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Boom! Mind blow. I can see it now. Probably like 10 years away, but for a second I imagined it... and it was awesome. On second thought, as I write this on a MacBook Pro, it's really nice to have this swivelling screen and this attached keyboard: clean, simple package.
Take a look at the HP Elite X3. Comes with an empty laptop that connects to phone and uses phone for compute, but laptop keyboard / screen. Also allows phone to connect to normal monitor / keyboard too.

Still early days for Windows 10 though.
 
Boom! Mind blow. I can see it now. Probably like 10 years away, but for a second I imagined it... and it was awesome. On second thought, as I write this on a MacBook Pro, it's really nice to have this swivelling screen and this attached keyboard: clean, simple package.

Offer a laptop docking battery case for a fraction of the cost. All of the benefits realized.
 
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Do you have some evidence that all Andriod phones -- or even some -- multitask the same as desktop OSes? I doubt what you're saying because you seem to think that iOS doesn't do background processing or that iOS doesn't have some very high resolution screens to run.

They have no evidence, because it's simply not true. Android and iOS both lack virtual memory (swap file). So when you run out of memory Apps will get killed off.

Edited: Forgot to add one thing. If you need more memory in Windows (for example) it will page out RAM to disk and programs will still be active. Worst case scenario is your program might need to be brought into RAM from disk causing a delay. But your program doesn't get killed off and there's no need to have a state saving feature (like iOS and Android) to deal with your App getting killed off.
 
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Stupid test. Mac operating system and android phones can run things in background and run at much higher screen resolution, handle tons of other things that mobile centric-iOS does not have to deal - like inability to run applications in background like android and full blown Mac OS

Exactly. These aren't accurate tests.
 
Stupid test. Mac operating system and android phones can run things in background and run at much higher screen resolution, handle tons of other things that mobile centric-iOS does not have to deal - like inability to run applications in background like android and full blown Mac OS

Translation: "I'm upset about the iPhone processor being so fast, so I'll make stuff up so I can claim it's not as good."
 
Stupid test. Mac operating system and android phones can run things in background and run at much higher screen resolution, handle tons of other things that mobile centric-iOS does not have to deal - like inability to run applications in background like android and full blown Mac OS

iOS apps can run processes in the background when they are not active. The bottleneck there is the lack of memory on iPhones.
 
It's just to put things into perspective really. You've got a CPU that you can hold in your hand, in a phone, which doesn't require any cooling... and it practically spanks any dual-core mobile chip currently shipping in a laptop. An in-house, Apple designed chip. It's a stunning achievement.

If Apple could just crack the problem of the x86 instruction set, then we could have MacBooks shipping that utterly cream the competition. Apple designed CPU. Apple designed OS. Apple designed hardware. Apple chip pipeline.

That's what I'd call a 'proper' Mac. One that doesn't rely on Intel.

This.

And remember that we still have the A10"X" Fusion version of the chip coming up for iPads that will be even faster.
 
That's what I'd call a 'proper' Mac. One that doesn't rely on Intel.

Maybe that's what we're waiting for!

Maybe they've got some desktop-class system-on-a-chips they're working on, and that explains the delay. Maybe when the new Macs drop, they'll be running some high-power variant of the A series mobile chip.

As you say, a laptop using iphone-class hardware engineering would be amazing. (what did I just say?!)
 
Stupid test. Mac operating system and android phones can run things in background and run at much higher screen resolution, handle tons of other things that mobile centric-iOS does not have to deal - like inability to run applications in background like android and full blown Mac OS
Uh, its being compared to a chip designed to run inside a phone that weighs 190 grams. With a tiny battery to power it.

What do you think the same chip would do scaled up to a MacBook? Use your head.
 
Stupid test. Mac operating system and android phones can run things in background and run at much higher screen resolution, handle tons of other things that mobile centric-iOS does not have to deal - like inability to run applications in background like android and full blown Mac OS
I thought it was common knowledge that iOS freezes whatever apps it can in the background?
Actually not. It's a common misconception that Android runs "real" multi-tasking. It did it at once, but the latest releases has been running a multi-tasking mode much like iOS.

And the apps are not frozen. They can still do plenty of things. Spotify can play music in the background, Filer (and other download applications) can download files in the background, apps can use GPS etc. Is there anything more you want to do with an app running in the background other than talking about "real multi-tasking?

Also, none of the things you mentioned will affect the Geekbench performance. Your arguments are invalid.
 
Uh, its being compared to a chip designed to run inside a phone that weighs 190 grams. With a tiny battery to power it.

What do you think the same chip would do scaled up to a MacBook? Use your head.

^This. So far the A series chips have been designed for *mobile*, not PCs. There's no barrier to them designing an A chip for bigger hardware if that is what Apple is planning.
 
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Also not measured in Geekbench 4. My Air in Geekbench 4 just scored 6700 on multi-core. Unless I am missing something completely...
 
Also not measured in Geekbench 4. My Air in Geekbench 4 just scored 6700 on multi-core. Unless I am missing something completely...
You can't compare the two scores between versions. They mean two completely different things.
 
The year-on-year advancement that Apple has achieved for their CPUs are what is impressive. But this is still only a synthetic benchmark test, even the A9 chips are impressive and surpassed lots of Macs, and almost equal to the MacBook.
The lack of improvement and frequents delays of Intels chips may contribute to a bigger interest and opportunity for Apple to switch to their own chips in their Mac lineup, but only Apple themselves know how far they are in the development of high-power "desktop/laptop"-class CPUs.
 
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Given that the Air has never been Apple's highest performance machine, I'm not sure they are ready just yet to think about transitioning the line over to the A series CPUs. I wouldn't be surprised if in 2-3 years Apple's progress on the chip side may be such that this becomes a real possibility for anything other than Mac Pro-level machines.
 
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Unbelievable, iPhone 7 is basically a desktop PC that fits in your pocket. It's a supercomputer from 20 years ago, that runs on batteries, that fits in your pocket. AMAZING!!
 
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"iPhone 7 Series is Faster Than Any MacBook Air Ever Made"
Except the really fast one...
Try reading comprehension.
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Faster then any MBA ever produced......wait a minute.....except that one. Seriously? Cut the bs.

Impressive results, but imo not that relevant as I don't think ultimate peak performance is that relevant anymore. I'm more impressed by the leaps in efficiency.

It clearly, CLEARLY says it's faster than them all in OVERALL scores. EXCEPT that in the MULTICORE SCORE ONLY, one MBA manages to surpass it...but fails in the Single core AND the OVERALL SCORE. READ!
 
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Stupid test. Mac operating system [...] run at much higher screen resolution,

The larger MacBook Air has a resolution of 1440x900.

The smaller iPhone has a resolution of 1706x960.

So no - the smallest of iPhones has a higher resolution than the largest of MacBook Airs.

handle tons of other things that mobile centric-iOS does not have to deal - like inability to run applications in background like android and full blown Mac OS

What background applications are you running on your MacBook Air? Mail? Calendar? iMessages? FaceTime?

All of those same applications are running in the background on your iPhone, too.
 
Apple truly is doing an amazing job (along with ARM, etc..) in making the A series of processors an amazing chip & platform, and I'm proud as an Apple device user to have them in my mobile devices like the iPhone and iPad.

With that said, I hope that Apple doesn't start putting the A Chips into their Mac line of Desktops & Laptops, not Even the Air.
The iPad Pro, and similar iPads serve the market where the A chip can shine. But if they put it in an an actual laptop called a "Mac" I am concerned that it would cause market fragmentation and confusion. Most people I know using Macbook's (Pro/Air/etc) also use VMWare Fusion or Parallels, or BootCamp, etc... and even people that don't will I think get confused why their Steam Games or GOG games, or other applications are no longer supported or no longer perform as well. I realize Intel isn't shining like they were when they released the Core Duos, the I'series, etc. but Intel chips are still great, and if Apple would update their Mac lines to having current gen CPU's and chipsets then that would have more benefit than going with an A series chip I think.

As an Apple fan, a shareholder, a (novice) developer, someone with many Apple certifications, an Apple user since the Apple IIe, and any other categories I could be classified into, I do not want to return to a similar scenario we had with PowerPC's. The Power PC's were good chips in their own right, but moving to Intel X86/X86_64 was a breath of fresh air that I hope we don't forget about.

Edit: But Apple by all means PLEASE put the A10Fusion (or an enhanced version of them)in a new AppleTV! :)
 
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Translation: "I'm upset about the iPhone processor being so fast, so I'll make stuff up so I can claim it's not as good."

If you even could run OSX on a A10, you could be sure that a 13" Macbook Pro will still outperform the A10...

iPhone vs Macbook Pro is apples and oranges in this case for the reasons already stated.

The A10 is still a great CPU..
 
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