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iPhone 8 plus or iPhone x

super chimp said:
That’s a rather arrogant sounding position to take.
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Thing is, in the beginning there used to be one iPhone, it was small, it was unique. Nothing more. Everybody would get the same experience under the brand iPhone.

Now you got like 5 or 6 different models that fragment the iPhone experience. An edge owner will not have the same experience as an X owner at all, (just think of the home button vs swipe gestures, facial sensors third party apps will use) yet both would be iPhone owners. nether model share the same features and as a consequence they shouldn't go by the same name.

I'm not saying they shouldn't sell different phones, but they should get different names. A modern iPhone owner would expect to have apps to use with their advanced frontal camera, a modern iPhone owner would be familiar with no home button, with a colorful display that spans almost the entire surface, and so on.

And no, mac fragmentation doesn't apply here.
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mzsigler said:
Then they should have gotten them in production in time to meet demand. #sorrynotsorry
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They should have.
 
Kulfon said:
Just wondering, where is the urgency coming from? It is not like there a need to have this phone🙂
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I currently have a 6 and the battery is completely shot. Lasts about 20 minutes off the charger, so yes 😛 some slight urgency imho
 
adamjackson said:
took some time to put everything down in a blog post - https://adamchandler.me/blog/2017/09/14/technology-a-brief-reaction-to-apples-september-2017-event/

InB4 "people still blog?"

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But I think for me, writing things out really does help me a lot with decisions so I mostly write for myself. Either way, I'll be getting an iPhone 8 Plus. i've tried to get a plus for years on launch day. Maybe I can finally get one?
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Nice post its funny how much your thoughts match mine. I am still waffling on keeping the 8+ but I have like a week and a half to decide what to do. I am hoping to make it to the Pixel 2 announcement at the very least. I likely would pass on the X this year just because I doubt I will get it anytime this year. I could just keep the 7+ as well. Apple gave me until Oct. 9th to decide on that one at least.
 
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stabile007 said:
Nice post its funny how much your thoughts match mine. I am still waffling on keeping the 8+ but I have like a week and a half to decide what to do. I am hoping to make it to the Pixel 2 announcement at the very least. I likely would pass on the X this year just because I doubt I will get it anytime this year. I could just keep the 7+ as well. Apple gave me until Oct. 9th to decide on that one at least.
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good luck !!
 
rafark said:
Thing is, in the beginning there used to be one iPhone, it was small, it was unique. Nothing more. Everybody would get the same experience under the brand iPhone.

Now you got like 5 or 6 different models that fragment the iPhone experience. An edge owner will not have the same experience as an X owner at all, (just think of the home button vs swipe gestures, facial sensors third party apps will use) yet both would be iPhone owners. nether model share the same features and as a consequence they shouldn't go by the same name.

I'm not saying they shouldn't sell different phones, but they should get different names. A modern iPhone owner would expect to have apps to use with their advanced frontal camera, a modern iPhone owner would be familiar with no home button, with a colorful display that spans almost the entire surface, and so on.

And no, mac fragmentation doesn't apply here.
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They should have.
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Completely disagree there is no need for Apple to exaggerate any fragmentation by going around giving different devices with different names, the iPhone isn’t the same as Android in that way as it’s supposed to be a more unified brand.
 
rafark said:
Thing is, in the beginning there used to be one iPhone, it was small, it was unique. Nothing more. Everybody would get the same experience under the brand iPhone.

Now you got like 5 or 6 different models that fragment the iPhone experience. An edge owner will not have the same experience as an X owner at all, (just think of the home button vs swipe gestures, facial sensors third party apps will use) yet both would be iPhone owners. nether model share the same features and as a consequence they shouldn't go by the same name.

I'm not saying they shouldn't sell different phones, but they should get different names. A modern iPhone owner would expect to have apps to use with their advanced frontal camera, a modern iPhone owner would be familiar with no home button, with a colorful display that spans almost the entire surface, and so on.

And no, mac fragmentation doesn't apply here.
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They should have.
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All Apple clients have different uses for their products. Thank goodness Apple realizes this and have product variations to accommodate this.

As it is, you can choose where you want most of your processing power and get the 'pro' version of that machine while maintaining basic/middle versions of other products within the Apple ecosystem.
 
Hellenek said:
All Apple clients have different uses for their products. Thank goodness Apple realizes this and have product variations to accommodate this.

As it is, you can choose where you want most of your processing power and get the 'pro' version of that machine while maintaining basic/middle versions of other products within the Apple ecosystem.
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It still would have been nice if they'd sold the X at the same price point as the 8 and just not bothered with the 8 at all. Everybody would have got the same experience like we are used to. Apple are marketing a premium iPhone because it's good for them but it doesn't benefit consumers at all as far as I can see?

The iPhone X is out of my reach yet I've enjoyed iPhones for years. I'm open to suggestions as to how this is suddenly a good thing to the lions share of iPhone users of course.
 
iPadPublisher said:
Well, my original intention was to hold out for the X. However, my daughter needs a phone, so I'm getting both. I'll use the 8+ until the X shows up, then give her the 8+. Verizon let me setup a trade in for the 7+ at $300 which made it easier to go this route.
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I’ll suggest for you to tried selling your phone on eBay. You’ll get more money. I was offer 450.00 for my 6s plus. Which I never sold because I’m trying to hold on to it until Apple comes out with a Big Bang. Lol I’ll tried not to hold my breath to long for that one. Lol
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rjjacobson said:
For me although the 8-8Plus are nice they do not offer enough of a change from my 7 Plus. But as a techie and on apple upgrade program I do want to use the capabilities of the upgrade. I was for awhile 50/50 on the X but now am pretty convinced I will order an X on my upgrade program to try one out. But the 8's are nice and if you are coming from a 6, 6s series or earlier they are big upgrade...
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I also have the 7 Plus 256GB, so same thing either the X or wait. I am on the apple Upgrade program so my monthly payments will keep going with 7Plus or a bit higher with X and I get AppleCare plus in deal. So if the X is not too constrained months beyond for me I may go with it. At least I will try ;-)
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For me on the upgrade program two things, first I am paying til next fall anyway, on a 7Plus 256, so the monthly payment will not go up much with x, I get to try it (the camera tech front and back are my main interests, and why I kept upgrading in the Plus series anyway). Status not a big issue, I am a techie and like playing with apple tech and yes sometimes it is cutting edge LOL

Here are things on X that I want from a post here with differences from 8 series:

  • More Pixels-- Yeah Ok nice to have in a smaller to hold footprint
  • Large Screen-- Ok with me about same (a bit narrower than my plus)
  • OIS in both Cameras. YES-- one feature I want for helping me with image stabilization and night photos
  • Better aperture on telephoto camera: Yes since cameras of interest to me and one of big uses on my iPhones
  • OLED-Yes really wanting to see what it can do, especially in sunlight and such...
  • 2 Hours more battery life (than iPhone 7)- Yes- always like more battery life time will tell if this really is true of course
Things that make no difference or I could care less

  • Animoji--NO way have no interest in that feature LOL
  • No Home Button
  • FaceID -- Undecided, but as a techie worth playing with compared to my fingerprint and issues with wet/dirty fingerprint an such
  • Larger side buttons--MEH
[doublepost=1505920289][/doublepost]Just wanted to share a post that I replied with on another MacRumors thread. The link and piece I clipped I really like. It really says positive things about all the iPhone line you can buy this fall -- they are all great-- yea it is another fanboy "digital magazine or whatever" but this one has lots of wisdom and I wanted to share it here also just because I get tired of those who are not upgrading, or those going with 8 series or x lambasting each other. There are good choices for each of us and the public agrees that the iPhone line is in terms of profit and overall sales right up if not beyond the varied and fragmented droid world (besides many other issues I do not personally like about droids ;-) ). So for each of you (upgrading or not, 8 vs X) this might be useful info:

Post from another thread starts here:

With interest I read the back and forth on the 8-8+ vs X by haters and lovers of each. In particular the putdowns that the 8 series are really 7s (who really cares, now I have a 7 Plus so let me state right off on my apple update plan I probably will try out the X because I am a techie LOL). Anyway Several of the posts here and threads are all the same back and forth. This morning I saw this piece on AppleInsider that is really too the point about the iPhone and why it has slain almost all the competition in terms of market share in profit and sales. The fragmentation of droids, their technology and so on just cannot compete with the solid foundation of controlling the tech and software that Apple has lain. I am sure as soon as ai post this I will get those who like it and those who pick it apart with their pet dislikes of what Apple did and should have done ;-) I don't care this one really says a lot to me and why I will stick with this technology -- which is not perfect but for me better than droids ;-)

I focus on this section but link is below:
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More than a new shape, smartphone buyers have demonstrated an interest in paying more for performance. Performance benchmarks are generally a niche interest, but consumers are well aware of the real world frustrations of slow delays, jittery animations and an unresponsive UI.

Early on, iPhone built in premium GPUs and packed in more RAM than other smartphones, enabling smooth scrolling and sophisticated apps and games.

iPhone 8 is no exception. Its A11 Bionic is the fastest chip in smartphones, and delivers advanced new Neural Net capabilities demonstrated in its Face ID and other face mapping apps that apply augmented reality to enhancing live images.

While Apple has relentlessly invested in proprietary high-performance silicon, Google has flopped back and forth between pursuing the idea of blanketing emerging countries with super cheap phones--while casting shade on how expensive Apple's iPhones are--and alternatively trying to bring its own premium-priced devices to market.

However, with those cycles of vilifying premium, expensive hardware Google has shot off appendages it can't simply grow back. Android licensees now lack competitive SoC options and the economies of scale needed to compete with Apple in premium phones. As Androids plummet in asking prices, there's no budget to include high-end processors and GPUs across a broad enough audience to effectively bring down their cost.

By selling incredible numbers of high-end devices that all use the same super-fast chips, Apple has singlehandedly financed the development of the world's fastest mobile processors. Starting with iPhone 8, it also now includes its own internally-designed, Metal 2-optimized Apple GPU, meaning Android licensees can't just buy the iPhone's GPU technology off the shelf anymore.

Apple's first GPU in iPhone 8 already claims to be 30 percent faster than the Imagination GPU used in iPhone 7 models--which was already the leading graphics architecture in smartphones. As it enhances its Metal software and releases new versions of its GPU, it will further distance iOS devices from the generic graphics available to mid-range Androids.

Recall that Google one banked on Texas Instruments's OMAP4 for advanced Android GPUs, and later hailed Nvidia's Tegra. Due to inadequate device sales supporting those advanced GPUs, both companies eventually gave up and exited the smartphone business.

In contrast, Apple has created a massive installed base of premium mobile computing users. That's enabling it to drive App Store sales of high-end games and sophisticated apps that make use of its advanced CPU and GPU designs.

It has also laid a foundation for ARKit apps, which distinguish iOS as a platform. ARKit builds upon all the work Apple has done to build a cohesive platform of calibrated devices that share the same motion-sensing hardware and cameras. Google can copy the software, but there's not a large base of Androids powerful enough (or similar enough) to run it well.........."


here is link to article for the full read...

http://appleinsider.com/articles/17/09/20/editorial-who-will-buy-iphone-8
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Looking forward for all the things you mentioned. Plus more!
 
I laughed so hard For For the kids here that are iPhone 6/6S/7 users that upgrades to iPhone 8 instead of X for three reasons, If you compare iPhone 6/6S, iPhone 8 and X to the front you will realized that iPhone X is much closer to design of iPhone 6 that is 4 yars ago.

The most confusing to me is, iPhone 8 still has those Huge bezels just like he iPhone 6/6S...

Some people just assume that your using an iPhone 6 even if you have iPhone 8 in your hands like if you wear case on it they will think your STILL use an iPhone 6/6S that is ancient design with big ugly bezels.. unlike iPhone X is gorgeous just like my pretty face
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The-Real-Deal82 said:
It still would have been nice if they'd sold the X at the same price point as the 8 and just not bothered with the 8 at all. Everybody would have got the same experience like we are used to. Apple are marketing a premium iPhone because it's good for them but it doesn't benefit consumers at all as far as I can see?

The iPhone X is out of my reach yet I've enjoyed iPhones for years. I'm open to suggestions as to how this is suddenly a good thing to the lions share of iPhone users of course.
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Well If Both iPhone X and iPhone 8 is the same price of course people will buy the iPhone X because its newer and has latest design...
iPhone X will still be cost 50 to 400$ more than 8
 
Vivian125 said:
The most confusing to me is, iPhone 8 still has those Huge bezels just like he iPhone 6/6S...

Some people just assume that your using an iPhone 6 even if you have iPhone 8 in your hands like if you wear case on it they will think your STILL use an iPhone 6/6S that is ancient design with big ugly bezels..
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Well... you could be like me and enjoy your blazing fast 8 Plus (that shares the same internal hardware as the X anyway) and not care what other people think of your electronic devices... I'd recommend it actually. It would probably be a lot less stress for you in the long run.

Life is too short to worry about whether or not someone else likes my phone.

🙂
 
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Vivian125 said:
I laughed so hard For For the kids here that are iPhone 6/6S/7 users that upgrades to iPhone 8 instead of X for three reasons, If you compare iPhone 6/6S, iPhone 8 and X to the front you will realized that iPhone X is much closer to design of iPhone 6 that is 4 yars ago.

The most confusing to me is, iPhone 8 still has those Huge bezels just like he iPhone 6/6S...

Some people just assume that your using an iPhone 6 even if you have iPhone 8 in your hands like if you wear case on it they will think your STILL use an iPhone 6/6S that is ancient design with big ugly bezels.. unlike iPhone X is gorgeous just like my pretty face
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That depends if you are buying an iPhone for superficial reasons and because you care what others think. I couldn’t care less if people thought I was using an older phone than I’m actually using. I buy phones for my benefit, not theirs. I also don’t associate with shallow people who judge me based on what phone I am using. I’m 35 years old and immature stuff like that was left behind a long time ago.

Vivian125 said:
Well If Both iPhone X and iPhone 8 is the same price of course people will buy the iPhone X because its newer and has latest design...
iPhone X will still be cost 50 to 400$ more than 8
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I didn’t say anything about selling them at the same price point side by side.
 
The-Real-Deal82 said:
That depends if you are buying an iPhone for superficial reasons and because you care what others think. I couldn’t care less if people thought I was using an older phone than I’m actually using. I buy phones for my benefit, not theirs. I also don’t associate with shallow people who judge me based on what phone I am using. I’m 35 years old and immature stuff like that was left behind a long time ago.


I didn’t say anything about selling them at the same price point side by side.
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I think that y’all should just get what ever iphone makes y’all happy. Forget what other people may think or say. At the end of the day the money is coming out of y’all pockets not theirs. 🙂
 
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