iPhone 8 and iPhone X Don't Support T-Mobile's Upcoming 600 MHz LTE Network

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    Apple's iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, and iPhone X are not compatible with LTE Band 71, aka T-Mobile's new 600 MHz spectrum the company plans on rolling out in the United States as soon as this year.

    All new iPhone models in the United States support FDD-LTE Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, and 66, and TD-LTE bands 4, 38, 39, 40, and 41, according to the Tech Specs page for the devices.

    Support for additional bands can't be added retroactively, so Apple's devices will not work with LTE Band 71 until support is added to future iPhones.

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    T-Mobile purchased the 600 MHz spectrum in an FCC auction in April of 2017. Shortly after, T-Mobile announced plans to use the spectrum to deliver 5G coverage starting in 2019, but later said it would use the spectrum to improve its network in rural America starting this year.

    Unfortunately, by the time T-Mobile purchased the spectrum and announced plans for rapid implementation, the LTE chips and the hardware for the iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, and iPhone X were likely already secured, giving Apple no time to build in support for a newly announced LTE band.

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    T-Mobile in August activated the first 600 MHz LTE site in Cheyenne, Wyoming and has said it will deploy the spectrum at a "record-shattering pace" with plans to roll out 600 MHz sites in Wyoming, Northwest Oregon, West Texas, Southwest Kansas, the Oklahoma panhandle, Western North Dakota, Maine, Coastal North Carolina, Central Pennsylvania, Central Virginia, and Eastern Washington, but whether T-Mobile will hit that goal and get 600 MHz support in those locations by the end of 2017 remains to be seen.

    As Peter Cohen points out, deploying the 600 MHz network is a complicated, time-consuming process that will span several years, so most iPhone 8, 8 Plus, and X users won't be heavily affected by the lack of support for the new LTE band at this time.
    T-Mobile says Band 71 adds increased building penetration and covers greater distances. When used in metro areas, it improves in-building coverage, and in rural areas, it improves the company's LTE footprint.

    There are no existing devices that support T-Mobile's new spectrum at this time. Like Apple's newest devices, for example, Samsung's Galaxy S8 and new Galaxy Note 8 do not offer support. T-Mobile has said that LG and Samsung will launch devices compatible with the spectrum by the end of the year, and LG's upcoming LG V30 will be one of the first devices to support it.

    Article Link: iPhone 8 and iPhone X Don't Support T-Mobile's Upcoming 600 MHz LTE Network
     
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    This is not surprising. It took Apple years to support Band 12. I don't even have a high level of confidence that they'll support Band 71 in 2018.
     
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    If I remember correctly, this isn't the first time that T-mobile has incompatible/unsupported network. I believe this was the reason why I went to ATT in the first place.

    Edit: excuse me..i mean't to say "moved to att."

    https://www.iosnoops.com/2011/04/24/iphone-4-compatible-with-t-mobile-in-the-works/
    as an example of when T-mobile was working on getting iphone to work at the time when it was popular..iphone 4.
     
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    They have to make a reason for you to upgrade in 2018.
     
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    So your only choice for Band 71 support right now is the LG V30.
    I bet John is real happy about that. /s
     
  7. Bearxor macrumors 6502a

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    If I had ordered a new phone, this would be cause for me to immediately cancel the order.

    This is very short-sighted by Apple. I understand that TMo didn't win the spectrum until earlier this year but the fact was that SOMEONE was going to win the auctions and it was going to be rolled out. It should have been built in.

    I suspect we're going to get a slight revision to the 8/8+/X early next year that adds that band.
     
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    Don't be upset about this everyone. The key to a better network is NOT faster bands or "5G"...

    We need MORE cell towers with BETTER antennas in those towers.

    Once the infrastructure is in place (like in T-Mobile's case), THEN we can talk about 5G.

    But seriously people, we don't even have true 4G support in most places. (LTE is not 4G).
     
  9. hashholly macrumors 6502

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    Yep, thats why T-mobile is doing that free upgrade to the next iPhone which will be 600 mhz compatible with 12 months worth of payments on their EIP program of the 8 or X.
     
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    Looks like it won't impact me because I live near civilization.

    Phew!
     
  11. mnsportsgeek macrumors 65816

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    The band wasn't even finalized till a couple of months ago. There was no way this was making it in the 2017 iPhones.
     
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    Good thing mobile phone is a standardized technology. Otherwise there would be multiple versions of the iPhone.
     
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    This is nothing to do with 5G. Band 71 is the new 600MHz band that T-Mobile won a lot of nationwide spectrum with. Once this is built out, their speeds and coverage will increase significantly.
     
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    It's great that you arn't impacted, but what about the poor souls who live near one of the US's uncivilized cities?
     
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    Anyone working in mobile phone development facepalms heavily whenever that kind of conspiracy nonsense is spread by people who think that you just need to wave a magic wand to implement a major feature in a new product and that the lack of such a feature implies that it is being purposefully withheld.
     
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    Too early days to be bothered with this. Will take a year or two for Carriers to get prepared.
     
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    Technically T-mobile knew about this and stated as such. They mentioned that by years end there would be 2 phones that are compatible one by Samsung and one by LG. So this isn't a surprise.
     
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    "T-Mobile says Band 71 adds increased building penetration and covers greater distances."

    Hmmmmmm...anyone qualified to weigh in on the health implications of this? Nikola Tesla, perhaps?
     
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    Article Link: iPhone 8 and iPhone X Don't Support T-Mobile's Upcoming 600 MHz LTE Network[/QUOTE]
    Perhaps they should offer to climb a pole and install the equipment. For some reason, Peter Cohen thinks "there simply aren't enough people in the industry who can climb the towers, install the new hardware, test it and get it working for them."
     
  22. Fall Under Cerulean Kites macrumors 6502

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    At least T-Mobile won’t have to worry about tower congestion.
     
  23. 4jasontv macrumors 65816

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    Corect me if I am wrong, but I don't think apple builds the modems. I don't think anyone supports it yet.
     
  24. WannaGoMac macrumors 68000

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    Great, it's iphone 6/6p all over again.
     
  25. Sedulous macrumors 68020

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    Should be a great frequency for signal reception... but not that great for data speed.

    It isn't like iPhone 8/X cannot use existing bands anyway.
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    Nobody knew who was going to win spectrum OR what they were going to do with it.
     

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