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People may want new designs, but unlike the retarded mac lineup, the iphone is still good for what it does. Apple can not think of a totally new design every year "just because..." .

Personally I would like to see more innovation on the software side of things, iOS is old and built for a different time and era of cellphones. We need a change like the s OS 9 -> X change.
 
Sorry to startle you!

I hope you're able to carry on about your day without my opinions plaguing your thoughts!

/drama

Hold onto your pants cause it's coming again.....

In terms of form-factor, the 4/4s and 5/5s were similar. (!)

The iPhone 6/6s and 7/?? also have a similar form factor (!). Maybe even....... MORE similar! But that does not detract from the fact that the 4/4s and 5/5s were of similar form -- even though not as close as the 6/6s and 7 is.

Also, what does it matter how big the differences are between the 4/4s > 5/5s and 6/6s > 7/?? -- point is, it would NOT be weird, shocking, disappointing, <insert dramatic emotional response here> if the form factor stayed the same for next year's device.... The 7 is here. We know it's similar to the 6. We also know that EVERY "s" model thus far has been the same as the model the preceded it -- so regardless of exactly *how* different the jump was between the 6/s > 7, let's not smash our phones if the 7x doesn't follow suit.

The point that people are trying to make which you do not seem to grasp is that visually there is not much difference between the iPhone 6 and iPhone 7.

If you were to lay the phones down next to each other, screen facing up, you would certainly be able to see the difference between an iPhone 4/4s and an iPhone 5/5s and you would also be able to see difference between an iPhone 5/5s and an iPhone 6/6s.

There is no visual difference between an iPhone 6/6s and a 7 unless you start looking for it and even then these are either minor differences (camera bump and antenna lines) or change for the sake of it (removal of headphone port).
 
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You obviously havent used vanilla Android.The software on the Pixel is as fast as iOS[/QUOTE]

No one or hardly anyone has.

That's ANOTHER of the problem with Android besides malware, crashing and shoddy phones.
Did I mention malware? Is that manufacturers abandon the customer as soon as you're suckered in to buying a gadget.
The new updates only work for one or two devices and never on any other devices.

I mean what percentage are using this "absolutely fabulous vanilla" you speak of? 1% of devices? I would guess the pixel software is running on less than 1%.
And with all the specs they throw at even the newest high end Android, they still run far slower than a years old iPhone.
 
If it becomes YET another incremental update with a couple of improvements, like the iPhone 7 is, Im pretty sure Apple will notice a major drop in sales. It would for sure not be something I will buy, all ready regretting upgrading from 6s to 7, there has been no noticeable improvements, but I miss the audio jack.

If this is the case, and with the extreme lack of updates and all the problems happening with the MacBook Pro and all the products they have stopped developing, I wonder what has happened in Cupertino? I never seen any other company taking such an abrupt turn ever before. I left the mac side, switched to PC, and thank god for that... If these rumors are true I feel its like Apple is begging me to stop buying iPhones too.
 
Hmmm....
The point that people are trying to make which you do not seem to grasp is that visually there is not much difference between the iPhone 6 and iPhone 7.

If you were to lay the phones down next to each other, screen facing up, you would certainly be able to see the difference between an iPhone 4/4s and an iPhone 5/5s and you would also be able to see difference between an iPhone 5/5s and an iPhone 6/6s.

There is no visual difference between an iPhone 6/6s and a 7 unless you start looking for it and even then these are either minor differences (camera bump and antenna lines) or change for the sake of it (removal of headphone port).

If you were so diligent in reading my posts you would have read the one where I recount (again) IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!

It does not matter one iota

that's not the point

that's not the point

that's not the point I'm trying to make... the difference between the 4/5 and 6/7 is irrelevant. It doesn't matter. That's not the point. That's not where we are. We are not between one form factor and another. We are between a major release and an "S" cycle.

Tell me -- when was the last iPhone "S" that deviated in form factor from the model before?
 



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Apple will release updated versions of the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus next year, aptly called the "iPhone 7s" and "iPhone 7s Plus," according to Japanese blog Mac Otakara.

The report claims the smartphones will retain the same aluminum design as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus, with only internal changes, including the addition of a faster A11 chip.

The report added it is highly probable the iPhone 7s and iPhone 7s Plus will come in an all-new red color alongside current Black, Jet Black, Gold, Rose Gold, and Silver options.

Multiple rumors suggest Apple plans to release three new iPhone models next year, including updated 4.7-inch and 5.5-inch models with traditional LCD displays and a larger premium model with an OLED display and glass casing, but reports have been conflicting about which features will be included on each model.

If this report is accurate, it could signify Apple's plans to release a completely overhauled glass-backed iPhone with a curved, bezel-free OLED display and wireless charging at the high end of its 2017 smartphone lineup, while making only incremental upgrades to its traditional 4.7-inch and 5.5-inch iPhones with LCD displays.

An earlier report from Japanese website Nikkei Asian Review said Apple plans to release three glass-backed iPhones next year, while it was said the 4.7-inch iPhone would get wireless charging, so there remains a lack of consensus among rumors--perhaps unsurprising given new iPhones are likely over nine months away.

Mac Otakara was first to report about Apple's plans to remove the headphone jack and add a new Jet Black color for the iPhone 7 lineup, but its track record is not perfect. Its rumor from November about Apple adding a "Jet White" color for iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus has also yet to materialize.

Article Link: 'iPhone 7s' and 'iPhone 7s Plus' Said to Come in All-New Red Color, Lack New Design and Wireless Charging
[doublepost=1481211708][/doublepost]NEW color!!! Sooooooo excited!!! ;)
 
This is increasingly likely to be true. There will be 7s and 7s plus that use the old design, and then a 10-year special edition using the new design for a significant premium.
 
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Said this when everyone was adamant next year was the 10th anniversary iPhone 8.

It will be 7 and 7s and an "iPhone edition" which will basically be the 10th anniversary. Oled glass etc and it will be VERY expensive.
 
Said this when everyone was adamant next year was the 10th anniversary iPhone 8.

It will be 7 and 7s and an "iPhone edition" which will basically be the 10th anniversary. Oled glass etc and it will be VERY expensive.
It sure will and everybody will buy it and buy the one with OLED
 
Hmmm....


If you were so diligent in reading my posts you would have read the one where I recount (again) IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!

It does not matter one iota

that's not the point

that's not the point

that's not the point I'm trying to make... the difference between the 4/5 and 6/7 is irrelevant. It doesn't matter. That's not the point. That's not where we are. We are not between one form factor and another. We are between a major release and an "S" cycle.

Tell me -- when was the last iPhone "S" that deviated in form factor from the model before?

The iPhone 6s was thicker than the iPhone 6 ;)

On a serious note, it makes no difference at all if Apple have always stuck with the same form factor between a major release and an "S" cycle, they really can't afford to think "we do it this way because that is the way we have always done it" , what happened to Think Different?

Seriously that kind of ritualistic behavior is about as far away from the way an innovative company should operate as it gets.

The truth is the external appearances of the phone matter, not just for cosmetic reasons either.

I think the one of the biggest improvements Apple could make to the iPhone right now would be to improve the screen to body ratio of the phones. You shouldn't have to have a gigantic phone like the iPhone 7 plus to get a 5.5 inch display, other smartphone makers have squeezed a 5.5 inch display into a significantly smaller form factor than the plus model iPhones.

I would be willing to bet that a lot of iPhone users would take a better screen/body ratio over the marginal performance increases that the A11 chip will likely offer. Thats why posters in this thread sneering at people for caring about the external design of the phone is so misguided.
 
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Design should be updated next year iPhone like curved or bezelfree display, new 5.1" iPhone. Should make some changes in design
 
Mac Otakara was first to report about Apple's plans to remove the headphone jack and add a new Jet Black color for the iPhone 7 lineup, but its track record is not perfect. Its rumor from November about Apple adding a "Jet White" color for iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus has also yet to materialize.

I remember the iPhone 4 White being rumored a while and then arriving way late shortly after I got mine in black when I was tired of waiting...

Just saying that it might not have materialized yet because creating a new color device isn't always as simple as painting it differently and calling it a day. (especially white)

Glassed Silver:mac
 
Lol heh isn't it already?

Actually no - i just think they have a hard time adjusting from being micromanaged by Steve Jobs, who had a super good overview, to put the responsibility down on each of their departments. Things take a lot longer now, because of the missing puzzle - unfortunately.
 
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Going between my SE and 7, I really miss the deep press when I'm using the SE. One person's gimmick is another's great improvement.
I also love the new home button in the 7. Love how fast it processes video and filters.

And looks-wise, much better.
I skipped the 6 series because of how awful they looked and missed out on bendgate and the problems to the screen.
Missed the battery issues of the 6s.

Glad I missed the 6 series period.

If a person skipped the 6 and went with the 7 from an older phone, you still saved money. With the 6 to 6s, I think it was buying the same phone twice. With the 6s to 7? Buying the same phone three times with less usage due to taking away the jack.
 
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If a person skipped the 6 and went with the 7 from an older phone, you still saved money. With the 6 to 6s, I think it was buying the same phone twice. With the 6s to 7? Buying the same phone three times with less usage due to taking away the jack.
How so? In no scenario would you have gotten the dual camera. A faster processor, improved cameras, and a much nicer design, in my case a sexy matte black. Others a sexy glossy black. No antenna lines or ugly off radius camera with a silver ring.

You got stuck with an ugly phone with far inferior specs. If it doesn't matter to you, that's cool.
 
Can't foresee Apple doing that. Consumers want three screen segments at least: 4", 4.7", 5.5." Why would they want to spend extra $ to get all the features only at the 5.5" area? The 7 vs 7+ involves just a bigger screen (with the higher resolution), dual cameras, and a couple of non-ground breaking features. The experience is more or less the same. Sure, the extra GB of RAM makes a difference, but not to the average consumer because you will not run up your RAM usage and cause the 7+ to stutter. Some people will, but the average person won't.

Actually, I got it! Iphone 7s will come out, but THEN THE APPLE PHONE comes out, which has all the hot new stuff, for a crap load more money!
 
I've had a bunch of Apple and Android phones. I recently got rid of a 6S and got a Pixel. If you have a closed mind and are blindly loyal to IOS, then stop reading now, but if you want a truly great phone AND a great experience, then give the Pixel a try. You might be surprised. If Apple comes out with a phone that is better than the Pixel, I'll give it a try, but I am not going back to a 4 year old design.
 
Literally the opposite of what jobs would have done. I hate this Apple.

Yet like many you will continue to purchase their products like they are going out of style.

This is what happens when you support a product blindly. They're the new Microsoft and basically don't need to even try.
[doublepost=1481659397][/doublepost]The good news is that the s model of any iphone are always astronomically better.
 
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