iPhone 8 Facial Recognition Appears to Support Payments, Multiple Faces and Third-Party Apps

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Developers are still digging into the recently released HomePod firmware to suss out additional details on Apple's upcoming "iPhone 8," and the latest information, sourced from developer Guilherme Rambo, hints at several features we might see in the new device.

    According to strings of code uncovered by Rambo, the facial recognition feature coming in the iPhone 8 appears to support authentication for Apple Pay payments, seems to work with multiple faces, and may be accessible by third-party apps, much like Touch ID.


    A line in the code references a payment authentication error with "Pearl," Apple's internal code name for face recognition in the iPhone 8, while a string that reads "numberOfAppsUsingPearl" suggests facial recognition functionality can be accessed by third-party apps, likely as a passcode replacement. Given this information, facial recognition appears to be a full replacement for Touch ID, just as rumors have suggested.


    Apple's upcoming facial recognition system is said to be faster and more secure than Touch ID. It can unlock an iPhone within a few hundred milliseconds, and it captures more data points than a fingerprint scan. Thanks to previous firmware leaks, we also know that it works when the iPhone is laying flat on a table and it mutes notification sounds when a face is in view.

    In addition to unveiling new information about facial recognition, Rambo has also found a few other interesting bits of code that may hint at additional features coming in the iPhone 8.

    There are references to multi biometrics, modern HDR, 1080p240 camera capture functionality for a "back" and a "front" (suggesting 240 fps video capture at 1080p, an upgrade from the current 720p limit), and mentions of "FrontPearl" and "BackPearl" camera support.

    While the HomePod firmware has provided us with a range of details on what to expect from the iPhone 8, it's important not to read too much into ambiguous code and make too many assumptions about features that are as-of-yet unclear. "BackPearl" could suggest facial recognition for both the front and rear cameras, for example, but it could mean something else entirely. The same goes for multi-biometrics and modern HDR.

    Additionally, not all of the referenced features are guaranteed to make it into the iPhone 8, so take this code as a suggestion of what might be coming rather than concrete proof of a feature.

    Apple first released the HomePod firmware in late July, and because it was meant for employees testing the not-yet-available HomePod speaker, which runs a version of iOS, Apple did not strip out references to upcoming products and features.

    Images of an iPhone 8 dummy model shared by Ben Miller

    From the firmware, we've seen glimpses of the final design of the iPhone 8, and have found references to infrared-based facial recognition features, a split status bar, a tap to wake feature, new SmartCamera functionality, and more.

    Details on other upcoming products, including the HomePod itself, the Series 3 Apple Watch, and a possible 4K Apple TV have also been uncovered in the firmware.

    Article Link: iPhone 8 Facial Recognition Appears to Support Payments, Multiple Faces and Third-Party Apps
  2. farewelwilliams macrumors 65816

    Jun 18, 2014
  3. and 1989 others macrumors member

    Sep 21, 2016
    That dummy model looks like it belongs on a building site.
  4. ck2875 macrumors 6502a


    Mar 25, 2009

    I know it's just someone's really ugly mockup unit, but I would like to think Apple wouldn't release a poop-brown iPhone.
  5. pat500000 macrumors 604


    Jun 3, 2015
    When a user gets into a fist fight and ends up getting bruised up.....
  6. suprakc macrumors regular

    Jun 15, 2013
    Well at least they are releasing that super-awesome mauve-make-up color... And, clearly, Jony doesn't work for apple anymore as the "seamless" bezel is now a samsung bezel glued to the front of an iPhone 7...
  7. iapplelove macrumors 68040


    Nov 22, 2011
    East Coast USA
  8. RobinInOR macrumors 6502


    Sep 14, 2014
    That left pic better not be accurate - if that’s what the copper/silver front will look like, way too much white showing. Glad it’s just a dummy mock-up.
  9. nviz22 macrumors 68040


    Jun 24, 2013
  10. aloshka macrumors 65816

    Aug 30, 2009
    I really hope the white version exists.. GORGEOUS!! I wasn't so excited about iPhone 7, but man, this thing is beautiful. really hope the rumors are true. .
  11. Relentless Power macrumors G5

    Relentless Power

    Jul 12, 2016
    That's actually a Copper colored iPhone I believe. I'm not confident "Poop Brown" would be used in Apple's marketing terminology for an iPhone and it might be off putting for the consumer.
  12. Szarky macrumors 6502a

    Jul 29, 2010
  13. DotCom2 macrumors 68030

    Feb 22, 2009
    I wonder how long it took this Brazilian Whizz Kid to find all this?
  14. Bacillus, Aug 9, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2017

    Bacillus macrumors 65816


    Jun 25, 2009
    Ahh - that paves the way for some advanced futures:
    - Recognizing the same face at both front and rear cameras means serious trouble
    (= probably one of those capped youtube imbeciles bending/twisting the device,
    Alarm mode on !)
    - Automatic crosschecking of faces against national FBI criminals lists
    - AR enhanced overlay with person's public data records

    This device doubles as the most enhanced security camera
  15. Uni Grad, Aug 9, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2017

    Uni Grad macrumors 6502a

    Uni Grad

    Aug 28, 2015
    Bloomberg News
    Woah, it's been leak after leak since the HomePod firmware got released.

  16. DocMultimedia macrumors regular

    Sep 8, 2012
    Charlottesville, VA
    I'm buying everything this fall. Goodies! Also a refurbished iMac and MacBook (2017) when they make it to return page.
    --- Post Merged, Aug 9, 2017 ---
    Seriously. No sarcasm on that post.
  17. AngerDanger, Aug 9, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2017

    AngerDanger macrumors 68030


    Dec 9, 2008

    Apple is probably just allowing users to pay for things in pearls.
  18. Nr123*123 macrumors 6502

    Jul 1, 2014
    You know who I feel sorry for?

    Macrumors' writers.

    You have to constantly come up with new phrases for "leaked from homepod firmware".

    Eventually you'll just say "it's f*****g homepod, you know it and I know"
  19. brunozs macrumors member

    Sep 7, 2005
    Maybe Face ID will work just like Touch ID, minus having to place your finger on the reader
  20. and 1989 others macrumors member

    Sep 21, 2016
    Hang on a minute... That colour. I know where It has been debuted before.

    ... The ZUNE!
  21. fitshaced macrumors 68000


    Jul 2, 2011
    The FBI will love this attack on the Burka.
  22. SamGabbay macrumors 6502a


    Oct 15, 2011
  23. JohnApples macrumors 65816

    Mar 7, 2014
    Oh yay, more HomePod leaks. This means we can fully expect "LOLz let's just ask HomePod for the answer!!" jokes for the next year.
  24. Chupa Chupa macrumors G5

    Chupa Chupa

    Jul 16, 2002
    Can it recognize faces in the early nausea phase? I hope so because I know that's how I'd look if I owned one of those brown...er Old World Copper...iPhones. I really hope that is just a bad picture or a fake.

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