Not so much as a diversion but more a case of the conditions that iPhones are manufactured in. When you take in to account how much it costs to produce an iPhone and what the consumer pays it puts things in to perspective.Nice Diversion.
Not so much as a diversion but more a case of the conditions that iPhones are manufactured in. When you take in to account how much it costs to produce an iPhone and what the consumer pays it puts things in to perspective.Nice Diversion.
I don't where "here" is for you, but what you describe is what the US was like 10 years ago. The options today make buying outright up front the least sensible thing to do.
That is not my experience. I really don't know how you can go back to Windows but more power to you.
Not so much as a diversion but more a case of the conditions that iPhones are manufactured in. When you take in to account how much it costs to produce an iPhone and what the consumer pays it puts things in to perspective.
Would hate to go the android route, though
My main complaint with the (1,1) was that the Core Duo CPU ran pretty hot. I think this affected the life of the batteries, but as you say, they were easy to swap if need be.Yeah, the 1,1 was a pretty good machine. The aluminum case was too thin, so it bent too easily. The hard drive was more of a pain to change than it should have been. And I did more MLB swaps on those than should have been necessary, there were definitely some issues there, I tended to pretty strongly recommend AppleCare for them.
But the keyboard was great, MUCH better than current MBPs. The MagSafe connector was a great idea for users, and Apple probably made a very smart move abandoning it, they'll get a lot of repairs and replacements from smashed machines because they dropped that connector.
And don't get me started on the battery. It was so convenient to do a quick battery swap, you could avoid charging for weeks if you had enough batteries. Plug in the computer? Why bother? Just put a couple spares on an external charger, and swap batteries.
People that don't do the math are deluded. It isn't even close.Oh man, someone needs to be dragged back to primary school! If you think you paying less just because you paying small amounts monthly you are clearly diluted.
What lie? AT&T charges $40/mon for each device that is an unlocked phone. They charge $15/mon instead for devices that are on installment plans. It's called: INCENTIVE.Stop spreading this lie. The plans are the same price. Look it up. The plans are only more expensive if you bought a subsidized phone under a 2 year contract which doesn't exist anymore.
The part of your argument that would actually make you less wrong if it was true is 100% false.
I didn't say I was paying more than that, in fact I pay less when I divide my plan by the number of devices on it. I said I doubt that you are paying so little. But now I understand, you're on one of those limited pre-pay plans that include zero features. Got it. Also not comparable.I pay $45/month as a pre-paid customer with unlimited talk/text and 6 GB of data. $40 with auto pay....so you're paying even more than that? Then my point is even more valid about how much better it is to pay full retail.
Even if you plan to keep it for 3-4 years, you're not spending LESS by paying for it in one day. FACTUALLY, you would paid less if spread over 20 or 24 months, because at the end of that you have paid the EXACT same amount for the device, minus $25/mon in service fees that AT&T takes off for devices on installment plans.Why do you care if I choose to keep my phone for 3-4 years? (Because it debunks the whole premise of your argument.)
The United States Patent & Trademark Office (USPTO) on Tuesday awarded Apple patents for a bezel-less screen, a depth mapping system and an always-on Touch ID fingerprint sensor integrated into the display, which are the three key features expected from iPhone 8. The patents are part of a series of 56 newly granted patents for Apple today, according to PatentlyApple.
What lie? AT&T charges $40/mon for each device that is an unlocked phone. They charge $15/mon instead for devices that are on installment plans. It's called: INCENTIVE.
Fact.
What lie? AT&T charges $40/mon for each device that is an unlocked phone. They charge $15/mon instead for devices that are on installment plans. It's called: INCENTIVE.
Fact.
I buy my phones unlocked and use them on a $30/month plan. The average person is paying closer to $100/month for their subsidized phone plan. How exactly am I being a sucker?
If the phone that is to be announced in September is suppose to have this technology, I can almost guarantee that they have a working model and probably have had one for a while. You do know, that they are probably working on the 2018 and 2019 models as well?be wary that one doesn't need a working prototype to be awarded a patent. For all we know, Apple could have just submitted drawings and is still working on getting a working unit.
If the phone that is to be announced in September is suppose to have this technology, I can almost guarantee that they have a working model and probably have had one for a while. You do know, that they are probably working on the 2018 and 2019 models as well?
False. No other way to put it. You're wrong.No, you're wrong. Very wrong.
Again, and for the last time, you are comparing 2 year contract price to unlocked/payment plan price. There is no difference in price between an unlocked phone and a payment plan phone. Not with AT&T. Not anywhere.
I'm sorry you've been overpaying out of complete ignorance.
False. No other way to put it. You're wrong.
Seriously considering the SE, but was hoping to see an update.
And I don't know if I could go back to such a small screen! But the "pocketability" of the SE cannot be beat!
So I can get a Galaxy S8 with facial scanning, OLED, wireless charging, and minimum bezels for $300 dollars less and the s8 is selling in record numbers. And most of these features Samsung has last year...
What exactly is the next iPhone bringing to make it worth that much more?
I never left windows, even with all the so called issues that most apple users say that windows have. Have some Windows versions been a bust, sure they have, but in the end, the OS really never cause me any issues over the years, all the way back from Windows 3.1.
With that said, I have no problem if you like your Apple computer, more power to you. I will never try to talk you out of using it or try to talk you into buying a Windows 10 system. If what you use meets your needs, it doesn't matter what others say. I was only trying give my opinion based on my experiences as a PC user.
Have a great DAY!
People that don't do the math are deluded. It isn't even close.
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What lie? AT&T charges $40/mon for each device that is an unlocked phone. They charge $15/mon instead for devices that are on installment plans. It's called: INCENTIVE.
Fact.
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I didn't say I was paying more than that, in fact I pay less when I divide my plan by the number of devices on it. I said I doubt that you are paying so little. But now I understand, you're on one of those limited pre-pay plans that include zero features. Got it. Also not comparable.
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Even if you plan to keep it for 3-4 years, you're not spending LESS by paying for it in one day. FACTUALLY, you would paid less if spread over 20 or 24 months, because at the end of that you have paid the EXACT same amount for the device, minus $25/mon in service fees that AT&T takes off for devices on installment plans.
There is no way to argue that paying up front = saving money. None.
Integrated messaging with other iThings. That's mostly it.
you can add to that lantern, gps, etcFor younger people, it's more than just a mobile device. It's something they use for literally 4+ hours a day, every day. It's their camera, communicator, computer, audio and video consumer, banking & wallet, social life and basically everything else.
No it is quite clear that some of you just want buying unlocked to mean something, to have some value, that it doesn't have. I've made the case quite clear a dozen times now. It is provably false that it is possible to save money by buying unlocked, and using a comparably-featured plan. I keep seeing people ignore that, and saying that "obviously" the person who spends $1000 in one day for an iPhone, "obviously" then signs up for the worst pre-paid no-features plan the carrier offers, and that is how they save money, as if that were appreciable.Surely you're just arguing for arguments sake now or to save face. Everyone in here, including myself, has exposed your ignorance to the forum readers. Go argue on a Windows store thread. They need someone on their side.
No it is quite clear that some of you just want buying unlocked to mean something, to have some value, that it doesn't have. I've made the case quite clear a dozen times now. It is provably false that it is possible to save money by buying unlocked, and using a comparably-featured plan. I keep seeing people ignore that, and saying that "obviously" the person who spends $1000 in one day for an iPhone, "obviously" then signs up for the worst pre-paid no-features plan the carrier offers, and that is how they save money, as if that were appreciable.