iPhone 8 Exclusive: Apple's New Design 'Confirmed'

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This Is primarily how I think the new iPhone will look. I think the cut out at the top of the display is highly likely and a vertical camera is almost a guarantee at this point.

The Most interesting thing I find about this new iPhone is the elongated power button. If Apple was able to integrate touch ID into the power button, this will be a nice workaround until they can eventually (If ever) be embed the Home button under the display. I think it's safe to say the Home button will not be on the back of the iPhone.
 
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I always wonder what Ming-Chi Kuo's reaction to these articles would be like.

"Sigh, I told everyone the display resolution half a year ago. And I confirmed the notch display design two weeks ago. And yes, it will have 3 GB of RAM."
 
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The elongated power button is definitely the wild card here. Freaking September needs to hurry and get here already.
 
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The elongated power button is definitely the wild card here. Freaking September needs to hurry and get here already.
That definitely has my interest piqued. And leave it to Apple for throwing everybody for a loop for what we were expecting, only find out something totally different occurred.
 
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This Is primarily how I think the new iPhone will look. I think the cut out at the top of the display is highly likely and a vertical camera is almost a guarantee at this point.

The Most interesting thing I find about this new iPhone is the elongated power button. If Apple was able to integrate touch ID into the power button, this will be a nice workaround until they can eventually (If ever) be embed the Home button under the display. I think it's safe to say the Home button will not be on the back of the iPhone.
That would be categorically awful design and business practice. To move Touch ID at all, let alone put it on the power button and then move it back to the front later on. Not a chance Apple would do that.

The power button could be elongated with multiple contact points, and a groove in the middle like volume buttons of the past. It would be a rocker button essentially, and obviously both purposes are intrinsically tied. So you have power on top and a new purpose on the bottom which may be a replacement, in part, for accessibility users when needed. Remember, accessibility is highly important to Apple, and removing the indentation for the Home Button on the face of the device, eliminates the ability for handicapped to detect the button by their sense of touch.

I do not believe Touch ID will be anywhere but on the bottom face of the device. I believe the elongated power button has a new purpose for the vast majority of users and also could act as a Home Button functionality replacement when handicapped go into accessibility and set it as such. It's primary function is hard to guess at.
 
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That would be categorically awful design and business practice. To move Touch ID at all, let alone put it on the power button and then move it back to the front later on. Not a chance Apple would do that.
I agree very much on this. We can also use the same logic for the rumors that there won't be a touch ID. Removing Touch ID and adding it back a year later = awful business practice
 
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I’ve always envisaged Phil standing on stage laughing, and saying “You didn’t really think we were going to put Touch ID on the back did you!?”
 
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I think the reason that the camera is now vertical is because the cameras and sensors on the front will take up too much space for the back camera to be in the same place in the body. I'm not buying the "better for augmented/virtual reality" reasoning. The iPhone 7 Plus camera works just as well in landscape as in portrait, there should be no difference in how the camera is oriented. I'm really curious why that rumour was started.
 
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The longer power button enables left handed users to reach the power button more easily. Even the Watch has a left handed mode.

Given the iPhone X uses a stacked logic board, it's no surprise Apple found more room in the chassis for a longer button.

What we don't know is if they found room for two speakers in the bottom.
 
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I think the reason that the camera is now vertical is because the cameras and sensors on the front will take up too much space for the back camera to be in the same place in the body. I'm not buying the "better for augmented/virtual reality" reasoning. The iPhone 7 Plus camera works just as well in landscape as in portrait, there should be no difference in how the camera is oriented. I'm really curious why that rumour was started.
You are correct. You actually think, they do not.
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I would hope the top has a slight bezel for the proximity and camera cutout to not be so obvious when the screen is on.
The screen on both sides will of course be black at all times. Inside those off pixels will be dynamically lit areas for contextual info/buttons. It's simple to envision.
 
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That would be categorically awful design and business practice. To move Touch ID at all, let alone put it on the power button and then move it back to the front later on. Not a chance Apple would do that.

I do not believe Touch ID will be anywhere but on the bottom face of the device. I believe the elongated power button has a new purpose for the vast majority of users and also could act as a Home Button functionality replacement when handicapped go into accessibility and set it as such. It's primary function is hard to guess at.
Aside from the questionable Forbes render, I question Apples "Businesses practices" over the years with more recent products. I think it's subjective what's considered a business practice or more so, convenient for the consumer. Its not really Apple's for-sight meeting the expectations of what the consumers wants out of device for customization or removal of features/hardware on the iPhone. But more importantly, it's what's make the iPhone better, even if some don't agree.

But Apple is also not afraid to take counter measures with products that might draw back lash, but it doesn't make them any less of a
Company that makes excellent
products and service. For Apple to remap the home button to one side iPhone and then back under the display, seems unlikely, but then again if it were ever to happen, then It woud indicate the difficulty they experienced integrating the home button with the OLED display.

That said, if Apple has everything configured with the Home Button, I (And a strong majority) believe it will be embedded under the display seems the most logical, according To a Foxconn insider reported to Reddit before WWDC (Has been accurate in the past) reported in early June, the home button will be embedded under the display.

All together, Most of these recent rumors have created a lot of controversy over something Apple already has started production on, even if there was a possible delay, which I doubt there will be.
 
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The longer power button enables left handed users to reach the power button more easily. Even the Watch has a left handed mode.

Given the iPhone X uses a stacked logic board, it's no surprise Apple found more room in the chassis for a longer button.

What we don't know is if they found room for two speakers in the bottom.
Two speakers in the bottom does virtually nothing and it would not be something Apple elected to do UNLESS the right speaker is now shrunk down extremely small and they placed a second speaker of equal power on the opposite side of it. See, previously if the right speaker was as it is now, and you added a left speaker, the left speaker would be physically far less powerful and therefore you are left with an uneven decibel output. Of course two speakers at the bottom does not give stereo sound because they are too close to each other to differentiate the sound, but I believe Apple may opt to place a small speaker on the left and on the right now, as opposed to the single large speaker on the right. This would of course be for internal engineering reasons, giving far more space on the right side, and hopefully an equal quality and decibel output from the two smaller speakers combining to equate to that of the single larger speaker.

I believe this could be so strictly from reasoning from rumored features and schematic leaks. A rumored inclusion is a second cell battery on the right side of the device, under the logic board. Presently the speaker on the bottom right of the device takes absolutely enormous space on the right side, and sits clear up to the logic board. If the second battery is so, then that right speaker is in the way, and therefore it must be rethought.

Here is a schematic of internals that leaked, and while it may be highly inaccurate, it certainly makes sense, logically.
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Aside from the questionable Forbes render, I question Apples "Businesses practices" over the years with more recent products. I think it's subjective what's considered a business practice or more so, convenient for the consumer. Its not really Apple's for-sight meeting the expectations of what the consumers wants out of device for customization or removal of features/hardware on the iPhone. But more importantly, it's what's make the iPhone better, even if some don't agree.

But Apple is also not afraid to take counter measures with products that might draw back lash, but it doesn't make them any less of a
Company that makes excellent
products and service. For Apple to remap the home button to one side iPhone and then back under the display, seems unlikely, but then again if it were ever to happen, then It woud indicate the difficulty they experienced integrating the home button with the OLED display.

That said, if Apple has everything configured with the Home Button, I (And a strong majority) believe it will be embedded under the display seems the most logical, according To a Foxconn insider reported to Reddit before WWDC (Has been accurate in the past) reported in early June, the home button will be embedded under the display.

All together, Most of these recent rumors have created a lot of controversy over something Apple already has started production on, even if there was a possible delay, which I doubt there will be.
What we know about Apple is that they will take their time to get something right. If Apple couldn't put the Home Button and Touch ID under the front bottom of the display, then they would wait until they could.
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If this is true, I will say no yet again.

Fugly camera bump. Not why I pay hundreds of dollars for a phone. Looks like a part you'd find in an old Erector set.

That won't be how it will look exactly, but there certainly will be a camera protrusion. Why? Because having a thinner device is worth compromising and pushing the camera out of the case.
 

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What we know about Apple is that they will take their time to get something right. If Apple couldn't put the Home Button and Touch ID under the front bottom of the display, then they would wait until they could.
Absolutely agree. They won't short change themselves to sacrifice quality with any of their products, let alone the iPhone. There's a reason they make the best products for the consumer and being a highly successful company as they currently are. I have no issue paying top dollar for their products which incorporates quality and customer service to stand behind the product.
 
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If this is true, I will say no yet again.

Fugly camera bump. Not why I pay hundreds of dollars for a phone. Looks like a part you'd find in an old Erector set.

Why does it bother you do much? It has no bearing on the functionality of the phone and it's not like you see it whilst using it. Nothing will ever be perfect and tick everyone's boxes.

Seems strange to miss out on what will surely be a great device because of something so trivial.
 
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That won't be how it will look exactly, but there certainly will be a camera protrusion. Why? Because having a thinner device is worth compromising and pushing the camera out of the case.
Not for me.

There are other manufacturers that can make a camera flush with the rear housing. I don't need a bazillion pixel camera that will auto correct, color correct, name, file and distribute my photos for me. And before anyone suggests cases as a means to hide the bump, I don't use them so that's not a suggestion I will heed.

No offense…I just prefer the camera being flush.
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Why does it bother you do much? It has no bearing on the functionality of the phone and it's not like you see it whilst using it. Nothing will ever be perfect and tick everyone's boxes.

Seems strange to miss out on what will surely be a great device because of something so trivial.
It bothers me so much because I spend 2.5 to 3.5 years with my devices before I replace them. Since I have them for so long I want to like how they look, not hate them by the time I'm done with them as a primary device.

The device already does what I need it to do. Whether the bump affects performance or not doesn't matter to me. I value how the device looks.

Since I know the phone will already do what I use it for (I am not a photographer, 99 percent of my pictures are things on shelves at Walmart so my wife can decide on what she wants) my focus is on looks and not features or performance.

Just my preference is all and just expressing that.
 
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Not for me.

There are other manufacturers that can make a camera flush with the rear housing. I don't need a bazillion pixel camera that will auto correct, color correct, name, file and distribute my photos for me. And before anyone suggests cases as a means to hide the bump, I don't use them so that's not a suggestion I will heed.

No offense…I just prefer the camera being flush.
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It bothers me so much because I spend 2.5 to 3.5 years with my devices before I replace them. Since I have them for so long I want to like how they look, not hate them by the time I'm done with them as a primary device.

The device already does what I need it to do. Whether the bump affects performance or not doesn't matter to me. I value how the device looks.

Since I know the phone will already do what I use it for (I am not a photographer, 99 percent of my pictures are things on shelves at Walmart so my wife can decide on what she wants) my focus is on looks and not features or performance.

Just my preference is all and just expressing that.
The only devices that have no camera bump are either bad or extremely thick. The Galaxy S8 is extremely thick and still has a small bump. What you don't realize is that having a thicker device is far far worse than a camera protrusion. You don't think about it and can't comprehend it because you don't have that thicker device to compare it with in your hand. Apple has those thicker devices because they made prototypes and elected to make the camera protrude so the experience of holding the device is profoundly better.
 
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The only devices that have no camera bump are either bad or extremely thick. The Galaxy S8 is extremely thick and still has a small bump. What you don't realize is that having a thicker device is far far worse than a camera protrusion. You don't think about it and can't comprehend it because you don't have that thicker device to compare it with in your hand. Apple has those thicker devices because they made prototypes and elected to make the camera protrude so the experience of holding the device is profoundly better.
My iPhone 4s has a flush camera. So does my iPhone 5. The 5s does as well. So does the iPhone SE.

How about the Huawei P10+?



PS. I prefer the feel of my 5 in my hand over the 6s+. But again, that's just me.
 
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Two speakers in the bottom does virtually nothing and it would not be something Apple elected to do UNLESS the right speaker is now shrunk down extremely small and they placed a second speaker of equal power on the opposite side of it. See, previously if the right speaker was as it is now, and you added a left speaker, the left speaker would be physically far less powerful and therefore you are left with an uneven decibel output. Of course two speakers at the bottom does not give stereo sound because they are too close to each other to differentiate the sound, but I believe Apple may opt to place a small speaker on the left and on the right now, as opposed to the single large speaker on the right. This would of course be for internal engineering reasons, giving far more space on the right side, and hopefully an equal quality and decibel output from the two smaller speakers combining to equate to that of the single larger speaker.

I believe this could be so strictly from reasoning from rumored features and schematic leaks. A rumored inclusion is a second cell battery on the right side of the device, under the logic board. Presently the speaker on the bottom right of the device takes absolutely enormous space on the right side, and sits clear up to the logic board. If the second battery is so, then that right speaker is in the way, and therefore it must be rethought.
Your entire post assumes: speaker = speaker = speaker.

There are large differences in speakers other than power output. Having two speakers in the bottom means the audio signal can be split into separate bandwidths. The lows and the highs no longer mingle. Same reason why speakers are separated into woofer, midrange, and tweeter.
 
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