iPhone 8 price is confusing

Spooner83

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I'm confused by the iPhone 8 price. Is the $1000 price for a retail value phone, like if you don't have a carrier? What I'm saying is that the price is always lower around $200-$300 if you do a lease plan with your carrier. So, is the price going to stay the same with carriers like it is now and how they basically lease you the phone or let you buy it after a year, or is it going to actually be $1000 when you first get the phone even with a carrier lease plan? Am I making sense?
 

Spooner83

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That's a good recommendation but what I'm trying to figure out is what these blogs mean by the price. I get it that it's around $1000 but how is that price mapped out?

Like, right now I pay $70 for unlimited service on my phone with my carrier, plus an additional monthly payment of $20-$30 (depending on your storage size) that goes toward the phone. At the end of the year, I can buy the phone outright or trade it in for the new model being released. I'll call this a lease plan.

Whatever the iPhone 8 is going to cost, are carriers going to offer this same lease plan? Or, what are they going to do?

So confused.
 

C DM

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That's a good recommendation but what I'm trying to figure out is what these blogs mean by the price. I get it that it's around $1000 but how is that price mapped out?

Like, right now I pay $70 for unlimited service on my phone with my carrier, plus an additional monthly payment of $20-$30 (depending on your storage size) that goes toward the phone. At the end of the year, I can buy the phone outright or trade it in for the new model being released. I'll call this a lease plan.

Whatever the iPhone 8 is going to cost, are carriers going to offer this same lease plan? Or, what are they going to do?

So confused.
Whatever the price that was used to break down into monthly payments for your phone now would simply be a different price and would then result in somewhat higher monthly payments (not counting any promotions that the carriers might be offering at times, as they do sometimes now as well).
 

Spooner83

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Thanks, that's what I thought. I couldn't figure out why people were freaking out over the $1000 price. I'm like so what, you just pay a little more but it's still the same phone plan that you have now. Lol
 

C DM

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Thanks, that's what I thought. I couldn't figure out why people were freaking out over the $1000 price. I'm like so what, you just pay a little more but it's still the same phone plan that you have now. Lol
I'm thinking that it's the whole pay more part of it that many/most wouldn't like so much. (That aside, it's possible carriers might change something in relation to it all too.)
 

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Thanks, that's what I thought. I couldn't figure out why people were freaking out over the $1000 price. I'm like so what, you just pay a little more but it's still the same phone plan that you have now. Lol
Because a $1000 is a lot of a phone to begin with. Thats how companies get you with monthly payments. "Its only $3-4 dollars more a month." A lot of people finance phones because they could not afford to pay for it up front. I finance because I upgrade yearly and don't have to deal with the hassle of selling. But the idea is to get people to spend more than they normally would.

So, $1000 is a good amount of money for a phone, when you can buy a full MBA for the same exact cost.
 

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Some people prefer to buy the phone outright over a monthly payment.BThose people would feel the pinch more.

And being on a payment plan (even at 0% interest) just spreads the cost...
 

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Thanks, that's what I thought. I couldn't figure out why people were freaking out over the $1000 price. I'm like so what, you just pay a little more but it's still the same phone plan that you have now. Lol
In retrospect, If you purchase the iPhone 7 Plus with a 256 GB storage, it's already over a $1000. Basically, some already spend over a $1000 as it is. The hype behind this iPhone is building tension for some and I wouldn't read to deep into the price points. Although, a price increase wouldn't surprise me, but how drastic, we will find out.
 
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mmomega

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Everything at this point is just speculation but gives a decent ballpark figure. As with every iPhone, Apple will let us know ahead of release date what the actual cost is.

If you plan for worst case scenario, then you are ready, if the pricing comes in below the speculated numbers then it's a win.
You just have to remember until Apple actually states pricing, then the numbers we see are just people guessing.
 
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aristobrat

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What I'm saying is that the price is always lower around $200-$300 if you do a lease plan with your carrier.
I've only used AT&T Next and Apple's Yearly Upgrade Program, neither of which are lease plans. The price you pay monthly is simply the initial price divided by the number of months. The price is never lower by $200-$300. Which company has lease plans when the price drops?
 
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gnasher729

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I'm confused by the iPhone 8 price. Is the $1000 price for a retail value phone, like if you don't have a carrier? What I'm saying is that the price is always lower around $200-$300 if you do a lease plan with your carrier. So, is the price going to stay the same with carriers like it is now and how they basically lease you the phone or let you buy it after a year, or is it going to actually be $1000 when you first get the phone even with a carrier lease plan? Am I making sense?
Any price that you have seen so far is completely made up. Someone is guessing what the price will be, or just making it up. You will have to wait until it is actually released. Until then, check out the price for an iPhone 7+ with 256GB. Take whatever that costs as the minimum, add 15% and take that as the maximum. It will be somewhere in that range. Well, that's me guessing, but unlike all these "analysts" I'll admit that I'm guessing.
 
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Relentless Power

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Everything at this point is just speculation but gives a decent ballpark figure. As with every iPhone, Apple will let us know ahead of release date what the actual cost is.

If you plan for worst case scenario, then you are ready, if the pricing comes in below the speculated numbers then it's a win.
You just have to remember until Apple actually states pricing, then the numbers we see are just people guessing.
I agree. IF there are three model iPhones this year, the OLED model would be the highest priced for obvious reasons. I think once someone makes the iPhone purchase, they also are not factoring in additional accessories (Cases, Chargers, screen protectors) and Apple Care is something else To consider for cost related. In the end, it adds up very fast.
 
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bufffilm

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With the latest rumors out, this thing is going to sell thru the roof.

Hope you've been saving your pennies for a while...it will cost.

I wonder how many ip7/+ owners will upgrade...these yearly upgraders have must have $$$ to spend. Oh well.
 
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Geert76

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Funny how people who are on a 24 months payment plan, sound like $1000 is actually just $10.

Smart move by Apple, those 24 months plan...hardly any price limits for Apple, ''cause its just a few bucks more per month than last year...'
 
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Relentless Power

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Funny how people who are on a 24 months payment plan, sound like $1000 is actually just $10.

Smart move by Apple, those 24 months plan...hardly any price limits for Apple, ''cause its just a few bucks more per month than last year...'
And that's usually the mentality. The iPhone raises in price, then it's a few more dollars added on to what someone would pay on a monthly installed payment plan on the iPhone.

To me, I think it's crazy now that phones are like loans. Monthly installed plans to pay off your phone over the course of two years. I understand carriers have changed financing and it seems more affordable, but it takes away from the ownership of the phone. Unless you're somebody that upgrades every single year, then I guess it wouldn't really matter. (Which I upgrade annually.)

What's nice about owning the phone, as you can do so as you please with it.
 
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C DM

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And that's usually the mentality. The iPhone raises in price, then it's a few more dollars added on to what someone would pay on a monthly installed payment plan on the iPhone.

To me, I think it's crazy now that phones are like loans. Monthly installed plans to pay off your phone over the course of two years. I understand carriers have changed financing and it seems more affordable, but it takes away from the ownership of the phone. Unless you're somebody that upgrades every single year, then I guess it wouldn't really matter. (Which I upgrade annually.)

What's nice about owning the phone, as you can do so as you please with it.
You still own the phone, you just have a loan basically for the amount of the cost of the phone that you are paying off monthly (or can pay off fully at any time).

The trickier part is that carriers have started offering deals where they will subsidize part of the cost by giving you a monthly credit over the term of the loan, so to get all of that subsidized part you would want to stay with the carrier for that whole time period--basically just a different way of doing contracts in a sense with a subsidized phone, just as carriers have been doing all along before.
 
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