I hear ya but I paid full price.
Regardless of full price or a finance plan you're still paying.
7plus matte black still seem tough to come by. Mine works well enough.
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iPhone 7 Plus Qualcomm LTE Modem Outperforms Intel LTE Modem by Significant Margin
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I hear ya but I paid full price.
Regardless of full price or a finance plan you're still paying.
7plus matte black still seem tough to come by. Mine works well enough.
FYI: the European unlocked models are also A17xx, that is, Intel-based (including my 7+ 256GB purchased in Finland).
The performance difference between the A9s was less than 2% IIRC. There is that much variability between Intel chips as a result of binning.
As for the NAND, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a similar difference last year between the 16 and 64 GB models.
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Remember when people complained about the 16nm TSMC vs 14nm Samsung A9 and then it turned out the TSMC was slightly faster?
Well even though mine has the worse memory and worse modem, the matte black seems to be very durable, even more so than my space gray 6s plus. I dropped my matte
black 7 plus 3 feet onto parking lot pavement last night, and I shrieked in horror, lol. I picked it up and there was not a single scratch on the thing, the matte finish kind of skids across surfaces without damage. I am very impressed and will keep a matte black, even if I still would like a Verizon 256gb instead of a T-Mobile 32gb, lol.
I've noticed the weaker modems in the 6s myself compared to my s7 edge granted 6s isn't what this article is about but the iPhone has always at least from my experience had worse coverage than my Samsung devices or really any high end android device. Idk how people don't notice it in the real world I did instantly, comparing signal speeds and how many bars are there the iPhone was always 2 less and about 10mbps slower than my s7 edge or even s6 edge. Nice to the see they went Qualcomm on some of them. They should of just went Qualcomm for all input
If you paid full price in the US and got an Intel unit and are happy with it because you just cannot see why you might need a unit that has GSM and CDMA, then I'd say you're a happy customer.
I wasn't interested in the black phones. They're pretty to look at, but once Apple started making white phones, I realized that they always look like the fronts are cleaner than the black and space gray phones. I haven't owned a phone that didn't have a white front since the iPhone 4 came out in white.
If you paid full price in the US and got an Intel unit and are happy with it because you just cannot see why you might need a unit that has GSM and CDMA, then I'd say you're a happy customer.
I wasn't interested in the black phones. They're pretty to look at, but once Apple started making white phones, I realized that they always look like the fronts are cleaner than the black and space gray phones. I haven't owned a phone that didn't have a white front since the iPhone 4 came out in white.
I don't plan to use big red or sprint so I'll be ok. Only other carrier I'll go to is t mobile and that's when and if att stops honoring grandfathered "unlimited" plans
I got a gold SE too
Actually, I rarely see people panic here. I noticed that my 7 plus was slower than my 6s plus had been shortly after launch, but I have been really busy with work and grad school and I thought it was my imagination until last weekend when I noticed my husband's far greater signal strength on his 6s compared to my 7 plus and I started reading up on the differences.
I really am not that worried about speed, per se, but I am concerned about network compatibility a little bit because I'm not really wanting to repurchase one of these if we wind up switching to Verizon sometime this year.
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I don't plan to use big red or sprint so I'll be ok. Only other carrier I'll go to is t mobile and that's when and if att stops honoring grandfathered "unlimited" plans
I got a gold SE too
My only gold was my 6 plus. My kid has a rose gold SE, come to think of it.
Yes, I doubt I'll switch to Verizon. I have been with AT&T since it was Cingular. But, I still like having options. Which is why I always buy off contract.
Also to note apple was trying to get Samsung off of their production line they didn't want do business with them anymore and if I remember correctly last year tsmc couldn't meet full demand just yet to produce all cpu's for the 6. I could be wrong on that part, sadly if apple ever wants to make an actual gorgeous display they will have to go with Samsung and go for the Super amoled. Imo iPhones screens lag so far behind competition, I didn't think I'd notice it so much until I switched to one and wow its night and day to me. I'd love to see them go with super amoled on their next iPhone.
So Apple saves and some iPhones owners end up losing. Like I said before, Apple needs to make sure performance is really close if not identical. I'm sure Apple was well aware of it, but they think their "Apple immunity" will be enough.
I'm not saying qual
I'm not saying Qualcomm could meet the supply but I do have a feeling they very well could, Apple more than likely did this to save only Intel probably gave them a good deal and saying they wouldn't go to them for a better price is straight up idiotic sir. Of course they would apple is all about saving money manufacturing and they've been in business with Intel for years. So I'd more than likely guess they didn't go with this for supply reasons considering the iPhone 7 won't sell as well as the iPhone 6s I'd greatly assume they went with Intel to save cash. Why do you think they got rid of the headphone jack Because they didn't want to pay the licensing fee for it, they make money on anyone wanting to make headphones for it now and it's way less costly to manufacture, since they do not have to waterproof it as well. They got rid of that to save money, not because wireless is the future it's all about the bottom line, and then selling that bottom line to anyone stupid enough to fall for it Ala I sheep. I love my MacBook pro but Apple is a greedy ass company and they always have been
If only they made a jet black 32, I could get a hissing scratch magnet, slow storage and slow modem.... and bad screen would be a bonus.
So disappointed in Apple robbing me of this opportunity by not providing a 32Gb lemon in jet black. Tim has to go!!!
I have the Intel modem but I guess I'm lucky enough to be living in Singapore where 4G signals are always strong at about -80-90dB. This is the kind of speed I get all the time:
This is obviously a major issue I struggle with..... Where I live I barely get one bar of 3G so without wifi whether I download 0.3 Mbps or 0.32 could be a major game changer in my life.....
I have an A1784 7+ 128g. I noticed a change in the Modem Firmware with 10.0.3 from 1.003 to 1.005. I was having no signal issues to begin with, however, using the same chair in my living room, there was a significant increase in my LTE download speeds with 1.005. Did have a similar experience on 10.0.3?
This is most likely the cause. Qualcomm has been doing this for years so they know how to squeeze the juice out of their chips. Intel is new to the game. The chip most likely isn't the issue, the software is. If the software isn't fine tune and squeezing all the juice out, there will be some variances.
GSM is the world standard. You have to understand that here on MR (the small majority of a whole), people like to complain about the most mundane things. They also really only worry about "resale value" on a phone, instead of actually using and enjoying the phone.
99% of the world, could care less about this and quite honestly, it's a non issue. I am willing to bet the Qualcomm chipped phone also uses more power.
I see no difference between speeds on my 6S+ vs 7+. None.
Why does apple continue to make a model of iPhone that is restricted, would it not be better for the consumer if their phones worked on all carriers? Seems it would make since that all the phones work on the ATT,T-Mobile, Verizon and sprint networks therefore would work abroad as well. I'm sure there has to be a financial reason for them to have two different models probably getting a kick back from ATT.
For anyone who thinks a phone with CDMA support is a "world" phone, I'd be curious if they can name a single country that has only CDMA networks (and no GSM/EDGE/UMTS/HSPA/LTE networks). If such a country exists, I'm not personally aware of one, but it would be interesting to know.
You know that "world" means that it actually will work anywhere in the world that has a cellular signal, yes?
I live in an area where there's full GSM coverage, but I can drive an hour and a half out into a rural area where I would have spotty coverage if I only had GSM.
Which is the only reason I actually care about having CDMA in a phone. If I take a trip to visit my rural relatives, my signal always has a chance of being iffy. If I wanted to sell my phone to someone who lived out that way next year, they might not want it and I wouldn't feel right about selling it to them.
I don't always sell my phones. Sometimes I give them away. Wouldn't want to give one away to someone who might have spotty coverage with it, either.
In fact, there are some neighborhoods that are about 10 minutes from my house, in a rapidly-developing area and I have always gotten a crappy signal (and sometimes, I drop carrier) in those neighborhoods. People who move out there usually get Verizon. And, I don't live in the boondocks, either.
It's really not an issue except that it's illogical until we don't have any major carriers in the US who use CDMA. Can you use the Intel model with Verizon? Sure. Will it perform far worse than the QC version on Verizon? Yes. Which is not good for people who buy phones full price and like to be able to tell their carrier to take a hike if they decide they want to switch.
That's really all it is to me. My iP 7 plus works fine. But, I am on AT&T. For now.
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I do wish Apple would just sell the same phone to everyone, though. It would prevent any issues. Yes, you could argue that the Samsung/TSMC thing was largely not a huge deal, but not having CDMA flexibility in the US could be.
Exactly. They have the SIM free version finally out now (which is the Verizon model), but there is a longer shipping time to get it. Your best bet is to search istocknow.com and if they have the one you want in a nearby store, just go in and buy it. If you pay full price up front, you can get the Verizon model even if you are an AT&T customer. Good luck!