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Water "PROOF". Wow . Resistant is one thing, claiming your device is water "proof" is a whole new ballgame.

If they get rid of the headphone connector it will be a sad day.

Not really. If they include wireless bluetooth Apple branded or Beats branded headphones, then it's all good.
 
I didn't hear you complain when Sony tries to catch up with software, camera (ironically), hardware. They're the last company to bring out finger scanner even after the Chinese brands. Let's wait and see for Sony pay to come out. :rolleyes:

Would that Sony be the same company that makes the camera lenses and sensor for the likes of Apple? Sony Pay??? I will be using Google Pay.
 
Can you show me a phone that is designed to be sat on?

So you're saying all bending issues were caused by strong physical abuse like sitting on it? That's hardly surprising isn't it?

Yeah right, the bending was totally users' fault...:rolleyes:
 
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So you're saying all bending issues were caused by strong physical abuse like sitting on it? That's hardly surprising isn't it?

Yeah right, the bending was totally users' fault...:rolleyes:
Please, tell me how metal just bends itself? Idiots all over the internet start intentionally trying to bend their phones and you're telling me that the users aren't at fault here?

Why the hell do people sit on their phones?
 
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Please, tell me how metal just bends itself? Idiots all over the internet start intentionally trying to bend their phones and you're telling me that the users aren't at fault here?

Why the hell do people sit on their phones?

Why do you imply all iPhone bend issues had to with serious physical abuse? iPhone 6 had a weak spot in its chassis that made it vulnerable and Apple rectified it with the iPhone 6S through series 7000 aluminium. I don't see how you defend Apple to have absolutely no responsibility on the design flaw.
 
Why do you imply all iPhone bend issues had to with serious physical abuse? iPhone 6 had a weak spot in its chassis that made it vulnerable and Apple rectified it with the iPhone 6S through series 7000 aluminium. I don't see how you defend Apple to have absolutely no responsibility on the design flaw.
Weak point as in, if I try to bend my phone THIS is the weakest point.

Can you point to any phones that bent without having too much pressure applied to them? You make it sound like the weak spot is causing phones to just bend on their own, that's not the case. In fact, that spot was only pointed out by an analysis of...you guessed it, someone intentionally bending their phone looking for a weak spot.
 
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I'm not implying bending doesn't require any effort on user's part. Although the whole 'bendgate' was blown out of proportion by the media (as you said earlier), underlying the scandal was a true design flaw on Apple's part which is what I'm pointing out. Other phones are not immune to this, but this issue was particularly prominent in iPhone 6/Plus. And the fact that this has been specifically addressed in the 6S, I feel the issue was substantial although others may disagree / call it a mere coincidence.
 
I'm not implying bending doesn't require any effort on user's part. Although the whole 'bendgate' was blown out of proportion by the media (as you said earlier), underlying the scandal was a true design flaw on Apple's part which is what I'm pointing out. Other phones are not immune to this, but this issue was particularly prominent in iPhone 6/Plus. And the fact that this has been specifically addressed in the 6S, I feel the issue was substantial although others may disagree / call it a mere coincidence.
I wouldn't call it coincidence, I would call it a clear PR move to address hysteria that was blown up by the media.

I still fail to see how this was a "flaw"? Pointing out that the thinnest part of the phone's frame is where it will bend when more than 60 pounds of pressure are applied to it sounds more like common sense. It STILL is the weakest part of the frame on the 6s, but somehow it being made out of stronger aluminum so it takes more pressure to bend it there (which it will do) means it's no longer a flaw? That doesn't make any sense.

If I take a piece of steel and cut out a hole, then try to bend it, it will obviously bend where that hole is located. How does that make it a flaw though? Beams are riveted together on many bridges. If you were to overload the bridge with far more weight than it was designed to carry it would naturally break at those rivets, but does that make it a flaw when the use case (far more weight than designed for) far exceeds what the design was made to withstand?

What I'm saying is how can something be called a flaw when it is the weak point on a phone that isn't designed to be under those stresses in the first place? Should Apple start putting mini roll cages inside the phones in case someone decides they want to stand on their phone as well? After all, if someone intentionally (or otherwise) puts far more weight on a device than its ever supposed to withstand and it failed, that's a "flaw" right?
 
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I wouldn't call it coincidence, I would call it a clear PR move to address hysteria that was blown up by the media.

I still fail to see how this was a "flaw"? Pointing out that the thinnest part of the phone's frame is where it will bend when more than 60 pounds of pressure are applied to it sounds more like common sense. It STILL is the weakest part of the frame on the 6s, but somehow it being made out of stronger aluminum so it takes more pressure to bend it there (which it will do) means it's no longer a flaw? That doesn't make any sense.

If I take a piece of steel and cut out a hole, then try to bend it, it will obviously bend where that hole is located. How does that make it a flaw though? Beams are riveted together on many bridges. If you were to overload the bridge with far more weight than it was designed to carry it would naturally break at those rivets, but does that make it a flaw when the use case (far more weight than designed for) far exceeds what the design was made to withstand?

What I'm saying is how can something be called a flaw when it is the weak point on a phone that isn't designed to be under those stresses in the first place? Should Apple start putting mini roll cages inside the phones in case someone decides they want to stand on their phone as well? After all, if someone intentionally (or otherwise) puts far more weight on a device than its ever supposed to withstand and it failed, that's a "flaw" right?

If we get into numbers, Unbox Therapy did a test (albeit not a thorough scientific one but still a fair representation) and iPhone 6 bent at ~30lb of force and iPhone 6S (not the official Apple model) roughly at ~80lb of force. If we were to go by these numbers, 6S is more than twice (almost thrice) as strong as iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 bends at half of 60lb force you mention. As a result, there are instances of people complaining phone bending in pocket and it is really not the physics that me, or the media or the internet is complaining. Nobody is asking for Apple to defy physics or design a phone that is unbendable, its the relative threshold of force required to bend the iPhone 6 that makes it a flaw. Now, with respect to 6S, the fact that series 7000 Aluminium requires so much of force (~80lb as per the link below), makes it nearly unbendable in most practical situations thereby not making it a flaw.

 
Are the antenna bands and camera "bulge" really that big a deal? I mean, it seems to me if that's what you're complaining about then there's really nothing to complain about. It's about as close to making up something to whine about as you can get.
 
yipee, welcome back, proprietary, pre-smartphone headphone-jacks, we missed you (not really). e.g., no more expensive headphones for you. bad iphone.
 
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