Naw, I'm pretty sure consumers are allowed to call companies out on their poor behaviours if we choose to. Nothing wrong with accountability for these major corporations.
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iphone 7 Water resist.... I am verry verry disapointed
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Naw, I'm pretty sure consumers are allowed to call companies out on their poor behaviours if we choose to. Nothing wrong with accountability for these major corporations.
Apple don't make the ratings. It's a set of standards with standard tests and standard test parameters.
Where do we stop? Boiling water? Liquid nitrogen? Fast flowing water? Acid?
IP67 relates to liquid ingress under strict guidelines provided by the IEC
You, on the other hand, sound like a genius when you tell us how much Apple stuff you've bought while simultaneously hating everything they do.
No it doesn't, but the iPhone 7 does NOT PASS the test under the criteria you have given, therefore according to your own description, it is NOT IP67 rated. This isn't a question of needing to use YouTube videos as evidence (as you rather sarcastically suggest), but of real experiments that can be carried out in by an independent lab to discover if the phone passes the test. I'm sure, when it comes to a class action lawsuit, this type of testing will most certainly take place and will confirm what has been discovered in real world usage. If the iPhone 7 ends up with water damage in less than a foot of water when immersed and quickly removed (as real world examples suggest), it will almost certainly end up with severe water damage when put in a meter of water and left there for 30 minutes. As you have stated, it HAS to be able to come out with ZERO DAMAGE from this immersion in order to have the IP67 rating.
You're delusional if you think it will become a lawsuit..... they literally say they don't honor water damage. It's not their own rating.... I could go on but you seem hell bent on this Apple sucks crusade.
Where do you come up with this nonsense?
They did not pass the IP67 but somehow got certified for it? And that they used a different iphone for the test and they sell a different one now?
Wow
If I've changed any of my behavior it's because of what I've seen multiple times in tear downs and independent tests. It's not because of one of Apples ads or anything that was said/shown in the keynote.
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But many others would do it because of advertisements (otherwise what's the point of those ads and the money spent on them).
Well, if you're interested, you can view all of YouTube videos showing that the iPhone 7/7+ does survive more than a casual splash of water.
That way, you won't have to put so much trust in one random, anonymous internet post and assume it applies to all iPhones 7/7 pluses.
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I can't control what others do, but I don't take anything in an ad as a guarantee of any kind. If anyone asked my opinion on that, I'd say it's a terrible idea.
That doesn't mean some phones don't have a manufacturing flaw that could limit its water resistance. And yes, I've seen a guy dunk it in the ocean on a windy day and although it did get messed up, the phone was mostly functional. So when it's working as advertised, it works pretty well.
Yes, but when more and more reports start accumulating, then it would be good to take notice.
Which doesn't say anything about some phones not surviving something like that or something that would still fall under the IP67 rating.
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So it's fair to say the ads aren't good and can be misleading.
Introducing a strawman argument that shifts the focus from whether the iPhone 7 is IP67 rated to Apple honouring water damage doesn't change the very real indicators that the phone is NOT IP 67 rated, and is being sold under false pretence. It certainly wouldn't be the first time that Apple have outright lied to the public to sell their products, as deception has become a regular part of their way of doing business.
How about accountability on the part of the consumer? It doesn't seem to me that Apple should be held responsible for repair/replacement because some guy let his four-year-old kid play around with his expensive new iPhone in the first place and near a bucket of water in the second place...... That was a disaster just waiting to happen! IMO the full accountability in this situation rests on the shoulders of the consumer.
That IS a good one. My all-time favorite is the guy who scratched his phone up by dropping it in a box of DIAMONDS and wanted a new phone under warranty. We need some sort of hall of fame for these winners.
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I'll raise my hand on that one.
I feel like that burden of proof is on the manufacturer. And when the manufacturer reserves the right to refuse water damage under any and all constitutions... well, I think my opinion in this matter is clear.
Here is a nice article on the IP67 rating. If Apple is saying water resistant and not proof, I would still work hard to keep my device away from fluids.
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/water-dust-resistance-ratings-in-gadgets-explained/
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/water-dust-resistance-ratings-in-gadgets-explained/
Is this an official claim made by Apple? Was the iPhone 7 officially certified or rated? Or was this some sort of advertising gimmick?
If there is an official rating then I would think they have to honor the damage and replace the phone.
Seems pretty cut and dry no?
"False pretense" lol you really have me in stitches. Seriously, why are you on the forums? I'll never understand trolls. If you have so much resentment towards Apple, go buy something else and go elsewhere.....Apparently you need someone to really break it down it to you In the simplest of ways for you to somewhat comprehend.
Any IP rating is given via the IEC.
Apple successfully registered their iPhones as IP67 meaning THEY MET THE REQUIREMENTS TO DO SO.
That means that Apple can claim IP67 rating and advertise as such.
No where do they claim it's waterproof.
No where do they say they will honor water damaged phones.
If you have any reason to be upset, which you don't, it should be towards the IEC for giving Apple the ok to sell their phones under the IECs rating.
Apple didn't just say, "Hey, do you think anyone will look into it if we lie and say we're IP67 rated even though we're not?!"
Apple did everything they had to do to gain the certification, just like EVERY OTHER OEM HAS TO......
No special treatment was given to Apple.
Sent from my dry iPhone 7 Plus
Still confused. How could a product be rated for something and then not be able to meet the requirements?
Is it all in the wording? Resistant, not proof? Seems gimmicky to me.
It is a gimmick and full of marketing fluff. They don't have to meet the full rating to carry it. There isn't some board forcing them to prove they are making that rating. Based on what Apple has said, my guess is that they have tested it against splashes and it survived. So, don't dunk your phone.