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iPhone 8 and iPhone X Don't Support T-Mobile's Upcoming 600 MHz LTE Network
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X20 is scheduled for launch firts half of 2018, so that can be counted out as a viable option for 2017. X16 was announced in 2016 and can be considered as "old" tech by our modern standards. Not much to choose from.
I don't get why this is even an article anywhere because the Note 8 doesn't support it either but no one said anything about that.
It's not a big deal because it will be a few years before most people can even use band 71.
The new iPhone 8 and X do have band 66 and no one is talking about that and its more important right now because that will cover more carriers. T-Mobile, AT&T and Verizon I believe. AT&T spent $18 billion on band 66.
It's not a big deal because it will be a few years before most people can even use band 71.
The new iPhone 8 and X do have band 66 and no one is talking about that and its more important right now because that will cover more carriers. T-Mobile, AT&T and Verizon I believe. AT&T spent $18 billion on band 66.
Even if the 8/X has it, the spectrum won't roll out to where I live until 2019. I think the Midwest is among the first to get it. I rarely travel, it's a non issue for me whether I get the 8/X. I'm sure I'll be getting a new phone when it's 2019.
For those who have T-mobile or interested in transferring to T-mobile, check out when and where they plan to roll out this spectrum in the next 3 years. It will help you with your decision.
For those who have T-mobile or interested in transferring to T-mobile, check out when and where they plan to roll out this spectrum in the next 3 years. It will help you with your decision.
Lots of people up in arms in here. Seems they didn't bother reading this part...
Apple isn't the only one. And it's T-Mobile so it'll be years before they get around to rolling it out anyways.
Apple isn't the only one. And it's T-Mobile so it'll be years before they get around to rolling it out anyways.
Exactly, they should have postponed the rollout of the new iPhones by six months to include this new band.
X16 is hardly "old tech" when modems are typically on a 2-3 year cycle.X20 is scheduled for launch firts half of 2018, so that can be counted out as a viable option for 2017. X16 was announced in 2016 and can be considered as "old" tech by our modern standards. Not much to choose from.
It's currently the only modem than can support Band 71.
It's included Snapdragon versions of the S8, S8+, and Note 8, but not the Exynos versions.
All are capable of Band 71, but Samsung chose not to implement it.
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Yes it does... that's why I bought the Note 8 instead.Shame the screen sucks
Actually want to one-up this question. The iPhone 7 has the Verizon\Sprint model that will also work on TMO and ATT. But the TMO \ ATT model will not work on Verizon\Sprint. Is the iPhone 8 \ X back to the way the 6s was, where you can use any phone on any network?
Nobody seems to know if the new iPhones use the same modem as the 7 or if it’s al least the 600Mbps one from Intel (not as good as the gigabit one, but it’s something).
Important to know because that one supports 4x4MIMO and 256QAM, which are features that T-Mobile turned-on last year to increase speed.
Important to know because that one supports 4x4MIMO and 256QAM, which are features that T-Mobile turned-on last year to increase speed.
One of the reasons I decided to pull the trigger on a 6S upgrade, once I'd decided the 6 Plus was larger than I'd like, was the addition of Band 12 (that, and the 2GB of RAM the 6S provided).
It looks like the spectrum covered hasn't changed since then.
It looks like the spectrum covered hasn't changed since then.
While in principle possible, there is no precedent for this, except for the Verizon iPhone. And adding Verizon back then was a huge deal whereas adding support for a band that won't see much rollout for a few years has much less of an impact.
Not really a deal breaker as b71 is so new that it’s hardly deployed anywhere. I understand the future proof argument, but the b71 roll out plan takes place over several years, which may be when people who upgrade now might be looking to upgrade again.
That's a short-sighted comment. If no one ever came out with new technology, where would we be? Any new technology will be incompatible/unsupported until there is hardware to support it. Remember 5Ghz band WIFI?
TMobile's network continues to operate just like it always has, so not sure what AT&T has over TMobile in that respect...maybe you can clarify for us?
This is Macrumors. What do you expect? haha
And ignore those trolls, they boycott Apple for whatever reason they can find.
Nope, nor do their modems support gigabit LTE. For me, these are starting to matter. My 7 Plus hardly gets a signal on T-Mobile. It's slow. My 6s works better but oddly my old Note 3 works even more so. Frustrating.
this is not an issue at all.
people getting upset about this simply want to.
people getting upset about this simply want to.
Yeah let's **** on Apple of not supporting a band that probably won't be up and running for another year or more.
I added the emphasis above. I don't think Apple's going to do that. They certainly didn't do it a few years ago when AT&T was rolling out band 30.
If they did release a revised iPhone 8/X in a few months, think about how many pissed off T-Mobile there would be unless T-Mobile or Apple lets them trade in the pre-band 71 device for the device that supports band 71. I don't think either company is going to offer that kind of trade -- at least not on a wide scale. Maybe if you'd tweet Jon Legere, he'd hook you up, though.
Cell phones do not transmit enough power to harm you unless you literally taped it to your head in it's highest power output mode for several hours a day. When your signal is decent, it uses far less power and is not a danger at all.
The towers themselves emit around 20 Watts out of the antenna, but by the time that signal gets to the ground, it's only slightly stronger than the phone itself. It will be interesting to see if antennas can be designed in to the (relatively) small phones we have today (as opposed to 25 years ago) at 600 MHz.
With equal power output, you need twice the antenna size at 600 MHz as you do at 1.2 GHz PCS bands. It may be that Apple just doesn't want to deal with that right now.
In fact, it may be that Samsung and LG are using second level phones to do it and not worry with it on their current flagships either. That would be good to know...