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Stupid test. Mac operating system and android phones can run things in background and run at much higher screen resolution, handle tons of other things that mobile centric-iOS does not have to deal - like inability to run applications in background like android and full blown Mac OS
Do you have some evidence that all Andriod phones -- or even some -- multitask the same as desktop OSes? I doubt what you're saying because you seem to think that iOS doesn't do background processing or that iOS doesn't have some very high resolution screens to run.
 
The headline isn't misleading. The one Air is only faster than the iPhone 7 on the multicore benchmark by about 0.4% but is slower on the single core benchmark by about 8.3%.

That means the iPhone 7 is faster overall.

A benchmark is a severely restricted way of looking at performance but for the iPhone 7 to offer that level of performance with such a low powered processor is impressive.

Yup, that's why it's exciting to think Apple is working to one day make a desktop-class Ax-series chip. Found this interesting apple insider article on what they'd need to overcome to achieve this: http://appleinsider.com/articles/15...ck-from-moving-intel-macs-to-custom-arm-chips
 
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Stupid test. Mac operating system and android phones can run things in background and run at much higher screen resolution, handle tons of other things that mobile centric-iOS does not have to deal - like inability to run applications in background like android and full blown Mac OS

Doesn't matter, this is a CPU benchmark. Besides, that has more to do with RAM than anything else. iOS can run multiple apps at once, just by switching in between apps or the split screen feature for iPads.

The fact is, Apple's in house SoCs are destroying the competition with half the number of performance cores. Apple is single handedly at least a generation ahead.

So when will we be getting phones capable of running osx when docked to a keyboard and monitor?

Wasn't Microsoft trying to do something like this with their Windows phones for developing nations?
 
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Do you have some evidence that all Andriod phones -- or even some -- multitask the same as desktop OSes? I doubt what you're saying because you seem to think that iOS doesn't do background processing or that iOS doesn't have some very high resolution screens to run.


iOS handles multitasking differently than Android. Android enssentaily alllwa unrestricted background process and app can wake up different apps. So if app developer want, WeChat can wake up QQ and other TenCent apps.

Android does not remove app from memory unless the device runs of memory.

iOS however, only allow certain kind of background processes. App does not really stay in memory for long time.

The way iOS handles background processes and multitasking are drastically different from Android or any desktop process.

The way iOS do background processes and multitasking allows better performance for forgrounbd app and better battery life. I much more prefer the way Apple design its OSes.
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Doesn't matter, this is a CPU benchmark. Besides, that has more to do with RAM than anything else. iOS can run ,multiple apps at once, just by switching in between apps or the split screen feature for iPads.

The fact is, Apple's in house SoCs are destroying the competition with half the number of performance cores. Apple is single handedly at least a generation ahead.



Wasn't Microsoft trying to do something like this with their Windows phones for developing nations?

Because Microsoft is in position of doing that. Microsoft can leverage its advantage on Windows and transition developer to develop app that works on all kind of devices.

Right now, iOS and MacOS are entirely two different animals. When Apple want to do what Microsoft is doing, Apple need make sure iOS app runs on new platform.
 
If I remember correctly, the original MacBook Air had a chip built especially for it by Intel, and several times Macs got early releases of Intel chips. I think this comparison would be different if that was still the way things were happening.
That happened once, with the original MacBook Air. That chip overheated and frequently shut down cores. In October 2010 Apple mainstreamed the Air and released it with a 2-year old processor.
 
Call me when it runs x64 applications
what you typed doesn't make sense. it already is running 64-bit applications. are you referring to x86?
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Stupid test. Mac operating system and android phones can run things in background and run at much higher screen resolution, handle tons of other things that mobile centric-iOS does not have to deal - like inability to run applications in background like android and full blown Mac OS
when it comes to android, don't you mean "full blown-up"? seems to be what the leading seller of android does best. have fun with that.
 
Do you have some evidence that all Andriod phones -- or even some -- multitask the same as desktop OSes? I doubt what you're saying because you seem to think that iOS doesn't do background processing or that iOS doesn't have some very high resolution screens to run.
I thought it was common knowledge that iOS freezes whatever apps it can in the background?
 

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Yesterday, John Gruber at Daring Fireball highlighted just how well Apple's A10 Fusion chip found in its iPhone 7 stands up to the competition in terms of raw speed.

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(Image taken from Daring Fireball.)

Looking at Geekbench results for single and multi-core performance across a range of smartphones, Gruber noted that the iPhone 7 series beats all newcomers on every score, including Samsung's new Galaxy S7 and Note 7 Android phones.

More impressively perhaps, the A10 Fusion processor scores faster overall results than every MacBook Air Apple has ever made, only once falling behind a multi-core score recorded for the early 2015 MacBook Air, which is powered by an Intel Core i7 and scores 5650, just edging the iPhone 7's result of 5630. Still, the laptop can't keep up with the A10 chip's raw single-core performance (2989 compared to 3261). Apple's latest flagship phone also performs comparably to an early 2013 MacBook Pro, powered by an Intel Core i5.

Apple has invested heavily in its Ax-series of processors, with some commentators and rumors suggesting it could eventually transition an ARM-based processor to future MacBooks. You can learn more about the technology behind Apple's A10 Fusion chip in MacRumors' dedicated article on the subject.

Article Link: iPhone 7 Series is Faster Than Any MacBook Air Ever Made
 
So when will we be getting phones capable of running osx when docked to a keyboard and monitor?
Boom! Mind blow. I can see it now. Probably like 10 years away, but for a second I imagined it... and it was awesome. On second thought, as I write this on a MacBook Pro, it's really nice to have this swivelling screen and this attached keyboard: clean, simple package.
 
That means the iPhone 7 is faster overall.

Surely though, the Air comes with a GPU therefore handling more graphic-intensive stuff. I think once we get fully-fledged versions of our favourite design software on our Apple Watch, allowing us to wirelessly work from any screen, that's when things really heat up.
 
Stupid test. Mac operating system and android phones can run things in background and run at much higher screen resolution, handle tons of other things that mobile centric-iOS does not have to deal - like inability to run applications in background like android and full blown Mac OS

It was a hardware comparison, which is interesting in its own right.
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So when will we be getting phones capable of running osx when docked to a keyboard and monitor?

That's the future.
 
Stupid test. Mac operating system and android phones can run things in background and run at much higher screen resolution, handle tons of other things that mobile centric-iOS does not have to deal - like inability to run applications in background like android and full blown Mac OS
You do actually know that the iPhone 7 Plus runs at 2272 by 1280 (scaled down to full HD), which is much higher resolution than any MacBook Air (not that it matters on the CPU)...
 
Stupid test. Mac operating system and android phones can run things in background and run at much higher screen resolution, handle tons of other things that mobile centric-iOS does not have to deal - like inability to run applications in background like android and full blown Mac OS

Running background apps on a mobile, with higher resolution than the eye can see, is exactly the nonsense that led Samsung to hit their heads on a very hot and painful ceiling. Now they've hit this limit, where will they go? They relied on throwing ever more power at the problem, which they can no longer afford to do. Meanwhile, the ever more efficient iOS and A series processors continue to outpace at lower and safer power levels.
 
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This reminds me of an earlier suggestion.

Why not have a iPhone 7 docking station that links to your keyboard and monitor in the office?

Out in the field get it down in iPhones notes, back in the office get it typed up in Pages with a bit of formatting. They already have the tech to make it quick.

And while your at it Apple make it wireless docking so I can leave the phone in my pocket.

That's the future, right there!

In the meantime can anyone tell me how to force the keyboard to return to the letters after I press the comma? It seems to have been changed.
 
I happen to have the MacBook Air they are discussing. A very good computer. I find speed is needed on a laptop. On my phone, iPhone 6S, speed is not nearly as important as UI and apps and display resolution and radio quality.

The one feature request I have is a thicker double battery option. I ain't gettin' it under the facist Cook regime.

You can't even get a wireless modem on a laptop!

Bottom line, totally different use cases.
 
Doesn't matter, this is a CPU benchmark. Besides, that has more to do with RAM than anything else. iOS can run multiple apps at once, just by switching in between apps or the split screen feature for iPads.

The fact is, Apple's in house SoCs are destroying the competition with half the number of performance cores. Apple is single handedly at least a generation ahead.



Wasn't Microsoft trying to do something like this with their Windows phones for developing nations?

Most newer Windows 10 mobile phones ( 950, 950XL and HP elite x3) support Continuum where you can plug them into a dock and run Microsoft Store apps on a big screen whilst continuing to use the phone as normal I.e. Not screen mirroring.

All these phones also support IRIS scanning too.
 



Does that mean it finally could run Logic Pro X?


Yesterday, John Gruber at Daring Fireball highlighted just how well Apple's A10 Fusion chip found in its iPhone 7 stands up to the competition in terms of raw speed.

iphone-7-geekbench-scores.jpg

(Image taken from Daring Fireball.)

Looking at Geekbench results for single and multi-core performance across a range of smartphones, Gruber noted that the iPhone 7 series beats all newcomers on every score, including Samsung's new Galaxy S7 and Note 7 Android phones.

More impressively perhaps, the A10 Fusion processor scores faster overall results than every MacBook Air Apple has ever made, only once falling behind a multi-core score recorded for the early 2015 MacBook Air, which is powered by an Intel Core i7 and scores 5650, just edging the iPhone 7's result of 5630. Still, the laptop can't keep up with the A10 chip's raw single-core performance (2989 compared to 3261). Apple's latest flagship phone also performs comparably to an early 2013 MacBook Pro, powered by an Intel Core i5.

Apple has invested heavily in its Ax-series of processors, with some commentators and rumors suggesting it could eventually transition an ARM-based processor to future MacBooks. You can learn more about the technology behind Apple's A10 Fusion chip in MacRumors' dedicated article on the subject.

Article Link: iPhone 7 Series is Faster Than Any MacBook Air Ever Made
 
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