to shoot with my DSLR and medium format film camera.
 
Can you set the camera to under expose by 2/3rd of a stop in order to reduce white burn out?

As for the US Open Pictures...
Can you control the depth of field while looking at the shot?
With a DSLR I can control the Shutter Speed and Aperture as I compose the shot. Great shots don't wait for the photographer.

The cameras on phones are certainly improving and have lots of uses but to replace all those DSLR's? Not a chance.
The picture to the right was taken with a 28-300mm lens set at 200mm about 30 mins after sunrise in the Badlands, Nebraska.
I don't think that could have been taken even with the latest camerphone.

Yes, you can adjust exposure while composing.

Did anybody make a claim that the iPhone 7 can replace dSLRs?

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OTOH, I've used my phones for various photography projects over the years. Sometimes I either don't have with me or don't want to use my so-called "real cameras."
 
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I don't know why you're taking such an issue with his comment, he isn't lying. These are lower light, but are not LOW light. His example may be a little extreme but it still points out a valid point. I have a 7+ on order, the camera will be very nice, but let's not fool ourselves into thinking these are going to be magic.

However, I'll take any improvements I can get in the device that is always with me.
Well should be easy to prove such a statement instead of a hit and run.
 
Hmm these photos are not great, the silhouette on the steps should have been fixed by HDR but it looks to not have worked at all except for on the railing.
 
None of these photos are in "low light condition". High contrast + good dynamic (+ presumably HDR) in order to slightly bring out shadows, OK, but not low light. I'd like to see how the sensor and phone behaves in low light with low contrast, thus maxing out ISO.

I'm not up to date in iphone / iOS technology : can iphone shoot raw ? if so, what the bitdepth of the raw info ? can an app like snapseed (if google ported it to iOS) do wonders?

Exactly. The tennis court has plenty of light. Where's a true low light shot?
 
These are amazing photos. There is an incredible dynamic range and in most photos, not much is blown out white or black. I suspect this is from the iPhone having some type of automatic post processing curve adjustment feature.

I wonder how much of this improvement will be available on older iPhones with the new iOS.
 
None of these photos are in "low light condition". High contrast + good dynamic (+ presumably HDR) in order to slightly bring out shadows, OK, but not low light. I'd like to see how the sensor and phone behaves in low light with low contrast, thus maxing out ISO.

I'm not up to date in iphone / iOS technology : can iphone shoot raw ? if so, what the bitdepth of the raw info ? can an app like snapseed (if google ported it to iOS) do wonders?

IOS10 supports raw from iPhone 6 onwards - in terms of bit depth I found this from WWDC in relation to the new API's Apple is making available to developers.

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Can you set the camera to under expose by 2/3rd of a stop in order to reduce white burn out?

As for the US Open Pictures...
Can you control the depth of field while looking at the shot?
With a DSLR I can control the Shutter Speed and Aperture as I compose the shot. Great shots don't wait for the photographer.

The cameras on phones are certainly improving and have lots of uses but to replace all those DSLR's? Not a chance.
The picture to the right was taken with a 28-300mm lens set at 200mm about 30 mins after sunrise in the Badlands, Nebraska.
I don't think that could have been taken even with the latest camerphone.

Of course a DSLR can do more than a $40 camera sensor module in a smartphone!

The valid comparison is between smartphones. We have little data on that but so far I'm very impressed by the iP7 color processing, and I'm perplexed by the decision to use OIS on the 28mm f/1.8 1/3" module instead of the 56mm f/2.8 1/3.6" module. OIS can get you 2/3 of a stop easy, so it would be killer on the f/2.8 module.

BTW Samsung use a 1/2.5" sensor on the Galaxy S7 because they don't have to deal with a thin fetish.

Oh, one more thing...
I know a good photographer and an iPhone in his hands will beat a DSLR in my hands every time. Sure, he'll shoot even better photos with a DSLR, but it's easy to lose sight of the big picture when we start pawing through the tech specs of these smartphones.
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Hmm these photos are not great, the silhouette on the steps should have been fixed by HDR but it looks to not have worked at all except for on the railing.

Ermm...the silhouette was the intended effect. Looks great to my eyes..for a smartphone. Better than most amateurs could do with $3K DSLR rigs.
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These are amazing photos. There is an incredible dynamic range and in most photos, not much is blown out white or black. I suspect this is from the iPhone having some type of automatic post processing curve adjustment feature.

I wonder how much of this improvement will be available on older iPhones with the new iOS.

Are we looking at the same photos?

I'm on a calibrated display btw. Some are saying they are great on an iDevice display but crap on a computer display...
 
I was planning on going to The Open but decided to watch it on TV when my friend told me she had a change of heart! We are no longer friends but this contribute to it. I am planning to look at the iPhone 7 on the 16th.
 
Honestly, if you give two ***** about any of the nitpicking people are going on and on and on about here, and the difference between this and a Galaxy, you shouldn't be using your phone to take pictures anyway. We've come to a point where the iPhone is "good enough" to be a great point and shoot. If you need more than that, you need DSLR, and that won't change next year, the year after that, or any other year. IF a smartphone ever gets as good as a Canon D5 (which I don't believe they ever will, because physics), the equivalent DSLR will have equally evolved to something even better. Just be happy that you got a great point and shoot with your phone, and be happy with it. This is getting ridiculous.
 
colors look artificial. as though there was some processing done. dare i say the colors remind me of an oversaturated Samsung display
 
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I was planning on going to The Open but decided to watch it on TV when my friend told me she had a change of heart! We are no longer friends but this contribute to it. I am planning to look at the iPhone 7 on the 16th.
I like your story. When someone ceases to share your tennis-watching preferences, they should be permanently eliminated as friend. Hopefully these photos taken on an iPhone 7 of The Open will console you in this time of need.
 
They are definitely pushing the physics of chips and lenses with these cameras.

As a fan of photography there are new wants deficiencies in these images and the sports images they posted the other day but are still stunning for a smart phone.

Especially the image of the court in bright light on the ground in low light is exceptionally hard to do with a smart phone
 
Honestly, if you give two ***** about any of the nitpicking people are going on and on and on about here, and the difference between this and a Galaxy, you shouldn't be using your phone to take pictures anyway. We've come to a point where the iPhone is "good enough" to be a great point and shoot. If you need more than that, you need DSLR, and that won't change next year, the year after that, or any other year. IF a smartphone ever gets as good as a Canon D5 (which I don't believe they ever will, because physics), the equivalent DSLR will have equally evolved to something even better. Just be happy that you got a great point and shoot with your phone, and be happy with it. This is getting ridiculous.

When you buy lenses for your D5, would you rather have OIS on your f/1.8 lens or your f/2.8 lenses?
 
I'm all for Tim getting excited and spotlighting these photos (along with the NFL pics).

But Apple needs to quit comparing cell phone cameras to DSLR's. There is no comparison.

I understand the differences between DSLR and smartphone so no need to go into that. However, what is important to most people is what is the best camera that you can afford to buy and have with you when you need it.

For many people they just can't justify the cost of a DSLR even with a kit lens, never mind one with a few different lenses. For those who can justify this cost, even they might not have it with them when a photo-opportunity presents itself. I have my iPhone 6 (about to be 7+) and a Panasonic 18x super zoom because although I would love a better camera I just can't justify £1000-£2000 for a DSLR or more likely for me a mirrorless equivalent. With high resolution digital viewfinders there is really no reason for a mirror any more so I believe that aspect of DSLRs will largely disappear in the next 3-5 years. At that point I don't think it can really be called a DSLR any more.

You can't dispute that the majority of photos taken today are taken by amateurs with smartphones so the iterative improvements that Apple are bringing (along with other vendors) will help preserve the quality of our photographs for the future. When I look at some of my early photos of my kids I really wish we had this technology 20 years ago! :)

When DSLRs came out, SLR users scoffed at them and yet SLR has been replaced by DSLR in almost every situation. The same will (in my view) happen to DSLRs but it will be mirrorless cameras which will replace them not smartphones, again in "almost" every situation. Smartphones have already replaced the point and shoot and will erode the market of the low to mid range mirrorless camera but the mid to high end mirrorless market will be safe for some time to come at least.
 
How is 56 mm telephoto? When I think of telephoto I think of at least 70-90 mm.

There are no absolute definitions.

I photograph people on the street (both candid and posed portraiture) and like environmental context. The ideal focal length for me is 35mm, giving enough environmental context without exaggerating features from shooting people too close.

I couldn't make the photos I usually make with a 56mm lens, and thus for my photography, would consider it a telephoto.

A lot of photographers consider a 50mm lens a "normal lens." Labels are rarely useful in many situations. It's like the term "portrait lens." There's a wide range of focal lengths that could fit that term, depending on the kind of portraiture you shoot.

There are occasions where having a 56mm option would be handy when I'm out shooting with my phone, though. Having that option on my phone would be great, though I'd use the wide angle lens more often.
 
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Firstly, as some people already pointed out, none of these pictures are low light pictures. Also, these pictures as well as the ones in the other thread look good primarily because they were taken by a professional photographer (timing, composition, colors etc.). That said, obviously iPhone camera makes steady progress. The lens might be better (it would be impossible to say for sure by looking at these particular low res samples). Sony sensors have been making good progress with dynamic range in recent years. I am sure Apple is improving image processing as well. So yeas, we should expect a little bit better pictures from iPhone 7. On the other hand, smart phone cameras (iPhone is not an exception) remain limited for obvious reasons in many critical areas:
  • optics (focal length, zoom, depth of field, fixed aperture)
  • small pixel size (limiting dynamic range)
  • small sensor size
  • slow focusing (compared to DSLRs), poor focus tracking
Most posts in this thread do not really contradict each other, they just emphasize different aspects of the camera.
 
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