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iPhone 7's 'Best LCD Display Ever' Marks 'Major Upgrade Over iPhone 6'

Keirasplace said:
They're not crap, but they're not way above either; the current 7+ is arguable above it once all factors are taken into account. Depends more on how you use your phone.

The pentile OLED on their phone means the actual rez of their phone is barely above that of the 7+.

QHD displays in PHONE are currently fracking stupid cause they impact battery life and performance, so your argument is basically non sequitur.
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^This. Some people see a higher count on something and assume that it is better. It isn't about a marketing bullet point about pixel count.
 
KillaMac said:
[doublepost=1474412457][/doublepost]And you proved how stupid you are. The S2 has an LCD not AMOLED. It doesn't have a burn in issue.
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The Galaxy S2 phone i had back in 2011 had a 'Super AMOLED Plus' screen that used the RGB pixel arrangement / RGB matrix.

Facts: http://www.oled-info.com/super-amoled-plus

Maybe there was a cheaper model of the Galaxy S2 that had an LCD screen?
 
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Krevnik said:
The issue there is while you are technically correct, this doesn't always follow through all use cases. Again, think about hard edges where you have sharp contrasts. That's the worst case scenario for Pentile, which relies partly on the fact that in many cases, two pixels next to each other will have similar red/blue values. But I'll also point out that human eyesight isn't 50% lower in the blue/red. So you still need higher density to make up for what you give up. Your article even kinda points out the real reason this is done: the lifespan of the different OLEDs aren't equal, and blue/red require larger OLEDs to equal the light output of green. Last thing you want is the blue subpixels of your screen fading faster than the green and leaving you with a green-tinted screen after a couple years of use.

But here's the kicker, that worst case scenario for Pentile has a common use case: text. Something that's just as common as photography. And considering how much text I read on my devices over the course of a day, I've yet to really find a Pentile display that really makes those harder edges look right.

The main thing I'm trying to point here is that while I'm not knocking PenTile per se, but that you can't measure resolution 1:1 between a display with 3 sub-pixels to one with a Pentile layout. Especially when you start getting to the realm of high contrast (text). Is it a fair trade off to make? I think so for certain use cases, but in no way is it on the same footing of a non-Pentile display of the same resolution. That higher resolution Samsung is using is there to ensure they don't fall behind their LCD-using competitors. Especially when it comes to text.



Are you using Adaptive Display mode rather than Cinema/Basic/Photo? Adaptive is specifically oversaturated on Samsung phones (intentionally by Samsung to make the screen "pop", not to make content look like the creator intended). Cinema/Basic/Photo are not, and are a better way to compare. Making a display pop isn't quite the same as making it display content as it was intended.
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That's what I was trying to point out with my close up pics.
Your explanation on the subpixel and sharing "That's the worst case scenario for Pentile, which relies partly on the fact that in many cases, two pixels next to each other will have similar red/blue values." --- is immaculate. But I really don't think these OLED apologists really get it.
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Even when I illustrate it with the pic above... they deny seeing it or that it doesn't matter. Well, if "closeup" doesn't matter, then what's the point of a quadHD screen (diminishing returns)?

To all owners of a sAmoled screen: please just look at your google search bar: top and bottom edges are pink-purple and green due to the subpixel arrangement.
If you don't see it, then get glasses or a loupe. If you don't think it matters, then hIgher PPI doesn't matter either.
 
newby11 said:
To all owners of a sAmoled screen: please just look at your google search bar: top and bottom edges are pink-purple and green due to the subpixel arrangement.
If you don't see it, then get glasses or a loupe. If you don't think it matters, then hIgher PPI doesn't matter either.
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As this is from a person who uses Gear VR often where the screen on the phone is placed very close to the eyes where we actually can see the pixels in the Galaxy S6, S7 and Note models, then i can't seem to see any of those color issues you are talking about here.

I believe you have taken those pictures from a well abused demo model that is placed out in a phone shop that ofc will have all kinds of weird issues with the screen.
 
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NavyDude065 said:
I used a Galaxy S6 for a year and currently being using S7 for almost 6 months. Several of my friends have Galaxy smartphones with no issues also. I have seen Samsung smartphones that were on display at places like Best Buy that had burn in, because they were often on the same screen for 24 hours a day. But seriously, who leaves their smartphone on the same screen or leaves their screens on for 24 hours a day??? Not sure of your goal. The photo included looks like it's taken of a store demo phone.
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Lots of discussion online about iPhone screen Burn in. One is no better than the other, only that the AMOLED is better to look at in my opinion.
IPhone 6 burn in discussion

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6595680?start=0&tstart=0
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I use photo and sometimes Basic. I'll post a couple pictures later of my S7 beside a iPhone 6S, the Galaxy looks much better. Don't get me wrong, the iPhone has a nice screen and I hope the next iPhone will be even better. Some people have said their iPhone 7 screen looks worse than their 6S.
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Regarding burn in...
Yes, while I agree that no one uses the phone like a Demo model and has the screen on, looping the demo video over and over again on Max brightness, you have to consider and compare these topics with relativity.
Point is, Amoled burn in -relative- to LCD burn in is much more substantial... and has way more complaints from users due to the inherent amoled technology. Here's the thing, have you ever seen iPhones on DEMO with burn in? Then, have you seen Amoled Demo phones with burn in? Guaranteed, every S6/edge Demo has it: all of them (unless the screen is always turned off)... heck, I've already seen most of the S7/edge screens burn in. This is just embarrassing to see: - flagship $800 device on demo with screen burn in. Why don't Samsung just change those demos out??? Answer is because that is just the way they roll- don't fix/update/recall/help unless they HAVE to (usually due to publicized complaints, articles, lawsuits etc).

>>>For example<<< an analogy of relative durability, look at Samsung fingerprint readers-home buttons (includes s5,s6,s7,note7) uses PLASTIC for the fingerprint reader. Yes. Plastic.
What does Apple use for home buttons? IonX Glass or Sapphire crystal. Ok, sure, plastic is durable but RELATIVE to ionX glass or sapphire, it is WEEKER and less durable, just like LCD to amoled burn in.

Then I know some of you will say; I've been using my S6,s7 edge for months, year... and plastic button is perfect, works, no scratches. Ok, great, THEN would you be ok if Sansung or Apple uses Plastic for their screens too?

It is all relative. And once you understand that, your perspective will change.
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Tom-Helge said:
As this is from a person who uses Gear VR often where the screen on the phone is placed very close to the eyes where we actually can see the pixels in the Galaxy S6, S7 and Note models, then i can't seem to see any of those color issues you are talking about here.

I believe you have taken those pictures from a well abused demo model that is placed out in a phone shop that ofc will have all kinds of weird issues with the screen.
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Hi again Tom,

No, that pic was taken from a Note7 at local Costco before the recall happened.

That pixel hang issue is an inherent issue because of the Subpixel arrangement that Krevnik explained so perfectly in a few posts earlier.

But hey... you don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist... then you just go ahead and enjoy your Sansung product.
 
even if what you say is true about burn in. sometimes you have to go out on a limb and hope it doesn't happen to your display. in trade for the better overall picture you screen will be over the led screen. just like a car the bmw will most definetly break down before say a legendary toyota corolla but you take the bmw over the corolla because of how well the drive feels. same with screens. thiere is no doubt the AMOLED screen is better than LED.
 
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even if what you say is true about burn in. sometimes you have to go out on a limb and hope it doesn't happen to your display. in trade for the better overall picture you screen will be over the led screen. just like a car the bmw will most definetly break down before say a legendary toyota corolla but you take the bmw over the corolla because of how well the drive feels. same with screens. thiere is no doubt the AMOLED screen is better than LED.
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I agree
Totally agree with going out on a limb to get a better overall picture.
I'm saying that because of the Pixel-hang, misregistered mess (as seen in the google search bar pic above) is not contributing to the "better overall picture" argument
... not to mention the PWM flicker mess that is also inherent in amoled tech
 
newby11 said:
Regarding burn in...
Yes, while I agree that no one uses the phone like a Demo model and has the screen on, looping the demo video over and over again on Max brightness, you have to consider and compare these topics with relativity.
Point is, Amoled burn in -relative- to LCD burn in is much more substantial... and has way more complaints from users due to the inherent amoled technology. Here's the thing, have you ever seen iPhones on DEMO with burn in? Then, have you seen Amoled Demo phones with burn in? Guaranteed, every S6/edge Demo has it: all of them (unless the screen is always turned off)... heck, I've already seen most of the S7/edge screens burn in. This is just embarrassing to see: - flagship $800 device on demo with screen burn in. Why don't Samsung just change those demos out??? Answer is because that is just the way they roll- don't fix/update/recall/help unless they HAVE to (usually due to publicized complaints, articles, lawsuits etc).

>>>For example<<< an analogy of relative durability, look at Samsung fingerprint readers-home buttons (includes s5,s6,s7,note7) uses PLASTIC for the fingerprint reader. Yes. Plastic.
What does Apple use for home buttons? IonX Glass or Sapphire crystal. Ok, sure, plastic is durable but RELATIVE to ionX glass or sapphire, it is WEEKER and less durable, just like LCD to amoled burn in.

Then I know some of you will say; I've been using my S6,s7 edge for months, year... and plastic button is perfect, works, no scratches. Ok, great, THEN would you be ok if Sansung or Apple uses Plastic for their screens too?

It is all relative. And once you understand that, your perspective will change.
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Hi again Tom,

No, that pic was taken from a Note7 at local Costco before the recall happened.

That pixel hang issue is an inherent issue because of the Subpixel arrangement that Krevnik explained so perfectly in a few posts earlier.

But hey... you don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist... then you just go ahead and enjoy your Sansung product.
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Man, just drop it and get over it. I don't care what display demo smartphones have burn in and which ones don't. I don't use my Galaxy S7 as a display demo, but for phone calls, texting, videos, photos and so on. You won't get burn in on these Samsung AMOLED screen from normal usage. When I'm done with
newby11 said:
Regarding burn in...
Yes, while I agree that no one uses the phone like a Demo model and has the screen on, looping the demo video over and over again on Max brightness, you have to consider and compare these topics with relativity.
Point is, Amoled burn in -relative- to LCD burn in is much more substantial... and has way more complaints from users due to the inherent amoled technology. Here's the thing, have you ever seen iPhones on DEMO with burn in? Then, have you seen Amoled Demo phones with burn in? Guaranteed, every S6/edge Demo has it: all of them (unless the screen is always turned off)... heck, I've already seen most of the S7/edge screens burn in. This is just embarrassing to see: - flagship $800 device on demo with screen burn in. Why don't Samsung just change those demos out??? Answer is because that is just the way they roll- don't fix/update/recall/help unless they HAVE to (usually due to publicized complaints, articles, lawsuits etc).

>>>For example<<< an analogy of relative durability, look at Samsung fingerprint readers-home buttons (includes s5,s6,s7,note7) uses PLASTIC for the fingerprint reader. Yes. Plastic.
What does Apple use for home buttons? IonX Glass or Sapphire crystal. Ok, sure, plastic is durable but RELATIVE to ionX glass or sapphire, it is WEEKER and less durable, just like LCD to amoled burn in.

Then I know some of you will say; I've been using my S6,s7 edge for months, year... and plastic button is perfect, works, no scratches. Ok, great, THEN would you be ok if Sansung or Apple uses Plastic for their screens too?

It is all relative. And once you understand that, your perspective will change.
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Hi again Tom,

No, that pic was taken from a Note7 at local Costco before the recall happened.

That pixel hang issue is an inherent issue because of the Subpixel arrangement that Krevnik explained so perfectly in a few posts earlier.

But hey... you don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist... then you just go ahead and enjoy your Sansung product.
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I don't see what your trying to achieve here. I use my Galaxy S7 to read emails, text, phone calls and so on. Normal usage will not cause burn in and my S7 is used for what it's intended for, not to sit on my desk at full brightness 24 hours a day as display demo. So what you're trying to say about the burn in is a waste of everyone's time and absurd. Normal usage will not cause burn in. The screen on my S7 blows the 6S away.
 
Tom-Helge said:
As this is from a person who uses Gear VR often where the screen on the phone is placed very close to the eyes where we actually can see the pixels in the Galaxy S6, S7 and Note models, then i can't seem to see any of those color issues you are talking about here.

I believe you have taken those pictures from a well abused demo model that is placed out in a phone shop that ofc will have all kinds of weird issues with the screen.
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Yeah, I had the VR and sold it because it wasn't worth it due to the poor quality. It was a bit blurry and could never focus it 100%, and you saw all the pixels. Wasn't impressed.
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NavyDude065 said:
Man, just drop it and get over it. I don't care what display demo smartphones have burn in and which ones don't. I don't use my Galaxy S7 as a display demo, but for phone calls, texting, videos, photos and so on. You won't get burn in on these Samsung AMOLED screen from normal usage. When I'm done with


I don't see what your trying to achieve here. I use my Galaxy S7 to read emails, text, phone calls and so on. Normal usage will not cause burn in and my S7 is used for what it's intended for, not to sit on my desk at full brightness 24 hours a day as display demo. So what you're trying to say about the burn in is a waste of everyone's time and absurd. Normal usage will not cause burn in. The screen on my S7 blows the 6S away.
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I own both, and it doesn't blow the 6s plus away. They are very close actually with the Samsung having colors blown out.
 
NavyDude065 said:
Man, just drop it and get over it. I don't care what display demo smartphones have burn in and which ones don't. I don't use my Galaxy S7 as a display demo, but for phone calls, texting, videos, photos and so on. You won't get burn in on these Samsung AMOLED screen from normal usage. When I'm done with


I don't see what your trying to achieve here. I use my Galaxy S7 to read emails, text, phone calls and so on. Normal usage will not cause burn in and my S7 is used for what it's intended for, not to sit on my desk at full brightness 24 hours a day as display demo. So what you're trying to say about the burn in is a waste of everyone's time and absurd. Normal usage will not cause burn in. The screen on my S7 blows the 6S away.
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"Man, just drop it and get over it."

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Man, I don't care about your perfect S7 and what you read day in day out. So let's BOTH drop it and enjoy our phones... and if you stop coming here, I'll do the same, promise:)

"So what you're trying to say about the burn in is a waste of everyone's time and absurd."

Wasting everyone's time with facts?
You mean wasting your time, then feel free to put me on your ignore list. Simple fix, don't want to hear the truth, just plug it.
Just the internet.
Good day mate.
 
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KillaMac said:
I own both, and it doesn't blow the 6s plus away. They are very close actually with the Samsung having colors blown out.
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Turn off Adaptive display in the settings to get rid of the stupid over saturation that Samsung insists as "on" in the default settings.

the Samsung display since the S6 has been rated consistently one of the best display panels for colour accuracy. But Samsung in their "infinite wisdom" by default turns the software over saturation on .

And I will agree. I love the AMOLED display on the S6. its contrast and blacks are amazing and dwarf the iPhones. BUT, when you ultimately have them side by side, and do real comparisons, there's very little perceivable differences between the two displays (Other than the Samsung one being larger). BOth are absolutely stellar displays and while I would love Appel to use a OLED display too to match the black levels (I can still see a little blacklight on black backgrounds on ANY LCD), for just about every single other use case, there's no real perceivable difference.
 
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LordVic said:
And I will agree. I love the AMOLED display on the S6. its contrast and blacks are amazing and dwarf the iPhones. BUT, when you ultimately have them side by side, and do real comparisons, there's very little perceivable differences between the two displays (Other than the Samsung one being larger). BOth are absolutely stellar displays and while I would love Appel to use a OLED display too to match the black levels (I can still see a little blacklight on black backgrounds on ANY LCD), for just about every single other use case, there's no real perceivable difference.
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Yup, they are both good displays. Although I can see why LCD is still quite heavily used though. Since you are trading certain types of sharpness for those black levels with the way AMOLED is currently implemented. Is the difference big enough for the pissing contest in this thread when they are both calibrated correctly? Probably not.
 
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newby11 said:
"Man, just drop it and get over it."

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Man, I don't care about your perfect S7 and what you read day in day out. So let's BOTH drop it and enjoy our phones... and if you stop coming here, I'll do the same, promise:)

"So what you're trying to say about the burn in is a waste of everyone's time and absurd."

Wasting everyone's time with facts?
You mean wasting your time, then feel free to put me on your ignore list. Simple fix, don't want to hear the truth, just plug it.
Just the internet.
Good day mate.
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Cool, no hard feelings bud. You enjoy your phone and I enjoy mine and at the end of the day, it's only a phone. There's more important things in our lives to discuss and brag about. I enjoy my S7 for the S6 had a crappie battery life. I was going to go back to iPhone but just got the S7 back in April. I'll wait until next year's iPhone release for it will be better than the iPhone 7. Next year's model will look like the 7 which has a body design like the 6 and 6S. Not sure what changes or new features they'll have in next year's model. They must be running out of ideas, but Apple always surprised. 3D Touch on the 6S was a cool feature. A really good and advanced optical zoom and DOF camera on both units would be great. It was great chatting with ya and take care. :)
 
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Are these guys for real? everybody i know who owns a 7 plus is complaining about the crappy dull yellowish screen.
It is terrible compared to my 6s plus. No contrast, not enough brightness and yellowish greys.
There are dozens of websites explaining how to calibrate the screen and with some solutions for the yellow cast but the screen just isn't bright enough.
I am really pissed off that again we are getting screwed with lies of screen brightness and color accuracy... :mad:
 
rumor has it gs8 is getting 4k screen with 805ppi and arm g71 GPU that is 1.8 times as powerful as the gs7 at same frequency and power draw

Samsung is pushing it's 4k vr next year!
 
ppdix said:
Are these guys for real? everybody i know who owns a 7 plus is complaining about the crappy dull yellowish screen.
It is terrible compared to my 6s plus. No contrast, not enough brightness and yellowish greys.
There are dozens of websites explaining how to calibrate the screen and with some solutions for the yellow cast but the screen just isn't bright enough.
I am really pissed off that again we are getting screwed with lies of screen brightness and color accuracy... :mad:
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Turn auto bright to on, set bright highest level and reset phone settings. That's what one article said that reported highest brightness ratings using light detector and not subjective eyes. Apparently to get brightest you need to have auto bright on and be in very bright lighting or outdoors in sun. As this really sucks the battery down.

As for color of screen, in iOS 10 in accessibility you can adjust it to your liking.cooler, warmer whatever.
[doublepost=1474895066][/doublepost]Guess I will go over to the Samsung forums and praise how great my iPhone is. That IS how this works right?
Internet is strange place, go to iPhone forums to read about Samsung and go to Samsung forums to read about iPhones.
 
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