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I'll wait for an objective review. These reviews are well vetted by Apple. Do you think they'd let somebody borrow a phone a week before launch and allow them to slander it? Would a reviewer even do this if they could? Apple wouldn't let you have it so early next year in that case.

The purpose of these reviews is to build excitement and confirm positive thoughts. The same way Apple have advertised the phones through various talk shows; e.g., get Jimmy Kimmel (who I really like btw) to talk about it and gain more publicity.
 
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"But compared to the iPhone 6S, the iPhone 7 is a step improvement, not a major leap."
"The iPhone 7 and 7 Plus clearly hold their own, but I don’t think they blow the pack away."

And it comes from 'The Verge" :) Nothing but the hype (fake one) on the new cameras :)
 
I hate to be "that guy" but Steve Jobs would've never released a phone with software that was "incomplete"

He also wouldn't let almost 2 years slide between Mackbook Air and Macbook Pro updates.

I'm "that guy" that evokes SJ's from time to time too, but you are wrong on this one. Steve Jobs did announce vaporware or release half-baked s/w from time to time. If you recall the White iPhone 4 was delayed 9 months from announcement. On the Mac side OS X was very much a work-in-progress until 10.2, arguably even 10.3. Final Cut Pro X 1.0 was also missing features which Apple promised would come in future updates.
 
I agree with everything you said, but slightly disagree here. iOS 7 made my little iPhone 4 completely unusuable and I had to say goodbye. An upgrade was essential :(
I agree, but phones age gradually. At some point, upgrading will become essential. But is silly to do that comparison year over year.
 
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I'm usually not a frequent upgrader, but as a T-mobile customer using an iPhone 6, I was going to upgrade to a 6S to pick up the new low frequency LTE band 12 (T mobile had a cheap upgrade plan for that). When I went into the store, they said I could get an iPhone 7 as an upgrade with the same flash memory size for free (well, for $99 since I have a 64 GB iPhone 6, and to go to a 128GB phone, I had to pay more). There's a lot of band 12 in PA and along the east coast, where I usually travel.

Seemed like too good a deal to pass up, even though I'm annoyed at the loss of the headphone jack.
 
You joined MR in 2006. You should really know better than that.

The early iterations of iPhone OS were terribly buggy. Plus you mention "incomplete" software, yet the first iPhone didn't even have an App Store. Or video recording. Or even copy/paste, for crumb's sake.

And with the original iPhone, it had a recessed 3.5 jack that meant you couldn't use most standard headphones without an adapter. That's ironic.....
 
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Just went to Youtube and sub box is filled with iPhone 7 and 7 Plus reviews, all at once.
Was there an embargo or something?
 
I wonder if the rumor was true that certain major delivery carriers were stock piling phone at certain hubs across the country to make delivery easier. Not sure if that possible or not.

James
 
You joined MR in 2006. You should really know better than that.

The early iterations of iPhone OS were terribly buggy. Plus you mention "incomplete" software, yet the first iPhone didn't even have an App Store. Or video recording. Or even copy/paste, for crumb's sake.

Before I was "properly" exposed to Apple products, that was one of the biggest things that made me laugh in the face of anyone who was trying to convince me the original iPhone was any good. NO VIDEO RECORDING??? in 2007??? Nokia had video recording for years prior to that. Remember the 6600 in 2003? in 2007 Nokia had the N95 with a 5MP camera, video, and all sorts of niceness! What really got my attention was the iPhone 4, now THAT was special. The retina display was unlike anything I'd ever seen on anything... The touch response was in a league of its' own. The design. The camera. Generally at that stage iOS and the iPhone experience had been refined enough to make it one hell of a product. I was hooked ever since. Although admittedly no iPhone had impressed me as much since, I do realise that now that they've created the template for the perfect phone, they'll only ever tweak and refine it, there can never be as dramatic a change as going from a non-iPhone to an iPhone 4. Here's hoping the 2017 iPhone does that... but for now, matte black iPhone 7 please :D
 
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In the grand scheme of things we COULD all go several years between phone upgrades.

For me though, I decided to break out of the shackles of the phone company, bite the bullet and just buy an iPhone at the full retail price.

Each year, I buy the newest and best phone, this year I bought the iPhone 7 Plus 256Gb in Jet Black. But I was able to sell my 6S Plus for well over half what I paid for it. So the price of upgrading to the new phone was a few hundred bucks. No contract, no hassles, no begging permission from my phone company.

The new iPhone is $969. I'd be shocked if I couldn't sell it for north of $500 when the next iPhone comes out. Perhaps more.

So is $300-$400 worth it for an entire year of a brand new phone, and more importantly an amazing camera (I travel a lot and so a good phone camera is worth it to me). Yeah, for me it is. I probably could have gotten the 128Gb model and saved a little more, but the cost of correcting that mistake down the road is pretty high, so I'd rather pay the extra up front there.
 
The bulld up to last weeks keynote and all the hype on the forum from everyone preordering their iPhone 7 had me really close to ordering the phone myself. I had already guaranteed a decent buy back price with fonebank but I'm glad my better judgement kicked in and decided to hang onto my iPhone 6 another year.

The Verge review pretty much sums up what I already thought. Plus I would have wanted the smaller 7 which doesn't have the duel cameras, so again it would have been a useless upgrade imo.

I really hope Apple brings it next year with the 4.7" anniversary iPhone .
 
No 3.5mm phone socket - No buy.

I remember when Apple removed the CD drive and I told myself it was stupid and I wouldn't be purchasing one of the new computers that lacked them. I now own one of those computers and I think over the past 3 years I have needed to use that drive maybe one time where it inconvenienced me. Point being that technology advances and we always fight it at first because nobody likes change from what we are so used to. Over time that ridiculous new technology or idea becomes the norm. Not saying this will for sure be the case with the removal of the 3.5mm jack, but if nothing else it will get a lot of tech companies thinking.
 
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From the conclusion of the Engadget review:



Boy they really are twisting themselves into a pretzel here. They're "serious contenders for best smartphones", they're "very very good" but they don't meet some arbitrary definition of innovation or something groundbreaking so.... Either the phones are good or they're not. None of this "they're really great but" nonsense. All my friends and family who are on older devices just want to know should they upgrade or not? They don't give a crap if some tech writer thinks it's groundbreaking or not.

Apple only gave reviewers 5 days to use the phone. Most of the reviews feel rushed, have a let's get them over with feel. Not good.

It's like politics. Beating around the bush. Also that song about headphone jack is getting annoying. I remember when floppy drive was retired and many other things like LPT and optical drives. But the market is still immature for wireless. Well news flash dear "journalists" the world works in a way that only when you just do the transition to new standads the new standard will start being improved and innovated. It's not going to magically develop side by side until such time you can do the transition somehow non painfully.
 
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What really got my attention was the iPhone 4, now THAT was special. The retina display was unlike anything I'd ever seen on anything... The touch response was in a league of its' own. The design. The camera. Generally at that stage iOS and the iPhone experience had been refined enough to make it one hell of a product. I was hooked ever since.

Couldn't agree more. That was my first ever iPhone and it absolutely blew my mind. It was completely in a league of its own.
 
After seeing the Jetblack even briefly in those videos, I can sense all the fingerprints and tiny scratches even through my screen... pushing me a bit towards canceling my order and getting the regular black one.. damn, tough decision, I love the unibody feel, but not sure..
 
You joined MR in 2006. You should really know better than that.

The early iterations of iPhone OS were terribly buggy. Plus you mention "incomplete" software, yet the first iPhone didn't even have an App Store. Or video recording. Or even copy/paste, for crumb's sake.

We are still waiting for Flash! ;)
 
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I'll wait for an objective review. These reviews are well vetted by Apple.

BS. Independent publications do not submit copy to companies for vetting prior to publication. Now some journalists might be "fearful" they'll be cut off from the VIP list if they are too harsh, but they don't let the manufacturer dictate the story as you suggest.

There are also some tech pundits that are just top-of-the-heap fanboys -- The iMore crowd, John Gruber, etc. But even these guys don't let Apple inspect their copy, though Apple likely has a good idea they are going to be positive even with the worst of it's products. I would agree the people in this group are not all that objective but to suggest they are dishonest -- that's their opinion was not derived independently -- is really uncalled for unless you have proof positive, which I don't think you do.
 
The same reason why if a new Mac is released, reviewers wouldn't compare it to a Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro.

How can you reasonably tell how much better something is, without comparing it to the most recent iteration?

Your logic doesn't makes sense. The 7 has a completely different quad core processor. Using your logic you couldn't compare it to the 6s because it has an older duo core processor. If most people are on a two year upgrade schedule then it make more sense to compare all the new features of this iPhone to the 6 not the 6s. Or at the very least, like Apple does it it's keynote, do a double compare. That to me is a more balanced and informative review
 
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