iPhone 8 and 8 Plus Have Smaller Batteries Than iPhone 7 Models, But Similar Battery Life

[laz232]

I hate it when I see people complain about the batteries being smaller. If Apple can throw R&D money at getting the same battery life with smaller batteries they should. Having a smaller battery means smaller charge times, but also means you’ll charge it less which has a massive affect on the environment and energy usage over millions of iPhone users.

That is incorrect. Better phone efficiency makes a difference, smaller batteries do not*

Obligatory water analogy.

Say you need 10l of water per day and you have a 100ml iPhone 7 cup and a 90ml iPhone 8 cup, then you either need to refill the 100ml cup 10/0.1 = 100 times (iphone 7) or 10/0.09 = 111 times (iPhone 8). It's still the same total amount of water (energy).

Oh, and assuming a daily charge capacity difference of 200mAh * 365days per year = 0.073kWh/year (== powering a lightbulb for 1 hour / year). Not including charger inefficiency (say 15%), but as I explained above the issue you have described makes no sense anyway.

*The only environmental effect that that is correlated with less capacity, assuming the same battery technology is less capacity -> less materials (-> cost saving, which is why Apple does it)

 

[I7guy]

"Sold separately", two words that are rediculous to include when paying $999 for ANYTHING. I'm sorry but screw you apple on this one.

Really? I paid thousands for my Samsung tv and still had to buy the sound bar.

 

[hagar]

Why Apple decided years ago battery life didn't need any improvements anymore is beyond me. Nobody I know is happy with current battery life.

I don't play games, only use my phone for light browsing, pics and some apps but I rarely get to the end of the day if I don't recharge.

 

[pat500000]

And people making fun of Samsung note 8 with 3300mah

 

[dannyyankou]

At least it’s quick-charge capable*


*$50 adapter and $35 cable sold separately

 

[Scottsoapbox]

Battery is smaller because the glass back made the iPhone 8/8+ heavier. Check the specs both are half oz heavier than the 7/7+ even with the smaller battery.

 

[blackcrayon]

Or I dunno, maybe Apple could keep the same size battery in their stale form factor and streamline the efficiency too, increasing battery life.

Me and my crazy talk..

Or I don't know, I doubt they are sourcing different, smaller batteries because "they feel like it". If they're adding more features, which the iPhone 8 has, something has to give. Looks like they chose the tradeoff that didn't negatively affect battery life while putting in new higher transitor processors and cameras and that's why it was chosen.

 

[Patrick P]

Oh I remember my iPad Mini 4 having the same great battery life as my older iPad Mini with a smaller battery and more efficiency. But it hasn’t.

 

[blackcrayon]

LET'S GET UP IN ARMS BECAUSE BATTERY LIFE IS UNCHANGED AS IS USER EXPERIENCE!!

Why get up in arms for a good thing?

 

[Scottsoapbox]

I hate it when I see people complain about the batteries being smaller. If Apple can throw R&D money at getting the same battery life with smaller batteries they should. Having a smaller battery means smaller charge times, but also means you’ll charge it less which has a massive affect on the environment and energy usage over millions of iPhone users.

Incorrect. That's like saying cars would use less gas if you made the gas tank smaller.

The amount charging is related to the energy being used by not stored in the iPhone.

 

[PizzaBoxStyle]

I hate it when I see people complain about the batteries being smaller. If Apple can throw R&D money at getting the same battery life with smaller batteries they should. Having a smaller battery means smaller charge times, but also means you’ll charge it less which has a massive affect on the environment and energy usage over millions of iPhone users.

Because my 6S has like half-day battery life, I keep it plugged in like 18/24 hours every day.

If what you say is true, I must be contributing a lot of harm to the environment because of the battery in my phone. The small battery has had the opposite effect on my charging behavior.

 

[IG88]

LET'S GET UP IN ARMS BECAUSE BATTERY LIFE IS UNCHANGED AS IS USER EXPERIENCE!!

You're right. Everyone should be praising Apple for both making the phone thicker AND making the battery smaller. Such courage.

 

[Uaaerospace2]

Nobody I know is happy with current battery life.

You need some friends. Hi, my name is Josh and I'm happy with my battery life in my 3 year old iPhone 6. I get 2-3 days and I use it for quite a bit for email, browsing, streaming audio, and occasional gaming.

What are all of you folks doing with your phones that kills the battery in less than 1 day? I have a few apps that don't turn the screen off when they should (for example, the MLB app will keep the screen on while streaming audio for a 3 hour game if I don't turn it off manually) and that will kill the battery, but otherwise I'm more than happy.

 

[MarkMoseley1]

Reading this news today doesn't help me make a decision on what is going to replace my iPhone 6 Plus.

 

[Silver Idaten]

This is really annoying. I'm trying to decide what to upgrade my 6S too, the 7+ or 8+, and this crap isn't helping.

 

[a104375]

You need some friends. Hi, my name is Josh and I'm happy with my battery life in my 3 year old iPhone 6. I get 2-3 days and I use it for quite a bit for email, browsing, streaming audio, and occasional gaming.

What are all of you folks doing with your phones that kills the battery in less than 1 day? I have a few apps that don't turn the screen off when they should (for example, the MLB app will keep the screen on while streaming audio for a 3 hour game if I don't turn it off manually) and that will kill the battery, but otherwise I'm more than happy.

Hi Josh, Sorry to have to be the one to tell you but, the iPhone 6S has a smaller battery than the iPhone 6 and most definitely has worse battery life as a result.

 

[Amazing Iceman]

A bigger battery providing more runtime would have been better.
The smaller battery advantage is that it fully charges much sooner.

 

[MrGuder]

Isn't it funny how the battery is always the item that takes a hit.

 

[iPhonefan200]

Really got me anxious about the Iphone X battery. I’m hoping to see around 2800 to 3300mah in it giving what it has to power. Battery has always been a thing for me and if the X actually has a lower mah than my iPhone 7 Plus i wont upgrade

My iPhone 7 Plus gets me around 15 to 18 hours on 70% brightness and I’m not paying £999 and loosing power

 

[Oblivious.Robot]

You need some friends. Hi, my name is Josh and I'm happy with my battery life in my 3 year old iPhone 6. I get 2-3 days and I use it for quite a bit for email, browsing, streaming audio, and occasional gaming.

What are all of you folks doing with your phones that kills the battery in less than 1 day? I have a few apps that don't turn the screen off when they should (for example, the MLB app will keep the screen on while streaming audio for a 3 hour game if I don't turn it off manually) and that will kill the battery, but otherwise I'm more than happy.

Could you post some battery usage screen caps off it? You’re either a very very light user, or this is total b.s

Considering that even I have an iPhone 6, 3 years old now which has lost 15% battery cycle which is still great for a device used in entirety of those years, but even with my own considerate usage I have never been able to top past 12 hours on year 1, 10 or so year 2, and lesser now.

I’m really sorry if I’m coming off as arrogant, I don’t mean too but 2-3 days of usage on 6 is unbelievable.. unless you’re talking about plus model?

 

[iPhonefan200]

Could you post some battery usage screen caps off it? You’re either a very very light user, or this is total b.s

Considering that even I have an iPhone 6, 3 years old now which has lost 15% battery cycle which is still great for a device used in entirety of those years, but even with my own considerate usage I have never been able to top past 12 hours on year 1, 10 or so year 2, and lesser now.

I’m really sorry if I’m coming off as arrogant, I don’t mean too but 2-3 days of usage on 6 is unbelievable.. unless you’re talking about plus model?

There’s actually so many things you can do. For example apps that offer location service but actually provide no benefit to you just make sure you turn that apps access off in settings. Also do things like see what apps use most of your bat and then investigate why and turn off features that you don’t bother with to reduce it. I often find friends both across android and iPhone with battery issues are because they don’t optimise it. Even with all this i get around 15 to 18 hours on a 7 plus so 2 3 days I’m also a little skeptic

 

[Oblivious.Robot]

There’s actually so many things you can do. For example apps that offer location service but actually provide no benefit to you just make sure you turn that apps access off in settings. Also do things like see what apps use most of your bat and then investigate why and turn off features that you don’t bother with to reduce it. I often find friends both across android and iPhone with battery issues are because they don’t optimise it

That’s the thing, I do all off that.
I’m not a developer, but I am a geek and hence love being on forums and learning new things on my own, the problem is even after considerate usage I have never made last 12 of on screen time, unless I really turn off everything that is including keeping it in airplane mode but if I have to do all of that then what’s the point of owning a device that has to turn everything down.

Now again, I’m perfectly happy with my 6 and only upgrading soon as am about to fill up on 64Gb, but 2-3 days of battery life, that just ticked me off as a lie. Unless it’s turned off from time to time or is a Plus model with higher battery.

Cheer.

 

[mindsaspire]

I was set on upgrading my iPhone 6 to the 8, but now I'm reconsidering just going for the 7. Either phone will be much faster than my current 6, whose main issue is not speed but battery life after 3 years of battery degradation. I'm also unsure about the glass back. Like how "lasts about the same" is marketing speak for the 8's battery lasting less than the 7's battery, I'm thinking that "most durable glass ever" means not as durable as the aluminum back of the iPhone 7. Also, the iPhone 7 with 128 GB of storage is actually less expensive than the iPhone 8 with 64 GB.

 

[PizzaBoxStyle]

Reading this news today doesn't help me make a decision on what is going to replace my iPhone 6 Plus.

I haven't been able to decide either. And as of a few hours ago, I decided that perhaps nothing was going to replace my aged 6S.

The 8 seems so rewarmed to me, and the price doesn't reflect that. And the X has too many trade offs for what they are asking on it.

I was really looking forward to upgrading this year, but... unless my 6S breaks OR I get some kind of a sweet deal/sale, I think I'm going to scrub my purchase plans entirely.

 

[iPhonefan200]

That’s the thing, I do all off that.
I’m not a developer, but I am a geek and hence love being on forums and learning new things on my own, the problem is even after considerate usage I have never made last 12 of on screen time, unless I really turn off everything that is including keeping it in airplane mode but if I have to do all of that then what’s the point of owning a device that has to turn everything down.

Now again, I’m perfectly happy with my 6 and only upgrading soon as am about to fill up on 64Gb, but 2-3 days of battery life, that just ticked me off as a lie. Unless it’s turned off from time to time or is a Plus model with higher battery.

Cheer.

Yeah before 7 plus I was on 6 and i could get around 11 hours a day on it, being in 6th form at the time that would be on and off screen time but now I’m using 7 a lot with uni studies and so on and i do get good day use out of it. It’s a shame this announcement because i do want to get iPhone X and its made be anxious to see what that’s been packed with