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Well I was just wondering why they don't rename it the Apple/Samsung Android/iPhone 8? :p

Android now lead and Apple follows. :)
"Android" an operating system? I'll assume you mean "all the zillion Android manufacturers combined"? As ludicrous as that is, as of course Apple can't add every feature before the next 20 companies, there are still a ton of ways Apple is ahead. Hell, Apple providing the improved Lightning connector was already way ahead of micro USB. USB-C on phones is just catching up to the iPhone 5 in terms of a small, reversible connector with the potential for higher bandwidth.
 
Sweet. Thanks for making me spend $100 on lightning earbuds this year, only to put them in a drawer if I want dongle-less earbuds again next year.

I used to think their changing of ports was about innovation, but if they do this USB-C thing, I have to think it's really just a cash grab.

And I feel sorry for all the small companies already invested in, or currently developing lighting headphones.

Get ready for the iPhone 9 Classic with 30 pin connector.

Making you? Maybe you should have used the included lightning earbuds? Or the included 3.5mm analog jack to lighting adapter along with the analog earbuds/headphones you already have?

I have yet to allow a manufacture "make me" do anything.
 
The move to USB-C is the surprise. I don't think it'll happen. But if it does, it'll be odd.

1. End of MFi Program as you know it: if USB-C is adopted as the standard, Apple can no longer force vendors to subscribe / pay for MFI

2. All previous MFI based lightning peripherals would either need an adaptor, or be incompatible.

3. The "lightning headphones" and lightning to 3.5 adaptor would have been short lived adventure, and further evidence that the iPhone 7's removal of headphone port was at least a generation pre-mature.
 
It's going to be USB C on the other end of cord. So you can plug it into a new MBP for example. Sadly it will still be lightning going INTO the iPhone itself.
 
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Which other flagship is considerably cheaper than the iPhones? Not counting the Chinese companies.
Google pixel xl is $700ish, one plus 3t is $440, Nokia 6 is cheap not 100% on the price yet. My iPhone was $1190 after Apple care and taxes.

Also iPhones are made in China and cost about $300 to make, I understand they are out to make a profit but that's a big profit for what?!
 
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Can we clarify something. Moving to USB-C means moving to USB-C on the input side. The Lightning side and Lightning charging port would remain the same. Yes, I suspect Apple's charging bricks to someday all be USB-C. Maybe that happens this year for iPads. Probably that happens with iPhones.

However the charging port is going to remain Lightning as the ubiquity of those chargers makes this a near universal standard in most Apple's biggest markets.
 
they're not going to drop the lightning. if they were, they would have done it last year when they removed the headphone jack. now that they rolled out new headphones for the lightning, no way they'll move away from it a year later. it's their baby they created, you really think they'll move away from that you're fooled.

This is my thinking as well. Why would they have introduced lightning headphones and an adapter as the replacement for traditional headphones last year, and then get rid of that port this year? That would mean the last three iphones all require different headphones. I know that Apple is pushing wireless audio, but that seems like a ridiculous thing to do to people who still rely on wired headphones, to switch jacks twice in as many years.
 
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Supply and demand. Samsung is simply not able to produce enough OLED panels at the quality Apple demands. If Apple adopted OLED on all their phones they would sell far less than usual simply due to the fact that they wouldn't be able to produce enough panels to meet demand.

People keep bitching about all kinds of nonsense when it comes to Apple devices, how about people start spending some time in order to figure out how things actually work? Apple is selling more iPhone's than Samsung sells Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge. The quality of the AMOLED displays Samsung uses in their lower end models are not up to Apple standards in terms of brightness, uniformity and colour deviation.

In order for Apple to be able to utilise OLED in all their iPhone's, Samsung have to be able to produce over 100 million panels in no time and they are simply not up to the task. Especially when the need to produce for their own devices at the same time.

That's what people don't get when they complain about Apple not adopting XYZ feature. Apple can't simply slap it on and call it a day. They have to figure out how to manufacture it on a mass scale without sacrificing quality. Apple does this better than anyone when you think about the logistics involved in launching millions of devices in multiple countries. One only needs to look at the history of Google Nexus/Pixel phone launches to understand that it's not a simple thing.

If you would have done a poll last fall and asked people on here if Apple would ever drop every single port they've ever had on their Macbook pro lineup and just go with USB-C people would have unequivocally said NO. Now we have people sitting here saying the exact same thing again.

Although I think it was foolhardy for Apple to ONLY include USB-C in their laptops the fact is that they did it and its done. Macbooks and Macbook Pros only come with USB-C. The iMac SHOULD only come with USB-C moving forward but who knows we shall see. It would not be far fetched to think they would do the same now for the iPhone. For everyone who complains about having cables around with different standards etc. well this is Apple fixing that very issue. One connector to rule them all and it would be a welcome change to see them do that considering they already started it with their laptops. Increased functionality following the USB standard would greatly outweigh any downsides in the slightly larger connector.

They need to implement USB-C on everything they make moving forward. They started to rip the band-aid off with their laptops. Why not finish it and include USB-C on their phones moving forward as well?

The perhiperals you connect to a MBP/iMac is very different than what you connect to an iPhone. You're not connecting displays, ethernet, RAID storage to your iPhone.
 
Highly doubtful, why get rid of a proprietary product which is generating revenue for you and replace it with an industry standard which gets you no money.... However if they do it then whats the big deal USB C cables are super cheap, you can just replace all of your lightning cables easily.
 
The move to USB-C is the surprise. I don't think it'll happen. But if it does, it'll be odd.

1. End of MFi Program as you know it: if USB-C is adopted as the standard, Apple can no longer force vendors to subscribe / pay for MFI
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Not sure about that one. Apple would still have control of which devices would be on the "authorized" list, even if there is no authentication chip in the cable. Hell, the chip could be on the device end. And I bet you'd still want to know if a USB C cable is "certified" before plugging it into your $1000 iPhone (considering the uncertain history of USB-C cables).
 
USB-C is a standard.
USB-C has more pins than lightning.
USB-C is cheaper (doesn't have an expensive microcontroller/ram in it).
USB-C supports 100W.
One port for all Apple devices would be appealing.

  • Lightning is also a standard. And USB-C (for being a "standard") can cause a world of trouble.
  • More pins benefits Apple mobile device customers, how?
  • Cheaper doesn't mean anything when you're talking about a $700 phone
  • 100w, for charging a phone?
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How is USB-C more bulky?

Because it's bigger.
 
Lightning is better :( can't see why they would downgrade to a lesser more bulky standard... most apple users, have plenty of lightning cables lying around.

Sorry Lightning is NOT better. (Change is hard). USB C offers a sturdier connection, faster charging w/higher power output and faster data transmission. Apple wisely chose usb c for new mbps and iphones are the next step in harmonizing this ecosystem.
 
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USB C - awesome

Confirming that this thing is going to drop at $1000, killer.
I was assuming that logically the pricing was going to be:

7S: $650 - $850
7S+: $750 - $950
X: $850 - $1050

Which is still crap, but better than "from a thousand bucks"

Will start at $1,000 USD, and will sell every one assembled. Apple has taken control of the "above average income" sector. Like it or not it's Tim. :apple:
 
Good. USB-C is superior to Lightning. Oh no, I have to replace 4 lightning cables with USB-C, what ever will I do?? I'll spend like $25 and be done with it.
 
The control area at the bottom of the device could be similar to how the Touch Bar is used for Macbook Pro (e.g. Touch ID, other app-specific controls)
 
Before the iPhone 5 was released, the Verge had a leak of what Apple's next phone would look like.
It would get rid of the home button and be almost bezel free while the former home button being a gesture area.
http://www.theverge.com/2011/04/22/iphone-5-design

So whatever is released, it's been in development a long time. It's been in development with SJ involvement.

I also expect it be BE a teardrop design like the leak suggested.
Why?
Getting rid of the home button, people need a way to sense orientation easily without looking at their phone.
And it would probably require getting rid of the 3.5 headphone jack.
See how it all fit?
 
Why are you excluding the Chinese companies? They're the ones that show you CAN get a flagship phone for half the price of an iPhone!

The sad truth is said flagship phone at half price will run Android; the wear and tear on my nerves using Android would cause is well worth the other half of the price.

I'd really love for iOS to have usable competition, but google "I'm going to spam you with 200 useless notifications every time you turn on your phone but you'll have no idea where your battery went" Android isn't it.
 
I'm late to the comment party and haven't read through them all... but I'm a bit disappointed by this. OLED screens have inherent inconsistencies. Just look up "pink fade" for the Galaxy S6 and S7, Droid Turbo, etc. They can be beautiful, but I'd rather have realistic consistency. Curved OLED... whether true or not, this will be fodder for Samsung fans (which I am as well).

I also don't believe for a second that Apple will abandon the lightning port.
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Before the iPhone 5 was released, the Verge had a leak of what Apple's next phone would look like.
It would get rid of the home button and be almost bezel free while the former home button being a gesture area.
http://www.theverge.com/2011/04/22/iphone-5-design

So whatever is released, it's been in development a long time. It's been in development with SJ involvement.

I also expect it be BE a teardrop design like the leak suggested.
Why?
Getting rid of the home button, people need a way to sense orientation easily without looking at their phone.
And it would probably require getting rid of the 3.5 headphone jack.
See how it all fit?

Or it means that these leaks simply aren't true. :)
 
Lightning is better :( can't see why they would downgrade to a lesser more bulky standard... most apple users, have plenty of lightning cables lying around.
No idea what you are talking about... What exactly do you mean by 'bulky' in regards to USB-C? What about USB-C is 'lesser'?

USB-C for what? I use the iPhone Lightning for different devices. This also includes my HD HDMI beamer. It is a mature and fast interface.
A mature and fast interface? Lightning basically *IS* USB - just with a proprietary connector. There was literally little to no work on Apple's side on this "interface" except for an obfuscated handshake-routine, so Apple could lock out cable suppliers that did not want to pay a hideous licensing fee.

Can someone please tell me what advantages USB C has over lightning?
I can only speak for myself, but personally my life in tech and IT has been made A LOT easier by industry standards... Nobody remember the times, when literally ALL cell phones had different chargers and plugs? I am SO grateful, that these times are over.

Nowadays its only "Do you have a charger" or "Do you have an APPLE-charger, i can use?" - Thank you, industry standards!
 
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